CNN has crossed the line into propaganda-machine

[dballer]

CNN is the most DANGEROUS organization on the planet. It can influence the nation to think whatever the hell they want to think. They control the media, washington and the public. They should be regulated.

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RIGHT ON!!!

 

[StoneColdGold]

Nobody wants to fight a war besides the US right-wing government. Am I the only one that sees this?

last time i looked, EVERY UN nation minus france, germany, and russia supports military action. thats 16 nations for, 3 against. define "nobody."

 

[HansNZ]

Right. Democracy doesn't apply to us. We are a Republic. And you are nuts if you think CNN is anything but left wing. And our gov't is not right wing. Dubya is just barely right of center.

CNN is not left-wing. It has a multinational corporatist pro-american agenda.

Dubya is a right-wing extremist. The Democrats are centrists - and right of centre in economics. They are more akin to the British Labour party who have evolved as a centrist, not left wing party. In fact the US Democrats would still be to the right of Labour in ideology if not in practice.

The US does not have a left wing party due to its suppression of political freedom, the labour movement, and communism during the 1950s. Much of this political suppression remains. It is the exception rather than the rule to find professors teaching communist theory in "respectable" US universities. Even for non-communists, communism forms the most comprehensive system of analysis of liberalism and must be included in a well-balanced political environment.

The US population is by and large very conservative and right leaning. It is only in such an environment that Democrats can be considered a party of the left. Elsewhere in the world parties with a Republican agenda are classified as far FAR right.

Republican ideology is ridiculous and non-sensicle to most people outside the US who have a more social democtratic worldview. In other Western countries, far right extremists have minority appeal and aren't a major party like the Republicans are in the US.

 

[oubeta]

Fox News Fair and Balanced

Says it all

Fuck CNN

 

[spentagn]

CNN is not left-wing. It has a multinational corporatist pro-american agenda.

Under Ted Turner, it was certainly not a conservative news network, if that's what you're suggesting.

Dubya is a right-wing extremist. The Democrats are centrists - and right of centre in economics. They are more akin to the British Labour party who have evolved as a centrist, not left wing party. In fact the US Democrats would still be to the right of Labour in ideology if not in practice.

All of this is according to your perceptions. To me, Bush is not an extremist, though some of his appointees, namely Ashcroft, border on it. Many dems here would be considered fascists in Europe.

The US does not have a left wing party due to its suppression of political freedom, the labour movement, and communism during the 1950s. Much of this political suppression remains. It is the exception rather than the rule to find professors teaching communist theory in "respectable" US universities. Even for non-communists, communism forms the most comprehensive system of analysis of liberalism and must be included in a well-balanced political environment.

I'm not sure which "respectable US universities" you're referring to, but the two universities I've attended, and a community college, all included communism in their political classes. In fact, the university I currently attend has a tenured professor who is also chairman of the state communist party.

The US population is by and large very conservative and right leaning. It is only in such an environment that Democrats can be considered a party of the left. Elsewhere in the world parties with a Republican agenda are classified as far FAR right.

Agreed, though more Americans identify with the Democratic party. Republicans actually show up and vote, however.

Republican ideology is ridiculous and non-sensicle to most people outside the US who have a more social democtratic worldview. In other Western countries, far right extremists have minority appeal and aren't a major party like the Republicans are in the US.

And European ideology is ridiculous to most Americans, who value individual rights moreso than Europeans. Maybe it has to do with our "melting pot," but America doesn't have the historic cultural bonds that say the Franks or Germans do. Along the same lines, most Americans wouldn't be willing to sacrifice our monetary policy for the sake of a better North America. Apparently, the UK agrees with us on that as well.

 

[HansNZ]

Under Ted Turner, it was certainly not a conservative news network, if that's what you're suggesting.

I am suggesting that it is right leaning. It may not appear corporatist to Americans though. In fact by American standards it is not right-leaning at all. It appears very leftist.

All of this is according to your perceptions. To me, Bush is not an extremist, though some of his appointees, namely Ashcroft, border on it.

Yes, perceptions too. But ideologically he reads like a right-winger from a polsci textbook.

Many dems here would be considered fascists in Europe.[/B]

I would have to agree with that.

I'm not sure which "respectable US universities" you're referring to, but the two universities I've attended, and a community college, all included communism in their political classes. In fact, the university I currently attend has a tenured professor who is also chairman of the state communist party.[/B]

My Professor was fired when he worked at princeton for teaching marxism. I know several Americans who went to IV league colleges and endorse my opinion. One American I met recently, went to Brown University, which he classified as liberal. He said Marxism is hardly touched upon there.

Agreed, though more Americans identify with the Democratic party. Republicans actually show up and vote, however.

And European ideology is ridiculous to most Americans, who value individual rights moreso than Europeans. [/B]

The primacy of "individual rights in US society is largely rhetoric. It didn't stop you from having segregation or suppressing political freedom and diversity. I wouldn't want to have been or still be a communist in the USA.

In New Zealand we value individuals rights. We have more of them than you do too. I'd love to see our government hold its citizens without legal representation for months as has occurred in the US since 9/11. This US is also the only developed country which still executes people - yet the US will preach about human rights! Nothing in social democratic ideology impeaches individual rights - quite the contrary. That is a right-wing American argument based on assertion more than fact.

Maybe it has to do with our "melting pot," but America doesn't have the historic cultural bonds that say the Franks or Germans do. Along the same lines, most Americans wouldn't be willing to sacrifice our monetary policy for the sake of a better North America. Apparently, the UK agrees with us on that as well. [/B]

In New Zealand we are a melting pot too, and Republican ideology is non-sensicle to us. In fact we find Republican style conservatism to be an anathema for a tolerant and pluralistic society.

 

[spentagn]

In New Zealand we are a melting pot too, and Republican ideology is non-sensicle to us. In fact we find Republican style conservatism to be an anathema for a tolerant and pluralistic society.

America is pluralism at its best, and its very worst.

 

[musclebrains]

CNN is responding to its loss of ratings by becoming more Fox-like -- conservative and blending reporting with commentary. I know lots of people who work in the Atlanta offices and they all feel the pressure. There isn't much effort inside the organization to hide this strategy.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Based on my limited knowledge, I was wrong to imply all steroids inhibit the effectiveness of the immune system via the thymus gland in animals.

I should have been more precise. Long term effects of sustained corticosteroid application suppress immune system response in lab rats, resulting in a significant increase in the onset of terminal disease.

You have effectively destroyed your argument. Androgens are not corticosteroids. All steroids are not the same.

Please stop with the steroids/meth post.

 

[atlantabiolab]

Based on my limited knowledge, I was wrong to imply all steroids inhibit the effectiveness of the immune system via the thymus gland in animals.

I should have been more precise. Long term effects of sustained corticosteroid application suppress immune system response in lab rats, resulting in a significant increase in the onset of terminal disease.

You have effectively destroyed your argument. Androgens are not corticosteroids. All steroids are not the same.

Please stop with the steroids/meth post.