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str8flexed said:
It's a done deal. I'll be there! Make sure and call me when you are on your way, so I know I should be on mine.
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It's a done deal. I'll be there! Make sure and call me when you are on your way, so I know I should be on mine.
floridalife
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there's also people going around claimning to be natural because they have not used in 12 months.. I don't care if you used 6 years ago, you can not claim to be natural.. as for you umm i'd say negatory on 100% all natural. I'd kind of like clinton saying he never had sexual relations.. alot of guys find ways around natural and juice with words.. I am willing to bet you you have taken something orally or inectable that not everyone would agree would classify you as natural...
cheeseball
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I'mwilling to bet you are a 100% MORON. What do you not understand? We are not talking shades of grey here. THere are plenty of people who have chimed in on this thread and backed up his statements. I guarantee, you put up the money for the bloodwork and whatever else, (polygraph) he will come away clean every time. He competes in orgs that have a 7 year clean minimum! Or just wait a few more months, he will be competing in some all natural competitions. Wait till he comes back with his placings. He has no shame in doing natural shows, because he is natural!
He is a bonified natural. Not even prohormones. Of course I'm sure he is happy because it is a big compliment to be accused of roids and not have used. Seriously, it becomes irritating when people who haven't been strict and haven't had discipline for years on end come in and accuse! WTF do you want him to say? He uses protein shakes and creatine. He will kick your ass in the gym with his intensity. I have watched him workout for a long time. He sticks to a diet like it's his religion.
He has average genetics. Yet, he is a competitive bodybuilder who deserves everything he gets because he has worked for them. Go to his sites and read what he has accomplished and what he has written. He knows his crap. Trust me, if you or almost anyone else would follow everything he says for a few years, you would see great results. Or just follow the guidelines from anyone who has been in the game and looks good. Of course, I listen to layne because 1. I have known him for a long time, and 2. he doesn't pick up his stuff from magazine articles. He is a phd candidate in nutritional biochemistry and already published one peer review journal!
But hey, if you are so insecure with your progress and it makes you feel better, believe what you want! Just know, this guy don't play, he works! I am one of the people that has been less than consistent. But I use layne as motivation. If he can do it, trust me, you can and so can others. Just follow the rules of eating clean and lifting hard. Don't get smashed every weekend, as that is suicide for your muscles. get adequate rest. Bump up calories if you hit a sticking point. change workout every 4-8 weeks.
Keep yourself motivated and accomplish what others have accomplished before you and what others are doing now! I'm trying to light a fire here. If you haven't been consistent, start now! Start doing all the things you know to do and reap the benefits. end of story.
floridalife
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what a douche bag
cheeseball
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don't blame me for your ASSumptions on layne!
I have a feeling your quote will follow you through life!
I have a feeling your quote will follow you through life!
cheeseball
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You g-bombed me??!!?? Why is that? because I told the truth?
I said nothing wrong until now. You can come in and accuse, but I can't stick up for a guy that I know is completely 100% legit. Good luck man, I guess truth falls on deaf ears.
I said nothing wrong until now. You can come in and accuse, but I can't stick up for a guy that I know is completely 100% legit. Good luck man, I guess truth falls on deaf ears.
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floridalife
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Unless you are that person you are unable to know 100% that makes you the moron stating something as 100% factual when you CAN NOT know
cheeseball
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keep making excuses for yourself. What more do you want than all of the evidence he has presented? Not too mention all of the people who have validated his claim. You are just stuck in your own world, you special platinum member.
I know beyond a doubt that layne has neve done any juice. look at his progression. THere is never a time that stands out and makes you say, "whoa, he must've been doing something."
Anyway, I think I am done with this argument. This thread is for layne.
I know beyond a doubt that layne has neve done any juice. look at his progression. THere is never a time that stands out and makes you say, "whoa, he must've been doing something."
Anyway, I think I am done with this argument. This thread is for layne.
str8flexed
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sorry bro, I never have taken anything. Worse thing I took was ephedra when i was 16. Never taken prohormones, steroids & the like. If you don't believe me... well thanks for the compliment but there are a bunch of guys out there that are natural who still have better physiques than me lolfloridalife said:
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Chris,\cheeseball said:
don't bother with it. People who are weakminded tend to stay that way. If you don't believe you can acheive something... then you won't. 3 years ago i would've argued this guy til i was blue in the face, but now I accept it for what it is and move on. I know i'm clean, my family knows, my good friends know... I don't honestly care what this guy thinks of me, but I do appreciate you being a good friend and backing me up so voraciously.
-Layne
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