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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

Ok JB hang in there.

MrMak The green tea and Glucorell R prevent the spike as Dr Macro pointed out around page 1432 of this thread. The spike would be small anyways since we are recommending fruit (bananas) which is low GI.


young guns If you add it all up the Thermorexin is cheaper than NYC. Not only does NYC have half the pills but you have to take 2 for every one Thermorexin. And even at that it's still not as potent.
 
Well, got my shipment over lunch. Both my wife and I popped one each with lunch and some moderate carbs. This was about an 1-1/2 hours ago. Was tired when I took it, but I seem to have woken up a bit. Felt unusually chatty (to the point of being goofy) at work about 45 minutes after taking. Got a few chills and now I'm starting to heat up a bit... I'll call my wife after awhile and see how she's doing ...

Interesting so far ...
 
ulter said:
Ok JB hang in there.

MrMak The green tea and Glucorell R prevent the spike as Dr Macro pointed out around page 1432 of this thread. The spike would be small anyways since we are recommending fruit (bananas) which is low GI.


young guns If you add it all up the Thermorexin is cheaper than NYC. Not only does NYC have half the pills but you have to take 2 for every one Thermorexin. And even at that it's still not as potent.


well in comparison of how i feel from the first 2 pills (taken 5 hrs apart), i feel no different than 1 pill of nyc makes me feel, although the nyc does seem to wear off a little sooner. so that puts them about even cost wise for me at least.

macro, i'll give the fruit a try then. you seem to recommending banana's, but wouldn't an apple be a better choice as it's a little lower GI and would have a little more fiber in it?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
YG,

fruits are not insulogenic and their specific ability to restore liver glycogen enhances fat burning


Why is it everyone recommends not eating Fructose when dieting?
 
Paulos said:



Why is it everyone recommends not eating Fructose when dieting?

because Mr. X was said fructose cause only relenishes the liver and doesn't work well with getting into muscle cells.....some shit like that
 
well i noticed the appetie supression now that i've eaten some carbs. 1cup nonfat milk with a banana, two scoops of protein and one apple at 7am and one can tuna with two slices of whole wheat bread at 1pm. i eat more frequently than this. one negative thing that i noticed though is that i feel bloated. not sure if this is from the TRex or something else.
 
macrophage69alpha said:


because fructose, IN EXCESS, also does not require insulin to be stored as fat..

The liver can hold 50g of fructose...after that it gets converted directly to triglycerides........i.e. FAT.

And I disagree about the no-fructose while dieting. A certain level of liver fructose is VERY much necessary for optimal T4-T3 conversion in the liver.

Fonz
 
ulter said:
DJ, Thanks for adding the carbs. One thing that lots of people are reporting is that once they eat the carbs the appy suppression kicks in, like with you, but they also report feeling "full" with much less food at a given sitting. This may be what you are describing as "bloated"?

im not sure really. i just feel bloated- i was on a very low carb diet and i think that the milk made me feel bloated. not sure though. either way, im still losing inches off the waist so im not complaining :)
 
OK guys, here is an interesting (I think) observation from me. I stopped taking the TREX 2 days ago (waiting for my real order to get here). I STILL have a tremendous feeling of well being and MUCH better energy then I did when I started the tREX. Is this just a coincidence? It is so pronounced, that I can't believe it is unrelated. Macro... am I goign nuts?
 
doesnt this stuff smell like dog food? maybe its because on of mine broke open in the bottle lol
 
oh ya im on my secound week up too six a day and down 10lbs doing pretty good like the energy oh ya im only doing 15mins of cardio a week.
 
coupon??

How do we go about getting the T-rex coupon?
I am using it now at 2x3/day and it is kicking my a** when I try to go to sleep but I lost lots of water and fat the first 10 days ( ~10 pounds) I am also doing cardio everyday (moderate for 30 minutes every other day and HIIT every other day...and still lifting) so tremendous amount of energy--what a great product--although with my really low carb diet I am not getting the appetite suppression---Dougie K
 
Re: coupon??

wantmoresize said:
How do we go about getting the T-rex coupon?
I am using it now at 2x3/day and it is kicking my a** when I try to go to sleep but I lost lots of water and fat the first 10 days ( ~10 pounds) I am also doing cardio everyday (moderate for 30 minutes every other day and HIIT every other day...and still lifting) so tremendous amount of energy--what a great product--although with my really low carb diet I am not getting the appetite suppression---Dougie K

the current introductory price is actually lower than the coupon price.. (though only by 3-4$)
 
WelshInjectable said:
Ulter - Do you bother with a ramp down at that low dose or is there no need. How long do you stay on that dose?
Thanks for the reply.

I just run 20mcg for 6 weeks on and then off for 6 weeks, without ramping. You can use it longer though. It just never takes me longer than that to get to where I want to be.
 
been on t-rex for the past 2 weeks and so far i have lost around 8-10 pounds (mostly water) im taking 3 caps a day. 2 before workout and one in the middle of the day.

i've noticed more cuts on me specially on the areas i have applied yohimburnDF on. i apply the DF 5 times a week once or twice a day :p
 
jellybean1 said:
am I the ONLY one who isnt losing weight on T-REX?????

I think so.
Would you email me please with your full diet and routine so we can go over what you're doing. We need to find an answer for you because it's unlikely that someone could increase their MR and not lose weight. If the Thermorexin is working, and from what you've posted it is, then something else is missing.

[email protected]
 
Before 6:30 pm workout

I was going to take it at like 6. This will be the first time I dot, you guys think I will have a problem taking it late in the day?
 
OK. Here's a question -- will t-rex, taken in an environment that is not in a calorie defecit, shift body composition favorably?

In other words, even if i don't loose scale weight because I keep calories to maintenance or above (but clean), will bodyfat still drop? And how well will it work in this environment?
 
well ,im on day 5 of thermorexin,taking 6 pills a day,my diet suck yesterday so right now im at 194,i was 191 so thats my fault,i get great energy,it is suppressing my appetite and im finally getting that burning sensation today in my abs,ill keep u guys posted,also,i get no headaches and only feel nautious in the morning
 
Machine - I'm on the IDC diet (I Don't Care) right now, and I noticed that T-Rexx helps be focus and get better energy. I'll keep this thread posted on weight loss, but its a little too early for me to post definative results (it will be 3 or 4 more weeks). I'll prolly continue the IDC diet for another 2 weeks, then clean up a lot on the diet in week 3 and 4.
 
That's cool -- an "IDC" diet may be a bit unpredictable though in terms of caloric intake, nutrient partitioning, frequency, etc...

I want to know how it will act in a controlled maintenance-level clean diet, specifically in terms of bodyfat reduction ...

But do keep me posted..
 
5th day on T-rex - Doses went 2,3,4,6, only taken the two so far this morning.
Had a shit sleep last night. 6 ED got me well hyper, went to work and couldnt stop talking and smiling. WIRED:D
SIX again today then,woohoo.
 
okay i gotta ask......ppl are always saying how much they are sweating, alertness and energy. here's my question, why aren;t I experioencing any of these. I took my first one on friday, and didn't feel anything different. up to 6 a day now, and as god is my witness I cannot fell anything different, no sweats, or sense of well being. what gives?
 
Got my bottle of Thermorexin and Yohimburn in yesterday and started both this morning. I took 1 cap of T-rex about 30 minutes before my morning 0-carb protein shake (i'm on CKD, so no carbs). I was hesitant only to start with one cap because I drink speed stacks like water!:D BUT, here it is 2 hours later and I feel great, got the heat waves/chills. So far, so good!

I was also worried about the upset stomach, but that didn't happen!

Brian
 
bloatboy35 said:
okay i gotta ask......ppl are always saying how much they are sweating, alertness and energy. here's my question, why aren;t I experioencing any of these. I took my first one on friday, and didn't feel anything different. up to 6 a day now, and as god is my witness I cannot fell anything different, no sweats, or sense of well being. what gives?

are you on a lowcarb diet?
 
Bloatboy, if you aren't eating enough carbs it won't heat you up. Most people need 200gr/day but many feel it on much less. If you don't fell the jolt or clearity from it that's not going to prevent it from working for you. Some people simply don't react to stimulants or thermo's that way. Each capsule has the same caffeine at a grande Starbucks. Anyone who has had their coffee would shake their head in disbelief if you told them you drink 6 and don't fell anything. And that's just one of the weaker ingredients in THERMOREXIN. But it happens.
You bought the THERMOREXIN to lose fat. THAT'S how you should measure it's effectiveness for you. Are you taking more trips to the bathroom every day? Is your belt getting looser? Is the scale moving? These are more important than "Do you feel the jolt?"
At 6/day, BTW I envy you being able to do that, you should do great with it.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
OK. Here's a question -- will t-rex, taken in an environment that is not in a calorie defecit, shift body composition favorably?

In other words, even if i don't loose scale weight because I keep calories to maintenance or above (but clean), will bodyfat still drop? And how well will it work in this environment?


?????
 
for those taking 6 a day.. increased water intake is advised.. with respect to some sides tiredness, lack of heat, etc also are often due to dehydration

....so... drink water :p
 
Taking a total of 6 per day.
2 pills at 6 am, noon and 5pm

Eating more carbs, but not feeling heat or chills at this point, which is just fine by me as long as I'm still losing. I do find myself getting hungry after taking it, even though I take it with carbs each time. Sometime I'm RAVISHED 30mins-1HR after a meal. Why me?

Oh yeah, drinking 90oz water per day. Hope that's enough!

Anyway, the scale has maintained but I'm losing in the "pants-o-meter" department. As in, my pants are fitting better.

Btw, I took 2 at 8pm last night and was able to sleep like a baby at 10pm.
:o
 
kira9 said:

Btw, I took 2 at 8pm last night and was able to sleep like a baby at 10pm.
:o

I'm the same way. I don't get the appetite supression or the inability to sleep but I do look better and my belt is looser. Its strange to see how diferent people expirience diferent things. I out to look pretty good by the end of the bottle. (god I hope it doen't take that long).
 
macrophage69alpha said:
for those taking 6 a day.. increased water intake is advised.. with respect to some sides tiredness, lack of heat, etc also are often due to dehydration

....so... drink water :p

MP, it was 93F here today.....blast furnace. :)

I have to limit T-rex to 6PM(3 caps)(78F)....and NYC to AM(7AM), b/c last time I did 6 caps in one day....I think I drank 3 entire gallons of water....lol

I do not know what the heck I'm going to do when I run out of NYC........EKKKK!!!

I probably have the last couple of bottles(2)(The original not the NYC+)

Nootropic......... :) :) :) Come on....... :) LOL

Fonz
 
Grrr...look what happens when I don't use my account in over 2 months...LOL...back to 1 post...

Anyhoo...

I just ordered my first bottle of T-rex and I'm excited...

However, let's all remember something, and I want to state this because I don't think macro and utler have stated this enough--the key to losing weight is making sure your diet is on...if you can't figure out why you can't drop weight, it's probably because you're not eating enough.

Spinning this off as an appetite suppressant is a bad thing IMO, at least to those bodybuilders working on a show or for those people who are very knowledgable about dieting. Eating less will get you nowhere...and this needs to be acknowledged by those who market this product.

Just my $0.02...

nav...you're body isn't f****...you just need to bring the number of meals up per day, keep them small, watch your carbs, taper them down towards the evening, and depending on your bodytype (ecto, meso, endo), you can then see where you're at...

Dieting really isn't rocket science...

supernav said:
My body is fucked. I could eat nothing all week and still not lose a lb. :(

-= nav =-
 
BZ,

there is some definite truth to what you say. however for most people the BIGGEST problem with losing fat is CRAVING, BINGING and OVEREATING. so appetite suppression can be quite important.

and its not that you cannot eat.. just that you dont have too.. it provides a measure of control over both appetite and eating.. an amount of control that can make the difference in a SUCCESSFUL diet.

JMHO
 
I agree with that macro, but people don't need to "suppress" their appetite. They need to learn how to "express"...:)...their appetite.

Craving, binging, and overeating is a result of, often times, bad habits that are formed. OR, as is often the case with dieting bodybuilders, their bodies are telling them something...(need more carbs, etc...)

Suppression does nothing but lower your metabolism. Sure, supplementation of a thermogenic can help prevent this, but everyone needs to know the basics of dieting first.

And "expression" is more important than "suppression"...

I think we're going to end up arguing semantics here...:D

Hey whatever...:fro:...I'm getting t-rex in a couple days. I'll probably post my results (and I know a fellow board member is going to as well) on our home board...I'll provide the link when I do...

macrophage69alpha said:
BZ,

there is some definite truth to what you say. however for most people the BIGGEST problem with losing fat is CRAVING, BINGING and OVEREATING. so appetite suppression can be quite important.

and its not that you cannot eat.. just that you dont have too.. it provides a measure of control over both appetite and eating.. an amount of control that can make the difference in a SUCCESSFUL diet.

JMHO
 
6 Days and Im not ripped to shreds.......BOOOOOOOO!:D
Haha, How are you guys doing on a zero carb diet?
Ive lost the water but havnt weighed at all, Id rather do this seeing the change in the mirror, after all I wanna look better not weigh better. Might weigh half way through my cutting in about 2 weeks, then 6 later to get a better picture.
 
my girlfriends been takin 1 tab a day before workouts. she's down 4.5lbs, not bad, she has a hard time loosein weight. been like 2 or 3 weeks now. just thought id update.
 
alright i just got my bottle today and have a couple of questions about.....
iam on the ckd diet right now,(under 20 carbs sucks:) but should i stay on this or can i get off of it and take THERMOREXIN? or does it work better while your dieting?
i dont want to take 10 a day i just want to start off low, so the first day i should only take 1 right? than what is it two a day? what time do you guys take them? i work 8-5 than get home and i work out so whats the best time to take them? thanks
-matt
 
well guys,i have to tell ya,i am going off of thermorexin!im tired of the insomnia,icant fukin sleep!other then the appetite supression,it dont work much better then any other eca stack and in my opinion xenadrine works a lot better!i actually think thermorexin is preventing me from losing weight!if i could get my money back for this id be very interested since i wasnt impressed with it.
 
thewood,

well 6 caps a day is probably too much if you have insomnia. what time are you taking your last dose?

perhaps you need to cut back and take your last dose earlier..

sure that AF will take care of you if you decide otherwise..
 
well im probably taking it it too soon to the time that i go to bed,thats what is causing the insomina,but thats not the reason im stopping,if i was losing fat with it ,id take it and not care bout the insomnia,im just not losing fat!ever since i started it ,my fat loss had seemed to come to a stop!this stuff is great for some people ,just not 4 me,how do i go about getting my money back,ive only been takin it a week so theres a lot left
 
email [email protected]

however given your earlier post on the matter just 2 days ago:
thewood said:
well ,im on day 5 of thermorexin,taking 6 pills a day,my diet suck yesterday so right now im at 194,i was 191 so thats my fault,i get great energy,it is suppressing my appetite and im finally getting that burning sensation today in my abs,ill keep u guys posted,also,i get no headaches and only feel nautious in the morning

and the fact that you have only been on it barely a week, actuall less than, you might want to consider that its not necessarily not working for you and that you should give it some more time.. JMHO
 
i've been takin 2 a day for almost a week now. so i thought it'd be time to up the dose, since i wasn't feelin a whole lot from it (was actually thinkin about switchin back to NYC - and mind you i only took 2 a day with that, every once and a while i'd take a third). btw, i never took NYC or take T-rex before a workout. I just worry about my BP being too high when I'd bustin my ass in the gym. I checked it when resting while on NYC and it was fine. Was 126/82 40 min after taking vs. 123/74 before i took it. and i never had chest pounding or real rapid heart rate.

anyway, i took 1 t-rex at 10:15, with my breakfast - oatmeal, turkey, r-ala. decided to take another at 1:00 with my protein shake, flax oil, green tea cap and 500mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine. Then, brilliant me takes another at 4:00 with my lunch - tuna, mayo, and GLA. I checked my BP around 6:00, and it was 142/83. I wasn't likin that. Pulse was 97. Then pre-workout, after knowing my BP and HR were elevated, I ignorantly took another 500mg AlCar and green tea. Well, needless to say, during my workout, my heart was pounding fast and hard the whole time. i don't even wanna know what my BP was. I checked my pulse and it was around 140 between sets.

So I will drop back down to 2 a day, making sure to give time for a dose to clear out before adding more on top of it. Plus I'm gonna have to monitor BP and make sure it's not up all the time. It may be back to NYC for me.

i forgot to mention the insane sweating and the headache that accompanied the above.
 
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thewood said:
well guys,i have to tell ya,i am going off of thermorexin!im tired of the insomnia,icant fukin sleep!other then the appetite supression,it dont work much better then any other eca stack and in my opinion xenadrine works a lot better!i actually think thermorexin is preventing me from losing weight!if i could get my money back for this id be very interested since i wasnt impressed with it.

Hey bro that's no problem at all. Just email [email protected] and tell them you've got insomnia. That's not a good fit for Thermorexin and something weaker or shorter acting is probably better for you.
 
Young Guns, You're taking too many other stimulants with it. You have to drop the green tea bro. Thermorexin is fine without it. And you should do much better on less. Forget about "feeling" it. You will get used to it no matter what but it's not going to work any less. Just stay with 2 for another week and then go to 3 or maybe 2 1/2. That works good for me, taking 1/2 rather than a whole cap just prior to training. Just open the cap and put half on a spoon or something until the next day.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
YJ,

the addition of the extra green tea may be partly to blame (both from a caffiene and an increased C'amp)

Like I said I'm gonna cut back to 2 a day, spaced about 5 hrs apart, and monitor BP for a few days and make sure all is in check before I decide whether I'll go off it. I guess my experience just goes to show that it was definitely doing something. Might have been that I was used to the stimulatory feeling and warmth due to being on NYC for awhile, so maybe that's why I didn;'t think I was feelin much from it.
 
and as always

SUFFICIENT WATER INTAKE

typically this is 1 gal per 44kg (100lbs) of mass/ day

so 200lbs 2gal min

obviously with high protien intake and high fatfree mass you may need more... ie if you are 5'6 180 lean.. you probably need as much or more than a 6' 200lb'er
 
tinymm said:
alright i just got my bottle today and have a couple of questions about.....
iam on the ckd diet right now,(under 20 carbs sucks:) but should i stay on this or can i get off of it and take THERMOREXIN? or does it work better while your dieting?
i dont want to take 10 a day i just want to start off low, so the first day i should only take 1 right? than what is it two a day? what time do you guys take them? i work 8-5 than get home and i work out so whats the best time to take them? thanks
-matt
 
tinymm said:
alright i just got my bottle today and have a couple of questions about.....
iam on the ckd diet right now,(under 20 carbs sucks:) but should i stay on this or can i get off of it and take THERMOREXIN? either way or does it work better while your dieting?yes, it does work better when dieting, but ckd is not the only kind of diet.. if you want to up the carbs just add GlucorellR (r+ lipoic).. to get CKD like fat loss with a moderate to high carb diet (since the whole basis for CKD is plasma insulin reduction.. what glucorellR does)
i dont want to take 10 a day i just want to start off low, so the first day i should only take 1 right? than what is it two a day?yes start with 1-2 per day, spaced out what time do you guys take them? i work 8-5 than get home and i work out so whats the best time to take them?take first one in the am with food to see how you respond.. when it wears off or if you feel fine take another.. 1 to 1.5hr before workout seems to be ideal for most thanks
-matt
 
tinymm
You will never get to 10/day. Yes just start with one when you get up in the morning. We don't like CKD diets because if you're weight training you either eat the carbs or your training will suffer. CKD is great for aerobic instructors but not weight lifters. Yes you should diet with it. It's a diet pill. But watch calories and fats not carbs. You should also consider Glucorell R with your carb meals.
 
so let me get this stright, i should diet while on this, but a diet thats less fat and cals? i can eat carbs with this? so lets say i start tomorrow, i could take it in the morning with food and than should i take another that day or not? and if so what time? if i take one at 9am when should i take another? sorry for all the questions i just want to make sure i get the best results...
thanks
-matt
 
You're getting anal about it. It's not that hard bro. You don't have and certainly I don't have the answers for all your questions.
You won't know when to take a 2nd one until you see your reaction to the first one. You haven't talked at all about your training. Are you doing cardio in the morning? I am guessing not.
So, tomorrow eat a banana. Don't have a banana? They have them at 7-11. After the banana take the THERMOREXIN. If you think you can handle another one then try it about 1PM. See how you feel and report back here. I don't know what your diet is so it's hard to say how you should change it. Stay away from fat junk and don't eat more than 12 times your weight in calories.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
as far as your BP issues..

some things that may help..

reduce sodium
increase pottasium and magnesium

bananas are a nice fruit choice

macrophage69alpha said:
and as always

SUFFICIENT WATER INTAKE

typically this is 1 gal per 44kg (100lbs) of mass/ day

so 200lbs 2gal min

obviously with high protien intake and high fatfree mass you may need more... ie if you are 5'6 180 lean.. you probably need as much or more than a 6' 200lb'er


thanks for the help macro. my sodium has been a little higher lately so i'll leave it out whenever i can. sodium content is about the only bad thing about canned tuna/chicken, as well as deli turkey breast.

as far as water, i drink at least 2 gallons a day, not counting what I add to any protein shakes. and the water intake is spread throughout the day.
 
I may have skipped over it in the 5345345 responses to this post, but Ulter or Macro what ratio's (30/30/30, etc...) would you recommend for nutrient intake while taking thermorexin....
I'll be taking 1 Glucroell r pill with any meal that has carbs in it on top of whatever thermorexin dose I am on... ;) I can't wait to start up on this, hopefully it'll be a dream come true for me: I have major trouble losing belly fat, even when dieting hard and training hard... :bawling:

YUM
 
Well I had to try 2 trex on an empty stomach didnt I.

ALMOST spewed em back um 10 mins later. Whats in them that causes that out of interest. Feelin went away with a banana. I think Ulter or Mac, you posted to eat a banana if u felt sick.
Thanks to you Im not cleaning my kitchen floor:D
 
LBM

ulter said:
That's me too. I have stopped at -16 pounds but I keep losing more fat. I am cycling though so I may just be adding LBM.


What kind of diet are you trying? Will T-Rex work with a Ketogenic type diet? I just started taking T-Rex Tuesday, all is well so far 1 tab 3x a day. No problems. I will start my keto diet in 2 weeks or would you recommend something different.
 
I think some of you are expecting miracles out of this pill.
i mean, damm, 1000mgs a week of test wont even make you grow worth a fuk if your diet and workout isnt in check.

as for doses, you really need to experiment for yourself, and see how your body responds. my girlfriend was up to 4 a day, with no sick feelings, but got head aches. a banana, and lower dose took care of that.
 
Just an update here--

First of all..thanks Ulter for your help....you got me really thinking hard about my diet....so now its more and more research for me...however

I am up to 5 a day ...2 in the morning before cardio...2 after lunch and then one more before my evening workout....I can now take the two in the morning without food and without puking, so I must be getting used to them.

After the fifth pill I had an awesome workout and was VERY pleased...so maybe thats my magic number...*keeping my fingers crossed here*
 
I hate bananas. :)

(Just adding some comic relief to this long, long post...lol)

Fonz
 
ToxicTower said:



What kind of diet are you trying? Will T-Rex work with a Ketogenic type diet? I just started taking T-Rex Tuesday, all is well so far 1 tab 3x a day. No problems. I will start my keto diet in 2 weeks or would you recommend something different.

I am eating my normal diet diet. 2400 calories and low fat. Glucorell R with 150gr of carbs a day.



Fonz said:
I hate bananas. :)

(Just adding some comic relief to this long, long post...lol)

Fonz

Peaches.


JB1, Thanks for posting again. Put up your results as you go so we can see how you're doing.
 
ulter said:


I am eating my normal diet diet. 2400 calories and low fat. Glucorell R with 150gr of carbs a day.

Thanks Ulter
I will be only taking in about 20g of carbs a day though. My reason for the Thermorexin is to suppress the appetite and boost metabolism.
I'll keep you posted on the results. I am also taking Didrex as well as some other things.
 
OK.. I'm going to incorporate this into my cutting cycle..
So far it looks like

UCP-1 2 weeks on 2 off
t3 small taper up ...120mcgs right now.. Long taper towards the end
600mgs eq right now to get the concentration up to max levels
then
Prop/eq/tren combo (testing new product from UG lab)

So I'm thinking to add Thermorexin on my "Off 2 weeks " period.

Started at 280lbs
260lbs right now...
goal is 240

Way too many see food bulking cycles and Staying on year round, Plus a few down times on some serious injuries!
I was just getting fat..LOL
Back to a very strict diet
 
I have anxiety and stimulants make me feel shitty. I used to take 1 pill of Xenadrine at a time with no problems. Would this stuff fuck with my anxiety? I'd really like to try it.
 
ulter said:
Young Guns, You're taking too many other stimulants with it. You have to drop the green tea bro. Thermorexin is fine without it. And you should do much better on less. Forget about "feeling" it. You will get used to it no matter what but it's not going to work any less. Just stay with 2 for another week and then go to 3 or maybe 2 1/2. That works good for me, taking 1/2 rather than a whole cap just prior to training. Just open the cap and put half on a spoon or something until the next day.

thanks for the advice. i took only two today, spaced about 5 hrs apart, with no other supps with it. felt much much better today.
 
hardrock said:
I have anxiety and stimulants make me feel shitty. I used to take 1 pill of Xenadrine at a time with no problems. Would this stuff fuck with my anxiety? I'd really like to try it.
If you suffer from anxiety you might not want to use it. Xenadrine is baby food compared to this.
 
Im going back down to 5 a day, Not bein able to sleep sucks.
BTW - Last 2 caps were at 3pm, dunno how the hell you guys are takin at 8pm and still sleepin.:(
 
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