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capnnoway

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25 mg d-bol ED
400 mg deca / week

routine:

every other workout : back and shoulders
every other workout: arms and chest

mon: back & shoulders
wed: arms and chest
fri: back & Shoulders
mon: arms & chest

and I do a easy/moderate leg workout MWF (I haven't worked them before so I'm bringing them in slowly)

most workouts last 2 hours, in a gym with no A/C

I figure the juice will help me with quick recovery, so I don't overtrain?

But man I feel like I want to explode, getting hot flashes all over my body and a lot of aggrevation built up... can't stop eating meat.

Any advice?
 
I think the rage is coming from your unworked legs. They want squats, straight leg deadlifts, and calf raises. They are pissed! My advice would be to cut out the bullshit of working the entire upper body twice a week, start doing each part once, and throwing in an INTENSE (not an afterthought, or 'slowly bringing them in) leg workout. Trust me, do some serious squats, straight leg deads, good morning etc, and you won't be able to do each body part more than once a week. You'll grow more too!

As for the cycle, it doesn't look outrageous, or bad. A lot of the 'rage' is in peoples heads. But if you are prone to be pissed of easily without gear, that might make it a tiny bit worse, or you might use it as an excuse for 'letting it out'. I wouldn't worry about the meat thing though, thats a good thing! Good luck with the cycle. :)
 
Is it just me or does his routine suck?

Jesus man, figure out how to train properly before you use steroids.

2 hours of arms/chest 3 days a week? What the fuck! :confused:
 
It is certainly not just you. His routine does in fact suck. I tried my best to say it in a nice way, but now that someone has been honest... :D

LOL, seriously, I have a strong feeling his routine is a bunch of cables, machines, and smith machines. Even if it's not, damn, 2 hours of upper body, each part twice a week! YIKES! My favorite part "slowly bringing the legs in" translation: "I do curls in the squat rack, does that count?"

Ok, now that I got being a dick out of the way, I would like to see what exercises you do, and what is taking two hours. Bro, we need to help you come up with a new routine. Trust me, you'll grow more for it.
 
capnnoway said:
25 mg d-bol ED
400 mg deca / week

routine:

every other workout : back and shoulders
every other workout: arms and chest

mon: back & shoulders
wed: arms and chest
fri: back & Shoulders
mon: arms & chest

and I do a easy/moderate leg workout MWF (I haven't worked them before so I'm bringing them in slowly)

most workouts last 2 hours, in a gym with no A/C

I figure the juice will help me with quick recovery, so I don't overtrain?

But man I feel like I want to explode, getting hot flashes all over my body and a lot of aggrevation built up... can't stop eating meat.

Any advice?
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bwahahahaha! that is the worst routine in history!
 
OK Guys thanks for giving it to me straight!
Trust me, I can take it as well as give it out.

For your info, I got some of ideas from Arnold S. who also used primarily D-bol... HA HA.... he used to work chest at EVERY workout... read his book!

FYI - a gym with no A/C also doesn't have a lot of money for fancy pussy machines... I work all free weights and all VERY freakin HEAVY... I do forced reps at every workout.

BTW, I'm growing like a weed!

You guys have to remember that juice makes your recovery faster. Your body can take more. When I'm not on juice, I would never work a body part more than once a week.

Here's a drastically different routine:
M - arms and chest
W - legs
F - back and shoulders

Wow, I've never seen that one before.

And to the dude who says he uses the same routine as me,,, good for you, everyone is different and has different goals.

Me, I don't have large legs, but they are already very muscular from years of cardio workouts. I have no desire to be frogman, I just want to keep my legs in perspective with the rest of my body.

Don't flame a guy on d-bol!!! :D
 
btw, what takes me so long is I can't get enough!!!
i do about 6-8 sets of every excersice and my muscles are still screaming and bEGGing for MORE MORE MORE abuse and punishment... of course the next day I feel it... which is exactly what I am after....

I only know one way to lift --- HEAVY... don't waste the juice when you are one it, use it!!! PUSH IT HARD!


I do flat bench, incline bench with a bar and with dumb bells, pec dec machine, pull overs, tricep push downs, standing curls, seated one arm curls, standing 1 arm curls, 120 sit ups and leg raises, forearm curls, reverse forearm curls
that's just on arm and chest DAY!

GO HEAVY OR GO HOME!
 
Is it just me or does his routine suck?

Jesus man, figure out how to train properly before you use steroids.

2 hours of arms/chest 3 days a week? What the fuck!
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Ya, I'll learn a lot from people like you... great info like that: "his routine sucks".

That helped me learn a lot. Thanks!



There are people like me because of people like you.
 
Cap, Sounds like a good routine as long as you push it like you say your doing. As for the legs, I have "not so desirable" legs. I had to take it easy with them also first starting out. Stay with it. Also check on the training forum. You might find some good info there. Peace.
 
capnnoway said:


Ya, I'll learn a lot from people like you... great info like that: "his routine sucks".

That helped me learn a lot. Thanks!



There are people like me because of people like you.
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Sorry but I tell it like it is. You have no idea of what you are doing, simple as that.
 
You have to work the legs at least once a week. I went from cramming in bi's / tri's 2x's a week to 1 hard workout bastards grew alot. My .02 would be to just work each body part once a week and add some cardio. But thats just my opion, good luck.

Snuff
 
Sorry but I tell it like it is. You have no idea of what you are doing, simple as that.
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I have been lifting for over 12 years... I have read as much as anyone about excerise and training. I have tried lots of different routines.

I suppose YOU would have told Arnold who worked his chest 3 times a week, that he had no idea what he was doing!

I respect your knowledge dude, i just wish you would share more of it instead of just giving quick critisisms that are not helpful.

Its sad that guys with a handful of posts are trying harder to offer helpful advice.
 
yep

"I respect your knowledge dude, i just wish you would share more of it instead of just giving quick critisisms that are not helpful.
"

I know what you mean. Everyone is a newbie at one time. I would throw in a hardcore leg day once a week in there. Check your PM.
 
There are people like me because of people like you.
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VERY well said capn. I notice that men are too often very quick to attack the routine of another man, but not ever mention any suggestions. Only, that sucks, etc.

A good point is made however that learning a proper routine should come before using AAS, long before actually. Learn how to build muscle naturaly before using AAS.

But you are "on" now so here is a very basic, but good beginning routine.

Day 1: Chest, triceps, sholders.
Day 2: Rear delts, back, biceps
Day 3: legs, abs.
Day 4: rest

Stop with the high volume training. No more then 4 work sets TOTAL for large muscles (pecs, back, legs), and no more then 3 sets total for small ones (bis, tris, sholders, abs). Stay with mass building basic sorts of moves, flat benches, squats, rows, pullups/downs, etc.)
All work sets to absoulute failure. Perhaps add even 2 rest/pause reps after each set. (go to failure, rest 5-10 seconds and do one more rep, repeat) Train like this and you will grow.

Remember this capn, train like it is a
sprint, very hard but very short workout.

Eat a least 2 grams of protein for every pound of LBM. Eat at least 25 calories for every pound of bw. This is rather general and basic, but it is a start (and i dont feel like writing a book :D)

This method works. I am a woman and i have build about 35-40 pounds of muscle over the last 15 years training like this.

mazzel (good luck)
 
Thanks a lot for your help.
Everything you are saying is true and I appreciate it.

I've always trained more on-the-fly, listening carefully to what my body is trying to tell me.

I realize that I made a mistake this cycle. I worked out for 2 months naturally, before hitting the juice, cuz I was anxious to buff up for the summer. I could have used another 2 months naturally... BUT without DECA to kill my elbow pain, I can NOT lift heavy and sometimes not at all... so I started the cycle.

Basically its giving me a great kick off as opposed to taking me beyond a plateau.

I think your split is a good layout... but I need a couple more weeks pushing the current routine.
I'm a big believer in variety, I think its better to change your workout splits often than to stick with the same one for years.

I know you're right about shorter work outs, and when you're not ON you CAN'T go more than an hour. I'm no expert but I do know that juice means you can do more sets, this is one of the ways it allows you to push past plateaus.

My training is more "old school" from the "over training" days of Arnold S., It may be wrong, but it produced some great results!

Thanks for the support!
 
Looks like the Almighty is gettin' a little taster of he's own medicine. Good one cappnoway!!!

Looks like Almighty can dish it out but cant not take the dishing back. Ouch!

Muscular Warrior
 
Thanks guys.

The Almighty is very knowledgable, we just need to get him to share some of that knowledge:

"constructive" critism is the key

:mexican:
 
MuscularWarrier said:
Looks like the Almighty is gettin' a little taster of he's own medicine. Good one cappnoway!!!

Looks like Almighty can dish it out but cant not take the dishing back. Ouch!

Muscular Warrior
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Dude seriously, learn the fuckin english language before you try and insult me...either that or keep sending me bar karma calling me a "nigger."

capnnoway, look bro I didnt mean to be short with you. When I saw your routine I obviously figured you for some 15 year old who is only interested in the "show muscles."

Anyway, Im sure you know that working legs is imperative for overall growth.

Also, Arnold was pretty much a genetic freak, which allowed him to do what we would consider "overtraining" yet still make gains year after year. You have to find what routine works best for you, not what routine worked best for arnold. If that routine does indeed work for ya, then more power to you.
 
capnnoway, look bro I didnt mean to be short with you. When I saw your routine I obviously figured you for some 15 year old who is only interested in the "show muscles."
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No problem bro. We can all be short sometimes with the cycles we are putting our bodies through.
I'm 33 and work very hard on my body.

Ya, I know legs are important, which is why this time I'm going to start working them. But I didn't want to just go balls to the wall on the first week with my legs.
I'm one of those guys (there are a lot of us) that don't really love doing leg work, but I'm going to have to learn.

If you've got big legs, you got my respect I know it takes pushing a lot of weight. I hope to be there some day with ya.

HERE IS MY REAL QUESTION, all i really wanted to know:
Does using juice make over training "less" of a concern???

maybe I should start that as a new thread?
 
MuscularWarrier said:
I dont do ROIDS but my friends Godfather died of a D-Bol overdose man. I'd stay well away from that shit dude.

Muscular Warrior
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You are such a faggot. You continue to post under this misspelled name and how you don't do roids and how you know someone who died of a "D-bol overdose"

When will you just die?
 
"My legs are muscular from years of cardio"

hahahahahahahaaa, just read that one good stuff buddy keep running on that treadmilll.

Oh and throw in one more arms and chest day
 
I really dont care who you want to look like.

Just dont make stupid comments like that and you wont get stupid answers from me or anyone else.

Do a little research before you make a post like that one.
 
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