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Damn, KG to Classlesstown

KillahBee

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As a born and bred Celtics fan (who stopped caring about the NBA when real basketball died years ago), this is pretty cool (sad to see my boy Ryan G go though).

And it's also a sad statement on the state of professional basketball when this deal pretty much automatically means the Celts will be in the Finals. Shit, the Cavs made it with only ONE player.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
**points and laughs**


Like I said, I stopped caring about the NBA years and years ago. This boring, watered down version of basketball is just cheesy. I'm thankful that I got to grow up watching some of the greatest basketball ever (Magic, Bird, Chief, Isaiah, Jordan, etc., etc.).
 
tall order having them get to the finals
bulls/pistons/cavs (?) should be stout next year
the nets and the heat could contend as well
some decent competition in the east
 
what
the
fuck

you should be a knicks fan.

jesus

the 90's knicks were the baddest motherfuckers ever.

the celtics ain't doing shit. yeah, they have 3 awesome players right now...but they have no depth right now, whatsoever. Their window to win is very very short. if they don't do it this year or the next they sacrificed their future for absolutely nothing.

ray allen's ankles are about to give anytime...and KG is not getting any younger. Al jefferson is going to be a fuckin stud, and that cap space for theo's contract could have been huge next year for a free agent signing. they're also trading gerald green, who isn't even old enough to be a real NBA player yet. he's got great raw skills, if he grows up he'll be good
 
Gambino said:
tall order having them get to the finals
bulls/pistons/cavs (?) should be stout next year
the nets and the heat could contend as well
some decent competition in the east


Cavs made it there with ONE player. Celts have two (and one of better than Lebron).
 
lol @ believing the pistons have anything left.

give me a break, homer.

they were bums this year...webber is probably not coming back. their coach will never win. their team chemistry peaked under larry brown. as much as they shouldn't have paid ben wallace that amount of money, they needed him.
 
calveless wonder said:
what
the
fuck

you should be a knicks fan.

jesus

the 90's knicks were the baddest motherfuckers ever.

the celtics ain't doing shit. yeah, they have 3 awesome players right now...but they have no depth right now, whatsoever. Their window to win is very very short. if they don't do it this year or the next they sacrificed their future for absolutely nothing.

ray allen's ankles are about to give anytime...and KG is not getting any younger. Al jefferson is going to be a fuckin stud, and that cap space for theo's contract could have been huge next year for a free agent signing. they're also trading gerald green, who isn't even old enough to be a real NBA player yet. he's got great raw skills, if he grows up he'll be good


I was born in RI, bro. Celtics & Bruins, Yankees & Giants.

Agree that they have a small window, but that's what you gotta play for in the NBA and in a big market. Right now, with PP and KG (who gives a shit about Ray Allen even), they are top 2 in the East. Only team that can compare is the Heat, but Shaq is DONE. Pistons are a threat but seemed to lose their magic last year.
 
calveless wonder said:
lol @ believing the pistons have anything left.

give me a break, homer.

they were bums this year...webber is probably not coming back. their coach will never win. their team chemistry peaked under larry brown. as much as they shouldn't have paid ben wallace that amount of money, they needed him.
you must not follow bball that much
the billups/hamilton backcourt with tay and wallace is a formidable force
weber is a non factor
and look for maxiell and amir to step it up
no team is gonna want to face them in the playoffs
pistons guranteed a e.c.f appearance, can't say that about any other team
 
Gambino said:
you must not follow bball that much
the billups/hamilton backcourt with tay and wallace is a formidable force
weber is a non factor
and look for maxiell and amir to step it up
no team is gonna want to face them in the playoffs
pistons guranteed a e.c.f appearance, can't say that about any other team


Bet you said that before this past season too....that statement holds NO weight whatsoever.

I think the Pistons still have juice left and they are a playoff team, so I wouldn't want to face them. But I also wouldn't want to face KG/Paul Pierce/Ray Allen either.
 
KillahBee said:
I was born in RI, bro. Celtics & Bruins, Yankees & Giants.

Agree that they have a small window, but that's what you gotta play for in the NBA and in a big market. Right now, with PP and KG (who gives a shit about Ray Allen even), they are top 2 in the East. Only team that can compare is the Heat, but Shaq is DONE. Pistons are a threat but seemed to lose their magic last year.

PP and KG can't play defense by themselves bro. two superstars will not win without role players.

people might bring up lebron (1 man team), but lets face it. they got fuckin LUCKY. Chicago was a better built team than they were. The pistons were ok...last year, better than the cavs.

the trio of jason kidd, RJ, and vince carter is much better than just KG and PP..and really, how far have they gone without any real front court support?
 
KillahBee said:
Bet you said that before this past season too....that statement holds NO weight whatsoever.

I think the Pistons still have juice left and they are a playoff team, so I wouldn't want to face them. But I also wouldn't want to face KG/Paul Pierce/Ray Allen either.
kg is a fuggin stud
fluid game and a good off court dude, which is rare in the nba
the pistons need a big man desperately, that will make or break them playoff time
i gotta wonder if the cavs had their one opportunity, i don't see them getting back
 
calveless wonder said:
PP and KG can't play defense by themselves bro. two superstars will not win without role players.

people might bring up lebron (1 man team), but lets face it. they got fuckin LUCKY. Chicago was a better built team than they were. The pistons were ok...last year, better than the cavs.

the trio of jason kidd, RJ, and vince carter is much better than just KG and PP..and really, how far have they gone without any real front court support?


I'd take KG/Ray/PP over JKidd/RJ/Vince anyday.

This is all relative, 2 superstars WILL win the Eastern conference ANY DAY. Sure, the EC has gotten better in the last 2 years (thank God), but it's still a hugely significant improvement that has to propel them into the top ranks of the EC
 
Gambino said:
you must not follow bball that much
the billups/hamilton backcourt with tay and wallace is a formidable force
weber is a non factor
and look for maxiell and amir to step it up
no team is gonna want to face them in the playoffs
pistons guranteed a e.c.f appearance, can't say that about any other team

yeah, i don't. i just bought the nba league pass for shits and giggles. i watch every team, not just my hometown team

give me a break bro. Tay is a good defender, wallace is still good but he's getting old. They're good on paper but they don't get it done anymore. bottomline

they've been chokers in the playoffs ever since flip took over. he's not a winning coach and doesn't have that team under control and playing the hard nosed D they used to. they had their window, won a championship and now they're just a 2nd round playoff team.
 
Gambino said:
kg is a fuggin stud
fluid game and a good off court dude, which is rare in the nba
the pistons need a big man desperately, that will make or break them playoff time
i gotta wonder if the cavs had their one opportunity, i don't see them getting back


Agree with the Cavs assessment. And now that the rest of the East is caught up a bit (a la the Bulls), it's gonna be tougher for them. I don't know how long your Pistons have left. Prince is nasty tho. Love that skinny fuck
 
KillahBee said:
FYI - I could take any of you assholes on the court.

probably

i have game like howard eisley (meaning i suck at everything and just run around the court and dribble for way too long.)

i'm an awesome towel waver, though. and i'll flagrant foul you all day long. i also play like a power forward in a undersized point guard's body. awesome
 
i chuckled at celts going to finals.. playoffs yes.. finals no chance..
 
calveless wonder said:
probably

i have game like howard eisley (meaning i suck at everything and just run around the court and dribble for way too long.)

i'm an awesome towel waver, though. and i'll flagrant foul you all day long


FF's are all you need on the playground courts, anyway!

I can't dribble worth of shit, decent shot, good passer, GREAT rebounder, great hustle.
 
Phaded said:
i chuckled at celts going to finals.. playoffs yes.. finals no chance..

So what intelligent arguement can you make for why that is laughable?

Considering a team with ONE superstar made it last year.

GO
 
Gambino said:
and you can't forget about the heat
wadewade

lmao...you know how many heat fans are scared shitless bro? Their team is so old and everyone is worried to death. And heat fans are fuckin EGO maniacs when they're winning. when they're losing, no one gives a shit but since they got shaq they don't stop the shit talking. I deal with it on a daily basis since all my friends that aren't from NY/NJ down here are heat fans.

but even THEY now realize they're getting old and wade can not play the way he does for 48 minutes without support. their team is closer to a retirement home than another finals appearance. they're fucked. shaq is done....posey sucks, j will is garbage and getting old, payton LOL, antoine walker? Bum city. they have no one worth a shit on that team besides wade and a decent role player in haslem.

and doleac

i love michael doleac
 
KillahBee said:
So what intelligent arguement can you make for why that is laughable?

Considering a team with ONE superstar made it last year.

GO

i did that already.

LUCK.

pistons choked, chicago could have beaten the cavs.....and the rest of the teams just sucked.
 
KillahBee said:
So what intelligent arguement can you make for why that is laughable?

Considering a team with ONE superstar made it last year.

GO

lets see team dynamics? these cats were all studs on shitty teams... take joe johnson off the suns and put him on the hawks he becomes the leading scorer in the league..
 
Phaded said:
lets see team dynamics? these cats were all studs on shitty teams... take joe johnson off the suns and put him on the hawks he becomes the leading scorer in the league..


So your whole thesis is based on an assumption that KG and PP (maybe even Ray) won't mesh on the court?

While this is certainly valid, it's also just as valid that they WILL mesh. Paul P has been on an island with that team for years. Dude prob has the biggest boner ever right now cause of this move. And Ray is a vet who knows his role, he knows he ain't the superstar.
 
calveless wonder said:
lmao...you know how many heat fans are scared shitless bro? Their team is so old and everyone is worried to death. And heat fans are fuckin EGO maniacs when they're winning. when they're losing, no one gives a shit but since they got shaq they don't stop the shit talking. I deal with it on a daily basis since all my friends that aren't from NY/NJ down here are heat fans.

but even THEY now realize they're getting old and wade can not play the way he does for 48 minutes without support. their team is closer to a retirement home than another finals appearance. they're fucked. shaq is done....posey sucks, j will is garbage and getting old, payton LOL, antoine walker? Bum city. they have no one worth a shit on that team besides wade and a decent role player in haslem
put wade on any eastern team and they would have a shot at a ecf appearance
dude is that good imo
but the one player formula doesn't cut it against the deep west
broke my heart when they beat the pisonts
esp when walker was doing his gay dance at the end of game 7
 
KillahBee said:
So your whole thesis is based on an assumption that KG and PP (maybe even Ray) won't mesh on the court?

While this is certainly valid, it's also just as valid that they WILL mesh. Paul P has been on an island with that team for years. Dude prob has the biggest boner ever right now cause of this move. And Ray is a vet who knows his role, he knows he ain't the superstar.


Pick3 in 3...2...
 
Gambino said:
put wade on any eastern team and they would have a shot at a ecf appearance
dude is that good imo
but the one player formula doesn't cut it against the deep west
broke my heart when they beat the pisonts
esp when walker was doing his gay dance at the end of game 7

game 6 homey. i don't know basketball?
 
KillahBee said:
So your whole thesis is based on an assumption that KG and PP (maybe even Ray) won't mesh on the court?

While this is certainly valid, it's also just as valid that they WILL mesh. Paul P has been on an island with that team for years. Dude prob has the biggest boner ever right now cause of this move. And Ray is a vet who knows his role, he knows he ain't the superstar.

my whole thesis is an entirely new team will not make the finals.. i agree they'll be a good team in the east.. but i honestly doubt they get by round 2 of playoffs.. lets make a friendly wager?
 
calveless wonder said:
yeah, i don't. i just bought the nba league pass for shits and giggles. i watch every team, not just my hometown team

give me a break bro. Tay is a good defender, wallace is still good but he's getting old. They're good on paper but they don't get it done anymore. bottomline

they've been chokers in the playoffs ever since flip took over. he's not a winning coach and doesn't have that team under control and playing the hard nosed D they used to. they had their window, won a championship and now they're just a 2nd round playoff team.
so all you have to say about the pistons is about tay and wallace?
what about billups or hamilton? premier players, combined with tay...three formidable players. sure wallace is getting old but he's still a force.
you can't write them off entirely
 
Phaded said:
my whole thesis is an entirely new team will not make the finals.. i agree they'll be a good team in the east.. but i honestly doubt they get by round 2 of playoffs.. lets make a friendly wager?


Definitely. Karmas?
 
calveless wonder said:
lmao...you know how many heat fans are scared shitless bro? Their team is so old and everyone is worried to death. And heat fans are fuckin EGO maniacs when they're winning. when they're losing, no one gives a shit but since they got shaq they don't stop the shit talking. I deal with it on a daily basis since all my friends that aren't from NY/NJ down here are heat fans.

but even THEY now realize they're getting old and wade can not play the way he does for 48 minutes without support. their team is closer to a retirement home than another finals appearance. they're fucked. shaq is done....posey sucks, j will is garbage and getting old, payton LOL, antoine walker? Bum city. they have no one worth a shit on that team besides wade and a decent role player in haslem.

and doleac

i love michael doleac

lol south florida as a profesional sports fanbase is fucken pathetic.. i remember no one went to the marlins games.. until they were in the fucken world series.. heat games they have a stacked lineup with wade j williams and shaq.. fun ass lineup to watch and they still rarely sell out..

and dolphins lol you can prob. go to a dolphins game for free..
 
calveless wonder said:
game 6 homey. i don't know basketball?
no doubt you would know that, easy to keep track of finals appearances when your team has so few
 
Phaded said:
lol south florida as a profesional sports fanbase is fucken pathetic.. i remember no one went to the marlins games.. until they were in the fucken world series.. heat games they have a stacked lineup with wade j williams and shaq.. fun ass lineup to watch and they still rarely sell out..

and dolphins lol you can prob. go to a dolphins game for free..

agreed bro. they're the worst....EVER. i fuckin despise them.
they're the anti new york fans. New yorkers beat up their team verbally and may even boo if people aren't playing hard, but it's because we love them and they disappoint us when they play like shit. South florida fans...only when it's convenient. it disgusts me

i've been a knicks, mets and jets fan since i was tiny....and never stopped rooting for them. you can only imagine the countless disappointment i dealt with (minus the couple of knicks finals appearances/playoff runs in the 90's..and the couple of jets playoff appearances). all those teams seem to be turning around though finally
 
Faizakafez said:
Raptors!

Andrea B.

Chris B
Anthony Parker
Garbo
TJ
Delfino

raps are decent bro...i give them credit. collangelo is a good fuckin GM. he surrounded bosh with all these euro shooters. and tj ford is LIGHTNING quick. just not very consistent. one of my best friends/frat brothers from Houston used to play against him...he had to guard him a few times and he kept saying he was one of the fastest guys he's ever seen


they still need another superstar/2nd option on that team, but they're moving in the right direction. Barginini is going to be a stud...but i still think they need someone else
 
calveless wonder said:
raps are decent bro...i give them credit. collangelo is a good fuckin GM. he surrounded bosh with all these euro shooters. and tj ford is LIGHTNING quick. just not very consistent. one of my best friends/frat brothers from Houston used to play against him...he had to guard him a few times and he kept saying he was one of the fastest guys he's ever seen


they still need another superstar/2nd option on that team, but they're moving in the right direction. Barginini is going to be a stud...but i still think they need someone else

Yea man, thats the thing everyone around in thier division got a bit better but the raps stayed the same ..

(knicks, celtics , NJ (will have kristich back)

they lack size and that one go to guy ( chris bosh obviously is not him)
 
Faizakafez said:
Yea man, thats the thing everyone around in thier division got a bit better but the raps stayed the same ..

(knicks, celtics , NJ (will have kristich back)

they lack size and that one go to guy ( chris bosh obviously is not him)

what? BOsh is a stud bro....certain teams can shut him down (the knicks did a real good job of this), but alot of the time when they shut him down the shooters go bananas. he just needs someone to alleviate some of the pressure,, and he's still mad young.


on a side note, i think my knicks are going to surprise some people.

zach and curry down low makes for an unstoppable offensive combo. no front line in the east can match up with that. Crawford and marbury in the backcourt w/ q rich...and david lee, balkman off the bench. money in the bank

if they trade for artest, the east is in trouble. 7 mil in expiring contracts + wilson chandler or balkman will get that deal done. they just can't trade their expiring contracts yet because of NBA rules...

Curry
Randolph
artest
crawford
marbury

that's a sick team
 
calveless wonder said:
what? BOsh is a stud bro....certain teams can shut him down (the knicks did a real good job of this), but alot of the time when they shut him down the shooters go bananas. he just needs someone to alleviate some of the pressure,, and he's still mad young.


on a side note, i think my knicks are going to surprise some people.

zach and curry down low makes for an unstoppable offensive combo. no front line in the east can match up with that. Crawford and marbury in the backcourt w/ q rich...and david lee, balkman off the bench. money in the bank

if they trade for artest, the east is in trouble.

Oh man , i love bosh but when teams double him its pretty much over like the NJ series. One on One he has played really well against (duncan, kg) but his defence is lacking..the problem with the raptors is they are jump shooting team if there shots arnt there they have no one who can really take you one on one to the basket. Bosh can but if the double is there he is ineffective..

also the 90's kick vs the heat were bad ass series!!

whats sports do you follow?
 
Faizakafez said:
Oh man , i love bosh but when teams double him its pretty much over like the NJ series. One on One he has played really well against (duncan, kg) but his defence is lacking..the problem with the raptors is they are jump shooting team if there shots arnt there they have no one who can really take you one on one to the basket. Bosh can but if the double is there he is ineffective..

also the 90's kick vs the heat were bad ass series!!

whats sports do you follow?

90's knicks vs heat were CLASSIC. Van gundy hanging off Mourning's leg LMFAO
knicks vs bulls too. god, that was basketball. then they changed the rules and it became a non contact sport. They'll suspend anyone for a little tap on the wrist. that's when the NBA started sucking.

i'm a huge bball fan, followed by football, baseball and i sorta kinda follow hockey. but the first three sports i love. i stopped following hockey in the late 90's.....i don't even remember why but i used to be a huge islanders and devils fan
 
baseball is the one i follow but not like religon...

the east did get better orlando added ( i forget who) but a big name


then the suns got hill!! thats pretty sick there.

shit just saw that propsed knick line up.. i doubt it will work man you need role players and like 1-2 stars a all-star starting line up esp that head case one is no good.. the pistons are an exception ( even though Sheed shouldnt have made it)
 
Faizakafez said:
baseball is the one i follow but not like religon...

the east did get better orlando added ( i forget who) but a big name


then the suns got hill!! thats pretty sick there.

shit just saw that propsed knick line up.. i doubt it will work man you need role players and like 1-2 stars a all-star starting line up esp that head case one is no good.. the pistons are an exception ( even though Sheed shouldnt have made it)

david lee is the ultimate role player, so is balkman. marbury doesn't care about scoring anymore. he matured alot last year under Isiah...he's all about playing tough lockdown D and getting the ball to the open man. marbury played his heart out last year when everyone was injured.

Q rich also doesn't have to score to be effective, neither does artest.

randolph, curry and crawford will probably account for most of the offense and when they're having an off night q rich, artest or marbury would step up.

dude, orlando is going to suck. they paid rashard lewis 107+ million dollars??? WTF. for a guy that does 1 thing and 1 thing only...score, and he's not even top 10 in the league in that.

also grant hill is nothign more than a role player, he'll probably play 45 games
 
calveless wonder said:
david lee is the ultimate role player, so is balkman. marbury doesn't care about scoring anymore. he matured alot last year under Isiah...he's all about playing tough lockdown D and getting the ball to the open man. marbury played his heart out last year when everyone was injured.

Q rich also doesn't have to score to be effective, neither does artest.

randolph, curry and crawford will probably account for most of the offense and when they're having an off night q rich, artest or marbury would step up.


forgot about lee and blakman... but marbury is over-rated imo, he can break people of the dribble but his defense is beatable. his fg% is sub par too... artest is a good mid range dude, q-rich that guy didnt play all last or for the most part who knows its kinda like damn jones that guy was the 3-point 'king' but now is shit... and crawford is over paid useless hunk of shit
 
calveless wonder said:
90's knicks vs heat were CLASSIC. Van gundy hanging off Mourning's leg LMFAO
knicks vs bulls too. god, that was basketball. then they changed the rules and it became a non contact sport. They'll suspend anyone for a little tap on the wrist. that's when the NBA started sucking.

i'm a huge bball fan, followed by football, baseball and i sorta kinda follow hockey. but the first three sports i love. i stopped following hockey in the late 90's.....i don't even remember why but i used to be a huge islanders and devils fan


love watching espn classic knicks vs bulls series..

prob. one of the best set of playoff series ever out of any sport..
 
what? BOsh is a stud bro....certain teams can shut him down (the knicks did a real good job of this), but alot of the time when they shut him down the shooters go bananas. he just needs someone to alleviate some of the pressure,, and he's still mad young.


on a side note, i think my knicks are going to surprise some people.

zach and curry down low makes for an unstoppable offensive combo. no front line in the east can match up with that. Crawford and marbury in the backcourt w/ q rich...and david lee, balkman off the bench. money in the bank

if they trade for artest, the east is in trouble. 7 mil in expiring contracts + wilson chandler or balkman will get that deal done. they just can't trade their expiring contracts yet because of NBA rules...

Curry
Randolph
artest
crawford
marbury

that's a sick team





oloolololollooloooooooooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllll
 
lollllllooolllllllll

how great was that game lastnight?


Only caught the end brah, so hard to juggle getting stoked, watching the sox, Bruins, Celtics and have sexuals with the ole lady

all in all a good night
 
THe magic or so overrated, I can't beleive they're giving this much trouble to the celtics. Howard is an offensive ZERO!! His only contributions on the court are blocks and rebounds. Nobody on that team can hit consistent mid range jumpers. If the trey isn't there, that team sucks ass. I love Dwight, he is a cool cat........but if he's more than 8 feet from the basket he's pretty much just there to pass off. He's getting guarded by Sam Perkins for god sake, he's got 2-3 inches on him and about 2 feet of wingspan. Perkins is OWNING him. THe celtics should have been done with this series about a game or two ago. I understand that when the magic are hot, they're pretty damn tough........but the Cavs would have run them off the floor the last couple games with how badly they're shooting. Celt's are in trouble even if they do get past the magic.
 
THe magic or so overrated, I can't beleive they're giving this much trouble to the celtics. Howard is an offensive ZERO!! His only contributions on the court are blocks and rebounds. Nobody on that team can hit consistent mid range jumpers. If the trey isn't there, that team sucks ass. I love Dwight, he is a cool cat........but if he's more than 8 feet from the basket he's pretty much just there to pass off. He's getting guarded by Sam Perkins for god sake, he's got 2-3 inches on him and about 2 feet of wingspan. Perkins is OWNING him. THe celtics should have been done with this series about a game or two ago. I understand that when the magic are hot, they're pretty damn tough........but the Cavs would have run them off the floor the last couple games with how badly they're shooting. Celt's are in trouble even if they do get past the magic.

cleveland looks unstoppable right now
 
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