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Day 3 on THERMOREXIN

ulter said:
It's $12 and that's a flat rate for Royal Mail up to 2 kilos.

First class Royal Mail delivery for such items is no more than $2.5...

What's the point of having it shipped from the UK if we are paying almost the same price as an international delivery charge?

DiscountALA ships his big ALA/CLA bottles for 1.5 pounds (first class).
 
OXANDRIN said:



Fonz, how do you rate this stuff? 1-10 (DNP being a 10)

IN regards to ANORECTIC AND THERMOGENIC behaviour.

(From 1-10)

DNP: Thermopgenic: 10 Anorectic: 0

Clen: Thermogenic: 4 Anorectic: 7

NYC: thermogenic: 5 ANorectic 8

Thermorexin: 6 Anorectic 9

T3: Thermogenic: 7 ANorectic: 0



But in regards to thermorexin there is a zone you really don't want to go to..........(i.e. me) took 3 and had the worst god awful headaches ever.

So, take 2 tabs 1X at a time 2 times/day...and if you're superman 2 tabs 3X/day.

Fonz
 
rippedup,

royal mail prices

For First Class items over 1kg, postage is £3.67 plus 89p for each extra 250g.

* Items heavier than 750g cannot be sent Second Class. A Proof of Delivery certificate, which shows the recipients detail, costs an additional £2.20.


2kg= 3.56 + 3.67 = £7.13

pretty sure that delivery certificate is also required which means COST is £9.33

guessing that because shipping is done by the distributor in England.. shipping has to be a flat rate.. probably at least partly as calcs cannot be done by US software...

so if ordering from the EU store.. price is same for shipping regardless of size of order.. (so larger orders are better.. though essentially same goes for US UPS orders.. the largest cost is for the first 1lb)

btw- # taken from http://www.royalmail.com
 
From Royal Mail.

Recorded Signed for

All Recorded mail costs just 64p plus the standard first or second class postage.


Weight up to First Class Second Class Weight up to
First Class Second Class
60g 28p 20p
100g 42p 34p
150g 60p 46p
200g 75p 56p
250g 88p 69p
300g £1.01 80p
350g £1.15 91p
400g £1.37 £1.10
 
rippedup,

its late... but here goes...
for UK (from EU store)
its 12$ shipping for 1 bottle or 12 bottles... for 1 thermo, 2 DF, 1 glucorell.. whatever.. its 12$ (not 12 gbp)

so thats 78$ for 1 bottle with shipping in UK from EU store... for what is for most people a MINIMUM of 2 month supply..
 
Fonz said:


IN regards to ANORECTIC AND THERMOGENIC behaviour.

(From 1-10)

DNP: Thermopgenic: 10 Anorectic: 0

Clen: Thermogenic: 4 Anorectic: 7

NYC: thermogenic: 5 ANorectic 8

Thermorexin: 6 Anorectic 9

T3: Thermogenic: 7 ANorectic: 0



But in regards to thermorexin there is a zone you really don't want to go to..........(i.e. me) took 3 and had the worst god awful headaches ever.

So, take 2 tabs 1X at a time 2 times/day...and if you're superman 2 tabs 3X/day.

Fonz

..superman? you think? ;)
 
ok T-Rex on an emtpy stomach doesnt agree with me. yesterday i had the runs. today, the runs and i vomited. its not a good feeling to taste the T-Rex coming up.
 
OK guys - this stuff is CRAZY. I'm about halfway through my "Free trial" pack (THANKS AF GUYS!!). I'm taking 1 per day each morning with breakfast (also take 3 ALA caps and a multivit) . HEre is what I have noticed:

1. MUCH more alert/more energy - seems to last about 10~12 HOURS!
2. I was a bit "shaky" last night after 3 glasses of wine (:) ). This is NOT a normal reaction for me - of course I am NOT on any AAS now (would NEVER do alcohol and AAS). I wonder if this has anything to do with the Thermo?
3. I can NOT take the pills later in the day and expect to sleep easy :) - tried that the first night and had to use 1 full pipette of P7 to get snoozing :).

I have not ever used ephedra based products before (or any other types of fat burners) so my tolerance may be low.

Few questions:

1. What is the max suggested time to run Thermo?
2. What are potential sides? (ie addiction, BP, heart etc)
3. Can someone that has an "extra heartbeat" (not me - someone I know) take this stuff safely?


Thats it - looks like I'm gonna order some more in a few weeks to see if I can REALLY lose some weight (already losing some 3 days into it!!!)

newpump OUT!
 
wtf? why am i the only unlucky bastard to have negative sides with this stuff? anyone take T-Rex first thing in the AM on an empty stomach? if so, did you get any sides?
 
DepressiveJuice said:
wtf? why am i the only unlucky bastard to have negative sides with this stuff? anyone take T-Rex first thing in the AM on an empty stomach? if so, did you get any sides?

JG1 did, too. If you search back a whole lot of pages, he decided to discontinue use.

Thermorexin on an empty stomach did not bother me, however, my middle name is "Iron GI Tract". I have nothing but wet monkey love for this product.

Upset stomach is a common side effect of yohimbine - did you ever take NYC, and if so, did it bother your stomach the same?
 
DepressiveJuice said:
wtf? why am i the only unlucky bastard to have negative sides with this stuff? anyone take T-Rex first thing in the AM on an empty stomach? if so, did you get any sides?

You are definately not the only one who can't take it on an empty stomach. We are telling everyone not to do it. The problem is that everyone is used to doing AM cardio on an empty stomach and they don't want to eat anything with the Thermorexin. Also many people say they cramp if they eat anything before cardio.

We are still recommending people eat, preferably a banana, and then take the Thermorexin. The overall results will be better than taking it AFTER the cardio. Also for most people, if you start using it WITH the banana it is likely you will be able to drop the banana by the second or third week. Don't drop it completely but you may be able to eat it after the cardio.
 
just took 2 caps for the first time and loved it :) wicked workout !

i take t-rex on an empty stomach and it doesnt bother me at all
 
newpump said:
OK guys - this stuff is CRAZY. I'm about halfway through my "Free trial" pack (THANKS AF GUYS!!). I'm taking 1 per day each morning with breakfast (also take 3 ALA caps and a multivit) . HEre is what I have noticed:

1. MUCH more alert/more energy - seems to last about 10~12 HOURS!
2. I was a bit "shaky" last night after 3 glasses of wine (:) ). This is NOT a normal reaction for me - of course I am NOT on any AAS now (would NEVER do alcohol and AAS). I wonder if this has anything to do with the Thermo?
3. I can NOT take the pills later in the day and expect to sleep easy :) - tried that the first night and had to use 1 full pipette of P7 to get snoozing :).

I have not ever used ephedra based products before (or any other types of fat burners) so my tolerance may be low.

Few questions:

1. What is the max suggested time to run Thermo?
as needed..
2. What are potential sides? (ie addiction, BP, heart etc)
there may be a "comedown" for some.. mostly due to the caffiene withdrawal.. for most people little or no impact on HR or BP.. some people may expereince dehydration and/or headaches if water intake is insufficient..
3. Can someone that has an "extra heartbeat" (not me - someone I know) take this stuff safely?
this is a doctor question.. one that the individual should ask thier personal physician


Thats it - looks like I'm gonna order some more in a few weeks to see if I can REALLY lose some weight (already losing some 3 days into it!!!)

newpump OUT!
 
Thanks Macro :). The product seems to be working very well, I've been on for 4 days now and I've lost 1/2 inch off the belly. My body fat has been hovering aroun 18 percent, but it is definately going down and I have NOT changed my diet (except for r-ALA nd Thermo) and I'm doing NO cardio. GREAT STUFF!
 
newpump said:
Thanks Macro :). The product seems to be working very well, I've been on for 4 days now and I've lost 1/2 inch off the belly. My body fat has been hovering aroun 18 percent, but it is definately going down and I have NOT changed my diet (except for r-ALA nd Thermo) and I'm doing NO cardio. GREAT STUFF!

i hear you. im hating the side effects but damn its only my fifth day and im almost down a notch on the belt. good stuff :)
 
Are you guys sure your blood pressures haven't raised? Because that is what alpha 1 agonists do.......increase mean BP.
 
bigtbone said:
Are you guys sure your blood pressures haven't raised? Because that is what alpha 1 agonists do.......increase mean BP.

in normotensive humans synephrine does not elevate BP.. in individuals with hypertension it may both raise and lower BP (likely depedent on a1 subtype ratios)
 
Ok, this is my first time posting...I like to read these boards...but Im a little frustrated..hopefully someone can help!

A little backround? I had used Xenadrine RFA-1 for about 3 years...on and off....it finally stopped working....but I had lost about 30lbs on it...

I decided to try the NYC and LOVED It....it made me sweat SO much during my workouts and gave me great energy,..no bad side effects....so when I saw T-Rex...I was really psyched to try it....and its been awfully disappointing....

the first day..I took one....about an hour before going to the gym...and was only able to do 45min cardio because I got SO shaky.....then I read these boards AGAIN and saw that I should take it with a banana...btw...I had taken it in the evening..and had no trouble falling asleep by 9pm....

Yesterday, I took one...half hour before cardio in the morning....it didnt do anything for me....I took one at lunch...still nothing...and then I took one AGAIN before my evening workout..and was able to take a nap then go to the gym....So thats three on my second day?

I thought I should up the dosage...so I took 2 this morning...waited...ate a banana then went to work out...and I threw up....

Any thoughts on what to try to get this stuff to work????

Thanks!
 
try eating a banana or an apple like a minute or more before taking in the thermorexin.

i've had those vomitting feelings, but only for a short while. it doesnt really bother me anymore and its almost been a week that i've been taking t-rex :p
 
Jellybean

Ok bro, you can't take it first and then eat the banana. That is still "taking it on an empty stomach" and doing that with two capsules is absolutely NOT recommended.
I would suggest you continue on with working your way up to 6 a day but eat something and THEN take the two capsules.
As far as sleeping on it goes that is going to VERY individual just like sleeping without is.
I could not take it close to bedtime and sleep that night.
Even if there were no other ingredients in it the level of caffeine is the same as one Starbucks grande coffee. I don't know anyone who can drink two or three of those and go to sleep. But there are those who can. I know because there they are, out in front of Starbucks at 11:00pm, sucking down their Gold Coast and then going home to sleep.
 
thank you both for responding....I realize my error....eating the stupid banana AFTER taking the pills...I guess I was hoping the banana would catch up??? oh well....

btw....Im a girl.....:)....

I will keep you posted...I have two more here at work to take...still kind of nervous about taking two...but Im going to have an apple THEN take them...

One more thing to note...I was REALLY hoping for the appetite suppression...alas...NOPE....at least not yet anyway....

Thanks again!
 
Day 1

Got them last night ~ couldn't wait to start. I had to go to the store before work to get bananas which aren't usually part of my regular diet. Since I tend to have queasy stomach, I decided not to experiment and just go with the whole banana thing. I took it at 6 am this morning and so far... nothing. Hrm..

Taking into consideration how I feel the rest of the day, think its okay to take two on the first day? I'd take another about 3:45 PM, 45 mins prior to my workout

Thanks.
 
Re: Day 1

kira9 said:

Taking into consideration how I feel the rest of the day, think its okay to take two on the first day? I'd take another about 3:45 PM, 45 mins prior to my workout

Thanks.

if you feel fine then 2 should be fine... the 1 starting point is because 1 can be strong for some people.. as people that have jumped to 2 with first dosing have sometimes found to their chagrin
 
Bump for Macro - I started with 1, but after the first week I'm thinking of switching up to 2. For my first 2 days, 1 was REALLY heavy (I got the shakes etc etc). I think the idea is to build up to your tolerance level (kinda like DNP) slowly, in order to risk fewer sides.
 
well, I took 2 AFTER eating a very large apple...the nausea is KILLING ME....I dont think its gonna stay down much longer!

Now what?
 
Took my first one 4 hours ago.

Results so far:

I feel COLD (my hands are icicles) but I don't know if that has anything to do with this.

Zero appetite suppression :confused: I eat 6x a day and right now my stomach is actually GROWLING for my 10 am meal.

No sweating, no alertness, etc. I could lay down and take a nap right now, no problem. I'll take another one this afternoon pre workout and see what happens..

Thanks for all your help.
 
If you are on a low carb diet you will not feel the thermo effects as heavily and maybe not at all. Also if you are low carbing you may have considerably less appetite surpression because your bodies demand of carbs is going to increase when you take Thermorexin. That demand may overpower the appetite surpression. It seems the key is in the carbs. Just eat them.
 
ulter said:
If you are on a low carb diet you will not feel the thermo effects as heavily and maybe not at all. Also if you are low carbing you may have considerably less appetite surpression because your bodies demand of carbs is going to increase when you take Thermorexin. That demand may overpower the appetite surpression. It seems the key is in the carbs. Just eat them.

well i guess that would explain why im getting hungry. im on a very ow carb diet right now. i'll bump up my carbs to 150-200g a day for four days and see what difference i get.
 
If you are on a low carb diet you will not feel the thermo effects as heavily and maybe not at all. Also if you are low carbing you may have considerably less appetite surpression because your bodies demand of carbs is going to increase when you take Thermorexin. That demand may overpower the appetite surpression. It seems the key is in the carbs. Just eat them.

DOH!! I'm doing low carb too. No wonder I've been super hungry and day dreaming about hot fresh bread this morning? I'm going to add some brown rice to some of my meals and see how that works.
 
newpump said:
Bump for Macro - I started with 1, but after the first week I'm thinking of switching up to 2. For my first 2 days, 1 was REALLY heavy (I got the shakes etc etc). I think the idea is to build up to your tolerance level (kinda like DNP) slowly, in order to risk fewer sides.

dnp doesn't habitulate
 
I'm NOT doing a low carb diet.....BUT.....the nausea was so bad that I ate a turkey and cheese sandwich and PRAYED it would stay down... I feel SO much better now... Im thinking perhaps I need to eat more than just a Little in order to keep this stuff inside?

Hopefully its still effective....still dont feel the rush of heat, or the great energy...

I thought this stuff was supposed to be so much better than NYC...so far...Im thinking...Its not:(
 
jellybean1 said:
I'm NOT doing a low carb diet.....BUT.....the nausea was so bad that I ate a turkey and cheese sandwich and PRAYED it would stay down... I feel SO much better now... Im thinking perhaps I need to eat more than just a Little in order to keep this stuff inside?

Hopefully its still effective....still dont feel the rush of heat, or the great energy...

I thought this stuff was supposed to be so much better than NYC...so far...Im thinking...Its not:(

You'll be able to eat much less as you come to the end of your first week. By the second week I could get away with not eating before my Thermorexin. Just don't force it. I know everyone wants to see the magic in the first few days but many people have to be a little more patient and let their bodies adjust to it. It's affecting many systems in your body all simultaniously and for some that creates an overload. If this is the case with you then let your body get used to it.
 
macrophage69alpha said:


true... but DNP does require a slow work up to assess tolerance.. and there is some tolerance with respect to "sides" through adaptation.

I know DNP is bad, but thermo and DNP are an amazing combo. Sweating in front of a fan in t-shirt and shorts yet I feel energetic. It is F-in Sweet. It actually makes the DNP tolerable. I'm stocking my shelves with Thermo!
 
this might be a stupid question but what is the diffrence in THERMOREXIN than just taking efedrine? and if i wanted to by some thermo can someone give me link to buy it. thank
-matt
 
All right, I bit. My wife and I will be starting it as soon as it gets here Friday. Hope this works out. I'm relatively skeptical by nature ...

Somebody should compile the information in this thread into a T-REX FAQ. Would be helpful.
 
ey jellybean, it might be helpful if you could post your diet here on the board so that mac and ulter could analze it and give you tis on how to improve the effieciency of t-rex :D
 
Could anyone tell me whats in this? Id like to know how its working and in how many ways.....
Maybe i wont need all the other shit i was going to get........
 
after using the sample t-rex pills that came with my r-ala......i finally got my bottle. i just took 2 (before am cardio) and i had to shit not but 20 mins later. i dumped now i'm going running.... i'll let you know how this stuff works
 
OXANDRIN said:
after using the sample t-rex pills that came with my r-ala......i finally got my bottle. i just took 2 (before am cardio) and i had to shit not but 20 mins later. i dumped now i'm going running.... i'll let you know how this stuff works


ok cardio went well...right now i feel good. although my appetite isn't really suppressed. i feel warm an hour after cardio and a shower.
 
What am I eating all day? or before I take the t-rex?

well, this morning I ate a slimfast bar...then took 2....and I was OK!...no sickness at all!...that was about 2 and 1/2 hours ago, and right now Im pretty hungry...going to make some tea in a few minutes...

Admittedly, my diet sucks....yesterday, I had the banana (which came up rather quickly).....then a strawberry/banana protein shake......that was breakfast......for lunch...an apple...then the turkey and cheese sandwich for lunch...with some sunflower seeds throughout the afternoon....and for dinner....2 pickled eggs.....umm...and dessert was a fudge popsicle....but you gotta cut me a little slack there...IM VERY PMS'y and craving :)
 
Yesterday I took another before my workout. No noticeable effects for lifting or cardio.

Today:

6am, banana followed by 2 t-rex and it's 7:40 now and.. well.. hrm..
I’m switching up my diet and adding a few more carbs


What I do notice:
I'm down 2 pounds from yesterday's weigh in (water, of course)
Very cold hands and feet (each time) BRR!
Going pee a lot
umm.. and poop more 'n usual :rolleyes:

What I do NOT notice
No thermogenic effect
No workout boost
No mental focus/clarity
:mad: No appetite suppression (Dangit!)

My diet today looks like this:

M1: Banana, egg whites
M2: Cottage Cheese, small apple
M4: 1/2 c brown rice, chicken breast, veggies
M5: Tuna, veggies
M6: Low Carb Protein Shake
 
Er.. yes.. I take 2 tsp flax per day, once in the morning, once in the evening. I don't count it as part of my eats, though.

Also: CLA, Multi Vit, E, C
 
There are almost no carbs in that diet. An apple and banana with 1/2 cup of rice just isn't enough. Your bodies demand for more carbs is overpowering the THERMOREXIN. And in fact is increased by the THERMOREXIN.
What is working though is the increase in your MR. This is going to cause you to lose fat even though you don't "feel" the THERMOREXIN. The majority of people DO feel when their metabolism is raised so much. They feel warmer, feel it in the gym, etc. You should be feeling something even if it's just the effects of the stimulants and 200mg of caffeine. But if you're not that's ok as long as you're losing fat at an increased rate.
 
Okay, hrm.. I cut down on the protein and add 1C whole wheat pasta with M5 & Ak Mak Cracker (whole wheat) with M6? Er.. or if that's not right, do you have a suggestion?

It's funny that I feel the OPPOSITE of thermo effect - COLD. BRR! Three hours ago I took 2 and my hands, arms, feet and face feel cold. They are warm to the touch to other people, though... I had my friend at work feel me up (he didn't complain). :D


Caffeine has never really had much effect for me. I can down a double expresso at 11pm and sleep like a baby. I keep at it for the next week and let you know.

I plan to take another 2 this afternoon before workout. Seem okay?

Btw., I am 5'2", 130 (battling the last 15)
 
kira, if your surface temp is high... the cold you are feeling may be due to a combination of vasoconstriction and vasodilation (so you "feel" cold .. when in fact your are quite warm) due to the various adrenergics.

btw- you sound like 2 should be fine
 
My question is what the difference between this and NYC+. I know they contain different things, but how would one choose between the two?
 
just got mine today..pretty good considering i ordered it on Tuesday. Well, I was on some ephedra free hydroxicut for a little while ( trying something different since i had some problems with ephedra , or at least i thought it was the ephedra) and took one thermo around 1:00pm after a decent meal. Didn't feel much at first, got a little sleepy, took a nap, and the thermo woke me up..lol..felt like ephedra when i first took it when i was 17. for the first few hours, heart was beating little faster, felt hotter, and now a little back to normal.

Sounds like a great powerful product, and i don't see the need to up the dosage untill the time comes. Right now im trying to slim out, in one month i should be doing a test/winstrol cycle, just came off dbol and test. So this should help with added fat lost. Im doing cardio at least 3 times a Week, on normal high carb , high protein, low fat diet. I'll keep results posted. - str8cubano
 
macrophage69alpha said:


no.. for at least 2 ingredient reasons... :D

G**** T**
Gl*******

fill in the blanks :D

can you explain a little further? i assume you mean that these two will both keep insulin levels low as not to make the yohimbine useless.

"Another thing to be considered when using yohimbine is that insulin completely blunts its lipolytic effects, thus it should ideally be used on a low-carb/ketogenic diet, or at the very least, first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, followed by moderate aerobic activity for an extended period. "



also, i know you recommed not takin in on a empty stomach, but I'm on swolegenix and don't want to alter the diet just to throw in carbs to go with this thermo. if my stomach can handle it, would it be a problem to take in with no food? and when i take my second and third doses, should they be with meals regardless of what I eat (just carbs/protein or just protein/fat)?
 
Macro, ulter, or anyone in the know - any idea when the price will go up? I was planning on refreshing my Glucorell-R supply in the next couple of weeks (as I live with two recent r-ALA converts who are burning through my last order), and if Thermorexin is going to cost more soon, I may as well buy another bottle before it becomes too prohibitively expensive.

I'm still loving the stuff, BTW. I've been on it a little more than a week, the fat is rolling off to the point where I seem to be leaner every time I look at my body in the mirror, I'm still not hungry nor over-wired, and I have boundless energy for cardio and lifting.
 
young guns said:


can you explain a little further? i assume you mean that these two will both keep insulin levels low as not to make the yohimbine useless.

"Another thing to be considered when using yohimbine is that insulin completely blunts its lipolytic effects, thus it should ideally be used on a low-carb/ketogenic diet, or at the very least, first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, followed by moderate aerobic activity for an extended period. "



also, i know you recommed not takin in on a empty stomach, but I'm on swolegenix and don't want to alter the diet just to throw in carbs to go with this thermo. if my stomach can handle it, would it be a problem to take in with no food? and when i take my second and third doses, should they be with meals regardless of what I eat (just carbs/protein or just protein/fat)?

the two above ingredients will kep blood insulin levels, particularly if the thermorexin is taken with fruit, at very low levels.. fruit sugars are barely (if at all) insulogenic-- perhaps why they do not need insulin to be stored and have their own uptake regulator..
 
Ceebs said:
Macro, ulter, or anyone in the know - any idea when the price will go up? I was planning on refreshing my Glucorell-R supply in the next couple of weeks (as I live with two recent r-ALA converts who are burning through my last order), and if Thermorexin is going to cost more soon, I may as well buy another bottle before it becomes too prohibitively expensive.


the difference with the coupon will only be 3-4 dollars per bottle.. the coupon will be made available as the one for glucorell was..
 
Ceebs said:

I'm still loving the stuff, BTW. I've been on it a little more than a week, the fat is rolling off to the point where I seem to be leaner every time I look at my body in the mirror, I'm still not hungry nor over-wired, and I have boundless energy for cardio and lifting.

ideal
:D
 
macrophage69alpha said:
the difference with the coupon will only be 3-4 dollars per bottle.. the coupon will be made available as the one for glucorell was..

Whew! That's a load off my mind, thanks. :)

One more question to pose to the group, has this stuff given anyone else butterflies in their stomach? Every few minutes or so, I'll feel a warm twitch in my abs, akin to that "first love" feeling. It's kind of weird, but better than nausea I guess - and I still have no problem taking Thermorexin on an empty stomach.
 
Ceebs said:


Whew! That's a load off my mind, thanks. :)

One more question to pose to the group, has this stuff given anyone else butterflies in their stomach? Every few minutes or so, I'll feel a warm twitch in my abs, akin to that "first love" feeling. It's kind of weird, but better than nausea I guess - and I still have no problem taking Thermorexin on an empty stomach.

yup ive had those weird butterflies in your stomach feeling specially after trying out t-rex on an empty stomach :p
 
i have caterpillars in my stomach if i take TRex on an empty stomach :(
 
supernav said:
Ulter, Macro -- Question:

Okay, got new shipment of "fun" pack from AF.

Start day:

1 Thermorexin
1 Yohimburn. Go workout.

Before Meal:
2 R-Ala (varies)
2 Biotin
2 GLA

10 mins.

eat meal

After Meal:
2 DMAE

Later Evening:
1 Thermorexin

---

How does that look? Should i be using green tea extract pills too, and if so, how mnay? 400mg? Does that look like a kick-ass fat stack? Any changes?

-= nav =-

what mg and what percent ecgc?

yes it looks fine though you may find that you can take more than 2 per day (eventually)

you may also find that taking late in eve may interefere with sleep (though it may not as well.. it varies)

would only take 1 dmae at a time
 
Well, I just broke down and bought a bottle - so I'm hooked :). Great stuff, I have 1 more "trial" dose left and I'm down over 1/2 inch in the tummy =).
 
While Dr Macro takes in the sights at the beach....

I can't answer the DMAE thing but I think you should be going up on your T-Rex there supernav. I wish I could take it at night like you can. I stop at 4PM. I am using one at 8am 11am 2pm 4pm now. My sister in law, who BTW has lost 2 dress sizes, is up to two at a time twice a day and she was REAL sensitive to start.
 
Okay, alot of you folks know I work in a factory surrounded by people with mullets right? I just received my bottle of T-Rex and decided to do a little trial with people that have never stepped foot inside a gym or desire to. I wanted to see how T-Rex effected everday folks and not bodybuilders who are in tune to their body. I figured, I have 10 hours at work and nothing better to do so I decided to make my own case study.

Each person took one T-rex at 630am in the morning. I do not know who ate with it and who didn't.

Very Obese Mullet head.
Mullet boy is around 370 lbs and always asks me "why do you eat all that chicken?" and "where do you find energy to work out?" He is not interested in investing any work to get back to a healthy weight.

Mullet boy said he didn't feel anything from it. All day he was happy and I didn't see him eat his normal helping of food at lunch. He said he was "Just not hungry today."
My feeling is that mullet boy really doesn't know how to read his body at all. Not a very reliable person to get input from, but I thought I would give it a shot.

Short girl
Short girl is 5ft tall and 150lbs. She wakes up every morning at 430am to do 30 min of cardio and workout. She has dropped 60lbs in the last year. I came to her shift and she was very eager to learn how to eat. Very dedicated, but coming to a stalemate on her weight loss.

Short girl loved the T-rex. She started the day with a sweartshirt on, but an hour after taking t-rex she had fans blowing on her in 50 degree weather. She told me she felt warm, felt very alert and awake and also wouldn't stop talking to me which is very rare for her. She said she wanted the web site to buy a bottle.

70's boy
70's boy lives in his world where Zepplin ruled, hates rap and still wears his jeans a LITTLE TOO TIGHT. He is a slim legged guy with a belly starting to protrude. He lives off mountain dew and candy bars from the vending machines.

70's boy said he needed to take his jacket off within an hour of being in the plant. He drives a hi-lo and is usually cold. He told me he felt a little sharper than normal and would like to try it again tomorrow because he came into work with only 4 hours of sleep. He said he felt like he had drank 2 mountain dews (Which means it is good in his lingo.)

Pothead Pete
Pete has put a lot of things into his body that really shouldn't be there. He smokes a joint or 2 every lunch hour. He is 6ft5 and 230lbs. A cool guy Pete is. Very high, but very cool.

Pete said he felt GREAT on T-rex. He usually comes to me for a stacker every now and again and said he felt better on this. He asked me for the web site. Pete was sweating from his forehead the whole day. I looked down at him and saw him several times wipe sweat from his brow.

High strung jersey guy
Jersey guy was the guy I really wanted to test this on. He is a speed freak, but is still really sensitive to thermogenics. He is 5ft 3 and 170lbs. A high strung fellow with a very good vocabulary, which is rare in the factory.

Jersey guy started to sweat...and sweat...and sweat. Fans were turned on, he went to the bathroom to put water on his face, drank more water and still kept sweating. He giggled all day and was an even larger smart-aleck. He LOVED THE STUFF. He told me it gave him a euphoric feeling. He was ready to give me money to pick him up a bottle, but I directed him to the anafit site. His wife is slightly overweight and really is interested. He called her on the phone to tell her about it. HE said this was the best thermo he has ever taken.

Bossman

My boss is a former football player and current nerd. He is 5ft9 and 200lbs. He undergoes a lot of job stress and only gets 3 or 4 hours of sleep with his 4 kids and new baby. He was very tired this morning.

He asked me what I gave him. I asked why and he said, "I feel like I had sleep last night. I can actually think right now." For my boss, that is an odd thing for him to think. He wants to try it again tomorrow to see how he feels on sleep with it.

Then there is me.

5ft 4 180lb midget bodybuilder. I woke up at 430am and took the t-rex. It is now 918pm and I am still feeling the effects of this stuff. Mind you I only took one. I walked into the plant at 530am and it was 49 degrees outside....I didn't wear my coat in. All day I had 4 fans blowing directly on me. I wear coveralls and was really getting a case of chappy-ass all day from the sweat.

I felt alert all day and in fact, still do. Anybody who knows me knows I hate cardio (Forgive me Fukkenshredded) but I did 40 min today after training back (Good mornings, bent rows, chins and pullovers) and calves.

The sweating is not bad now, but I have that sticky residue that comes from sweating all day on my skin.

This is the best thermo I have ever taken bar none. I am really looking forward to the next week. I did get a slight headache from it, but I attribute that more to lower blood sugar from not eating my normal helpings of food.

My nose runs on nyc and it is no different on this. No anxious feeling for me or anybody else that took this today. I just felt great.....AND HOT!!!!!!!

I gave 4 people each one at the gym today...I'll fill you in on these folks tomorrow.

Best thermo I have ever tried. Period!
 
im having problems feeling or knowing if the thermorexin is working the first 2 times i took it i felt it. im on my 4th day at 6 pills ed and dont feel it. i take 2 pills 3 times ed with 1 nyca pill and 1 r-ala.
 
actually i have posted on this board under other names but they expired plus this is my name on ther boards. my diet is a low carb train cardio 3 times a week and free wieghts 3 times a week both HIT style. i got some free sample with my ynca and like how i felt from them so i got a bottle. after 3 days i feel i bilt upp a tolerance already as i dont feel any effects. this first couple days i had bigger shits but back to normal. havnt lost any wieght yet.
 
Does anyone else feel a more general sense of "goodness and balance" (corney I know - but the only way I can describe it) as well as more alert on T-Rex? I just feel... GREAT when on it. Strhage. I may try 2 when I get my order - see what happens :).
 
dragonfire

If you can handle 6/day then just stay there, give it a couple weeks and make your assessment. Like we've posted in this thread a couple time already. You don' t have to "feel" it for it to be doing the job for you. The simple fact that you DID feel it at first would indicate that you are responding to it. I am on week 3 and I don't feel anything anymore except the appy suppression. But as we've indicated that appy suppression will not overpower your low carb diet.

Sorry you lost your old name, that sucks. I was all excited that you found the board through Thermorexin. Oh well.
 
well i found out why i was getting those upset stomach from TRex. went to my doc today and she diagnosed me with IBS. that'll be fun at work. i'll still need to poop in containers so the lab can do samples on it to rule out everything else though. not that you all needed to know but im sure you were concerned about my stomach aches right? ;)
 
DepressiveJuice said:
well i found out why i was getting those upset stomach from TRex. went to my doc today and she diagnosed me with IBS. that'll be fun at work. i'll still need to poop in containers so the lab can do samples on it to rule out everything else though. not that you all needed to know but im sure you were concerned about my stomach aches right? ;)

Sorry to hear it bro. Hope the docs can help you fix it.
 
I feel like the oddball here...the stuff seems to make me hungry moreso than suppress my appetite....and if i take it on an epty stomach it makes me tired?
 
Made the mistake of taking 2 with a coke....

My girlfriend came over and I was sweating through my clothes

Neeldess to say that didnt go very well :-P
 
Ok...This is my fifth day.....I have GAINED 3.5 pounds!!!!!

yesterday, I was up to 5 pills....it still hasnt done anything for me...but I thought this morning that I had enough in my system to take some without food...its very difficult for me to EAT something at 5am...so I took just one..but like clockwork, I threw it up an hour later....

So..I decided to take one of my NYC....I ate and then with a full stomach I took another T-REX....its about an hour later...and now I feel a bit shaky....so my question is....

DO you think its OK for my body to take both the NYC and the T-REX.....am overdosing on anything? I didnt think so..but you guys are supposed to be the experts here....
 
zeeman66 said:
I feel like the oddball here...the stuff seems to make me hungry moreso than suppress my appetite....and if i take it on an epty stomach it makes me tired?

happens to me too bro. dont take it on an empty stomach anymore and you'll be fine. as for the hunger, eat more carbs and you'll get that full feeling
 
I am taking a total of 6 pill per day: two pills 3x a day at 6 am, noon and then 5pm. I am down another 1/2 pound so that's 3 pounds since starting it two days ago.

I do feel EXTRA COLD for about 1-2 hours after I take it, though. BRR! Anyone else feel that?

No extra sweating and no appetite suppression for me, but I DID finally feel it during cardio yesterday. I went on a 5-mile STEEP hike that usually kicks my ass and at the end I could have gone again. I actually would have cheerfully done the loop again if there had been enough daylight left! Slept like a baby last night, no problem.

I will stick with 6 per day for the next few weeks and see how I do.

Curious George: LOL on your descriptions of your co-workers. 70's Guy... with his pants just a LITTLE too tight!! That cracked me up, I know that guy!
 
jb1, You're female correct? Does your weight go up and down a little at certain times of the month? If you are going to toss up the pill an hour after you take it, regardless of whether you eat or not then please don't take it. You may be allergic to one of the ingredients or any number of things. If you keep it down comfortably with NYC then yes it's safe to take the two together.




Note:
Like Depressive Juice just said if you are not feeling the appy suppression then eat some carbs. You will get a feeling of being full with much less food than normal.




Kira9, THAT'S IT!!! It's working for you. If all of a sudden your routine seems like you left half of it out, it's working. Your MR is cranked and you'll drop the fat you want to lose.


Depressive Juice, I hope your stomach gets better bro.
 
jb1, You're female correct? YEs, I am..

Does your weight go up and down a little at certain times of the month? Not usually....

If you are going to toss up the pill an hour after you take it, regardless of whether you eat or not then please don't take it. You may be allergic to one of the ingredients or any number of things.

--I would hate to think that I wasted 65.00 on this pill thats supposed to work 10 times better than NYC! I dont think Im allergic...Ive taken too many kinds of pills for that to be the case.....the whole empty stomach upsetedness seems to be common so Im gonna stick with that theory and keep going....


If you keep it down comfortably with NYC then yes it's safe to take the two together.

OK....so Im gonna continue to take one NYC before eating and one T-Rex after?
hard to tell which pill is doing the work..but its been a few hours and Im still feeling pretty good, full of energy....

its still frustrating though...why cant I have the same benefits everyone else is getting?!?!!?!!? (ok..just throwing a tantrum here....dont mind me!)
 
jellybean1 said:
jb1, You're female correct? YEs, I am..

Does your weight go up and down a little at certain times of the month? Not usually....

If you are going to toss up the pill an hour after you take it, regardless of whether you eat or not then please don't take it. You may be allergic to one of the ingredients or any number of things.

--I would hate to think that I wasted 65.00 on this pill thats supposed to work 10 times better than NYC! I dont think Im allergic...Ive taken too many kinds of pills for that to be the case.....the whole empty stomach upsetedness seems to be common so Im gonna stick with that theory and keep going....


If you keep it down comfortably with NYC then yes it's safe to take the two together.

OK....so Im gonna continue to take one NYC before eating and one T-Rex after?
hard to tell which pill is doing the work..but its been a few hours and Im still feeling pretty good, full of energy....

its still frustrating though...why cant I have the same benefits everyone else is getting?!?!!?!!? (ok..just throwing a tantrum here....dont mind me!)

I take my GT caps frist then the Thermorexin and the upset-stomach has went away so I can relate w/ the NYC thing.

I have a question Ulter...

Since it contains yohim HCL should we wait 1-2 hours before ingesting any carbs after taking T-Rex to avoid increased insulin spike?
 
started takin it today.

1 pill in the am on an empty stomach. slight upset stomach went away as soon as i ate about 1/2 hour later. no carbs with that meal either. personally, with the limited amount of glucorell in it, i don't really think there is a need for carbs with this. and as mentioned already, yohimbine needs to be taken when insulin levels are low. not to mention that every other thermo works best when taken on an empty stomach. so i'll keep takin it 1/2 efore my meals unless i have stomach problems or headaches like some complained of.

i was slightly disappointed for awhile. didn't get much effect until like an hour and 40 min later. then i got nailed with a heat wave, which went away after about 20 min or so. i do feel a little more alert, although no moreso than on NYC. no more or less energized than on NYC either. no increased heart rate and pounding in my chest which is a good thing. all in all, so far i can't say if it's worth the money or not in comparison to NYC. ill be able to make a better judgement in a week or so. but even if it's equivalent to NYC in effects, then it's worth the money since NYC has half the # of pills per bottle, and is pretty much unavailable now.
 
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