Competative Natural Bodybuilder

[cheeseball]

Chris,\
don't bother with it. People who are weakminded tend to stay that way. If you don't believe you can acheive something... then you won't. 3 years ago i would've argued this guy til i was blue in the face, but now I accept it for what it is and move on. I know i'm clean, my family knows, my good friends know... I don't honestly care what this guy thinks of me, but I do appreciate you being a good friend and backing me up so voraciously.
-Layne

Yeah, I'm done with the arguing. Internet bickering becomes exhausting I'll see you at charlie's

 

[kethnaab]

in the end, you said it...the bickering is exhausting (and pointless)

Guy1 : "You use steroids"
Guy2 : "No I don't"
Guy1 : "Yes you do"
Guy2 : "No I don't"
Guy1 : "Yes you do"
Guy2 : "Nuh-uh!"
Guy1 : "Yuh-huh!"

etc.

you'll get nowhere fast. Some people really hate to see a natural show them up. I have had that happen tons of times, guys on juice forced to stare their own training inadequacies in the face buy a guy who is clean and is grossly outlifting them. It probably hurts.

By the same token, there have been so many reports of guys who have competed in natural shows and obviously were *not* natural, hence the skepticism. I mean, think about it str8. If I'm a competitor in a natural BB show, do you think I'm going to tell one of my opponents that I'm juicing? HELL NO. If I'm a cheater, then I'm not going to admit to it, ESPECIALLY not to my opponents. Chances are good you've smoked guys you thought were "natural".
Just roll with it, keep training hard and heavy. Props to you and your hard work.

 

[str8flexed]

in the end, you said it...the bickering is exhausting (and pointless)

Guy1 : "You use steroids"
Guy2 : "No I don't"
Guy1 : "Yes you do"
Guy2 : "No I don't"
Guy1 : "Yes you do"
Guy2 : "Nuh-uh!"
Guy1 : "Yuh-huh!"

etc.

you'll get nowhere fast. Some people really hate to see a natural show them up. I have had that happen tons of times, guys on juice forced to stare their own training inadequacies in the face buy a guy who is clean and is grossly outlifting them. It probably hurts.

By the same token, there have been so many reports of guys who have competed in natural shows and obviously were *not* natural, hence the skepticism. I mean, think about it str8. If I'm a competitor in a natural BB show, do you think I'm going to tell one of my opponents that I'm juicing? HELL NO. If I'm a cheater, then I'm not going to admit to it, ESPECIALLY not to my opponents. Chances are good you've smoked guys you thought were "natural".
Just roll with it, keep training hard and heavy. Props to you and your hard work.

all points well taken. I appreciate the compliments.

-Layne

 

[eat big]

Hey Layne,

I'm only 19, thus I am natural. I have started to think that Flat Bench isn't worth the time. Your post in the link below indicates you don't do flat bench. Is that true, if so, I may try it because I've felt Inc. and Dec. work best for me.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=11992&view=findpost&p=172880

 

[cheeseball]

I'm not layne, and he'll answer this better, but no he doesn't use flat barbell bench. He loves his dumbbells. That's the quick answer.

 

[str8flexed]

Hey Layne,

I'm only 19, thus I am natural. I have started to think that Flat Bench isn't worth the time. Your post in the link below indicates you don't do flat bench. Is that true, if so, I may try it because I've felt Inc. and Dec. work best for me.

http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=11992&view=findpost&p=172880

when i switched to an all dumbbell routine i got more growth in 12 weeks than I had in the previous 3 years using barbells. I am a big fan of dumbbells

 

[eat big]

when i switched to an all dumbbell routine i got more growth in 12 weeks than I had in the previous 3 years using barbells. I am a big fan of dumbbells

Thank you, will try it out.

 

[kethnaab]

and, speaking as one with a shoulder reconstruction surgery behind me, going heavy with the bells is ALOT easier on the shoulder joints than going heavy with the bar.

 

[B0ARDIN087]

Ya this guy looks very natural !!! STFU please........ 95% or maybe more of my entire gym and every gym that I have went too does not have one guy that looks like this.

this guys has excellent genetics and obviously trains like an animal, anyone that lean would be questioned for anabolic use. I look good and I train 4 times a week with weights, and do cardio up the ass and I do not look even close to this guy. I am like 170 with maybe 9% BF. that is why I questioned him.

but it is possible to have this build without using ? yes it is.... with a combo of great genes and hard work and killer diet. (not too mention the non-anabolic stuff he is using)

getting as lean as him isn't out of the question without anabolics..... but anyone to train hard enough to be int hat kind of shape... would be much larger with anabolics.. jsut my .02 cents

 

[Maverick]

getting as lean as him isn't out of the question without anabolics..... but anyone to train hard enough to be int hat kind of shape... would be much larger with anabolics.. jsut my .02 cents

I know, i mentioned that in my post.

this guy knows his shit and his Dumbell suggestion made my chest and shoulders happy.

I like layne