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Change up your cycles often. Blast and cruse.

needtogetaas

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I see a whole lot of confusion on the boards about how to run AAS cycles. It seems theres a new book written every month. Many are making it out to be much more complicated than it really is and this should not be.


To start out with each individual has a different amount of AAS receptor sites. In additon everyone reacts differently to drugs and what works for your buddy may not necessarily work for you. I know some who swear by Tren while others gain more from Deca or Winstrol. I've witnessed men blow up on insulin type products while others gained very little. Only you can be the judge of which drugs truly works best for you and which ones do not. Once you find out which anabolics works best for your particular body, you should make use of them often.

Some guys can grow on small amounts of drugs while others must take massive amounts to obtain similar results. No one should exceed any threshold level of a drug until it fails to deliever acceptable results. As with drug selection you will have to find what dosages work for you. There are some bodybuilders who find the need to use very high dosages and suffer through side effects such as chronic fatigue, headaches, insomnia, high blood pressure, and sexual dysfunction inorder to make the same gains that others can make by using small amounts and suffering little to no side effects.

Just because Joe is making great gains on 600 mgs of test and 400 mgs of eq per week doesn't mean you can do the same regardless of how good your training program or diet may be. You might need to add deca and d-bol or tren and EQ along with the test base to get the results you are after


Anabolics do not shut down receptor sites. If receptor sites shut down after a period of time the PRO'S could not maintain their massive physiques on the high dosages they use. Their bodies would eventually shrivel up on the same amounts of Androgens being put into their body because such an enormous amount of lean mass could not be maintained on the same dosages.

AAS actually "INCREASE" the number of "androgen receptors". This explains why continually upping the dosage works better up to a point. For e.g.; 800 mgs of test each week will gives the same individual better gains in size/strength than 400 grams. The reason for this is because the left over androgens from the higher dosage will attach themselves to cortisol receptors and produce a larger "anti-catabolic" effect. The body can gain large amounts of muscle in a short period of time but the body soon catches on and reaches homeostasis, dictating a need for change once again.

High SHGB levels are one of the main culprits to be considered when AAS are no longer working in conjunction with a good diet-training program. SHBG ( Sex Hormone Binding Globlin) prevents testosterone from fitting into the receptors. (Bound testosterone) equals about 97-99% of total testosterone circulation while (free testosterone) equals about 1-3% of total test. Free testerone is able to fit into the receptor. ( Androgens "lower" SHBG while Estrogens "increase" them). Estrogens bind to the same SHGB as Androgens and by lowering SHGB levels it actually produces an elevation in bio-available estrogen. However, (estrogens will increase receptor site sensitivity for a short period of 3 weeks) and enhance the overall results obtained when using steroids through several pathways including the production of more IGF-1/GH and an increased amount of muscle glycogen synthesis.

The primary focus should be placed on altering the ratio of bound and free testosterone by keeping SHBG low with the utilization of varied dosages, incorporating different drugs, utilizing DHT derivatives/, manipulating anti-estrogens, and discontinuing the cycle when needed.

When androgen receptors are over-loaded the greatest amount of protein synthesis will occur. Once protein synthesis occurs the need for higher dosages or different AAS will be needed because there will "now" be a larger supply of (androgen receptor sites) from the (added muscle mass) aquired through the use of steroids. The body reaches homeostasis from an increase in cortisol levels after being on AAS for a period of 8 weeks.

Utilizing short 8 week cycle burst, then cruising-running smaller dosages of test enanthate for 3 weeks, then going back on full-throttle for another 6-8 weeks depending on which drug is used, will allow one to maintain most if not all of their newly found strength-size gains minus water retention duing the cruising period. This is due to the fact your never off long enough to give the muscles a chance to shrink.

During the cruising faze one should use dht dirivatives or a product like unleashed to lower shbg as much as possible. One should also use adex as well to lower estrogen during this time.

The point of this blitz cycle is to make use of the 4-8 week time frame of muscle building. Then drop estro and shbg to clear the receptors and get ready for the next round.

I would not cruise and blits for longer then a few cycles unless you plan to stay on forever. Doing blitz and cruise cycles takes lots of planing in advance and a well timed and planed pct.

During the blitz faze one should utilize creatine loading.

during the cruise faze one should utilize blood volumising, and plasma expanding products like Vigor and AM02.

During the cruise one should also use this time to incorporate hcg as well as a product like dermacrine and glutamin.


During the whole process one should be using
1. A muti
2. bcaa's
3. waizy maize
4. a product like Ai's cycle support.
5. should always always always have letro,adex,and dotinex on hand and ready to go.



Now let us take a look at some blitz and cruise cycle examples. Coming up!!!:D:D:D:D:D:heart::heart::heart:
 
week 1-8 blitz
1-8 test prop 100mg ed
1-8 test e 250mg ew
1-8 tren ace 100mg ed
1-4 50mg dbols ed
1-8 creatine loading


weeks 9-17
9-17 250mg test-e ew
9-17 proviron 50mg ed
9-17 Vigor and or AM02
9-17 adex .5mg every 3 days
9-17 hcg 500iu's ew
9-17 glutamin ed

weeks 18-22 second blits
18-22 test-e 250mg ew
18-22 test prop 100mg ed
18-22 tren ace 100mg ed
18-22 primo 400mg ew
18-22 creatine loading

last cruse
23-27 test-e 250mg ew
23-27 primo 400mg ew
23-27 proviron 50mg ed
23-27 Vigor and or AM02
23-27 adex .5mg every 3 days
23-27 hcg 500iu's ew


pree pct
27-31 primo 400mg ew
27-32 unleashed from PF
27-32 dermacrine from PP

pct
32-34 hcg 1000iu's eod
34-38 clomid 50mg ed
34-38 test recovery stack from pp.

threw out cycle weeks 1-38 take a sups like ai's cycle support,A muti,bcaa's,waizy maize, and of course a good protein.

Heep plenty of letro,adex,and dostinex on hand at all times.
 
thanks man makes sense to me. I am on hrt and I think I have been cruising too long. my cruising is only
200 test cyp ew
200 deca ew
50 stanz e 3 days
hgh
creatine
no2 product
adex
b-compex and b-12 ew
I have been on close to a year I wonder of I should go on pct for awhile or just blast off
I don.t think my ( ) is shut down at these lower doses?
any opinions
 
thanks man makes sense to me. I am on hrt and I think I have been cruising too long. my cruising is only
200 test cyp ew
200 deca ew
50 stanz e 3 days
hgh
creatine
no2 product
adex
b-compex and b-12 ew
I have been on close to a year I wonder of I should go on pct for awhile or just blast off
I don.t think my ( ) is shut down at these lower doses?
any opinions
Even at a low does for that long you are more then likely shut down. At your age you are just pretty much going to stay on for life though right?
 
Yeah for life. I love it I just git an injury so i will cruie a lil longer and set up the blitz
Also as long as I keep cholestrol down and hemoglobin and hemotocrit levels good giving double red blood to red cross works great.
also using two or three docs to write enough to use as a decent cycle.
Just after I posted I was wondering about being shut down so I asked wife to check the size of my balls and she said that those are smaller than the last ones she had a hold of last week
so I guess some shit is goint hit the fan tonite LOL
I do throw in some hcg every two weeks I don't know if it does any good
mastro
 
I'm 50 also....

I totally believe in a cycle within a cycle....especially on the back end....I would do all the water build up shit in the begining and dry out so to speak on the back end....prop,winny var..tren a...shit that gets out of your system quickly for the rebound on your pct....

I personally think 10-12 weeks cycle's are useless...shit by the time the deca or the eq kick in your geting off...ridiculous....

But I also believe beginer's shouldn't be thinking long cycles right off the bat either...My 1st cycle's were always 16 weeks
 
That sounds pretty advanced for me....... Im still makin good off test only cycles! definatly well thought out advice though, right on needto
 
I'm 50 also....

I totally believe in a cycle within a cycle....especially on the back end....I would do all the water build up shit in the begining and dry out so to speak on the back end....prop,winny var..tren a...shit that gets out of your system quickly for the rebound on your pct....

I personally think 10-12 weeks cycle's are useless...shit by the time the deca or the eq kick in your geting off...ridiculous....

But I also believe beginer's shouldn't be thinking long cycles right off the bat either...My 1st cycle's were always 16 weeks
O yes this is by no means anything a newb should be looking at or thinking about.
 
I'm 50 also....

I totally believe in a cycle within a cycle....especially on the back end....I would do all the water build up shit in the begining and dry out so to speak on the back end....prop,winny var..tren a...shit that gets out of your system quickly for the rebound on your pct....

I personally think 10-12 weeks cycle's are useless...shit by the time the deca or the eq kick in your geting off...ridiculous....

But I also believe beginer's shouldn't be thinking long cycles right off the bat either...My 1st cycle's were always 16 weeks
AAH hell Now that I think about it something should be taken for cortisol should be taken during the cruse faze. Something like CLA and a think something like Toco-8 as well.





Bro it looks to me like you really do not plan out what you are doing in advance? thats not a good thing.
 
nice post needto, is it true that long cycles become catabloic due to release of cortisol an conversion to estrogen, wouldnt an AI stop this?

yes also do to high shbg as well. This is the point to the blast and cruse. Even running a AI the body will reach homeostasis fast. The point is to keep the balance in the green zone ( in anabolic favor) at all times. During cruising you will also be dropping bloat keeping gains most often making some, bringing the nuts back, and getting ready for the next blast. At all times you will be changing things up and confusing the body well working with the hormone loops to keep in the green zone.
 
Has anyone routinely experimented with products/aas that lower shbg while on cycle to free up more test that should cause better gains?
 
Needto...good post

peeps are finally beggining to understand. personally though I still am wary about running ANY AAS over 6 weeks. But thats just me... I actually prefer 3-4 weeks before changing compounds or getting of AAS altogether and layering in peptides or Anti_e's and cortisol inhibitors
 
What have you used? This maybe hard to tell, but did you notice any substantial differen when using supps or aas to reduce shbg?


First things that come to mind are Winstrol, Provirion and Unleashed.

Well I have used mast/monsterdrol/winny/provirnon/and unleashed all in different ways. I hate winny it kills ldl/hdl fucks up the joints and raises bp, on top of all that it hurts more to inject then any other aas I have uver used. Even more then test suspension. I would give winny a big fat F- in my grade book.

Mast is the best one to use if you are looking to use something threw out a whole cycle say like a 8-14 weeker. As I said this blast and cruse is for advanced. Using dht's for lowering shbg and other benafits is for people A little higher then the newbs kind of in the middle.

I feel proviron/monsterdrol work great at the end of a cycle or as a pree pct. they go to work fast and clear fast. There really is a lot of different ways to use them. The blast and cruse is just one way. Its one of the best ways for advanced users though.


Does it work? O fuck ya it works. Try running a test cycle say 10 weeks test-e 500mg ew. By week 10 your pretty much stop.

Now try that same cycle only push the test out to 14 weeks and start running proviron around week 8 and run it till week 15. I can bet my life your gains which would have dropped of on week 10 will keep going well into week 14. Your pct will be much more easy to.


Now take that same 10 week test cycle though and add in proviron from the start. Again I bet your gains drop off around week 8-10 and you might as well stop and do pct.


Its not about running it threw out the whole cycle. Though yes running it threw out the whole cycle will give more gains yes I am sure it will. Your gains will still stop/slow down at the same week 8-10 though. So what the point?

What it is about is running the right compounds at the right time to keep gains rolling.
 
What have you used? This maybe hard to tell, but did you notice any substantial differen when using supps or aas to reduce shbg?


First things that come to mind are Winstrol, Provirion and Unleashed.

I haven't used unleashed. But proviron and winny combo worked wonders for me. Made 500mg of test and 400mg of EQ feel like a gram + of test.
 
Fuck yeah Needto. I've been contemplating this idea for a while now. Actually the idea was sparked ever since I read DoggCrap's now famous thread "Cycles For Pennies" where he describes a similar scenario. He didn't include PCT because his Blast and Cruise is based on the idea of staying on indefinitely.
Just curious if anyone has ever tried Gaspari's "Novedex" which seems to be similar to Unleashed in that it's binds to SBHG. I would think it to be a good idea to take something like Unleashed of Proviron all the way through just to keep that S.B.H.G. in check and keep that free test flowing wine.
Anyway, great post brother Needto.
 
Yeah for life. I love it I just git an injury so i will cruie a lil longer and set up the blitz
Also as long as I keep cholestrol down and hemoglobin and hemotocrit levels good giving double red blood to red cross works great.
also using two or three docs to write enough to use as a decent cycle.
Just after I posted I was wondering about being shut down so I asked wife to check the size of my balls and she said that those are smaller than the last ones she had a hold of last week
so I guess some shit is goint hit the fan tonite LOL
I do throw in some hcg every two weeks I don't know if it does any good
mastro

Using multiple doctors can get you in real big trouble if you don't do it right. It's a federal offence to do that. I guy locally did that, it was in the paper, and the pharmacies run a computer program that compares their customers looking for just this sort of thing. I think it was a five year stretch for oxy.

I have done it in the past but you can't give them any information like your ssn or divers license number. What I did is say I had been a victim of ID theft and I don't give out that information any more. But I will pay cash up front for each vistit. When they can smell the money it's not a problem. The doctors want all that shit so they can go after you if you don't pay. But if you pay up front it doesn't matter. Just show them the money and it was just fine by them.
 
Well I have used mast/monsterdrol/winny/provirnon/and unleashed all in different ways. I hate winny it kills ldl/hdl fucks up the joints and raises bp, on top of all that it hurts more to inject then any other aas I have uver used. Even more then test suspension. I would give winny a big fat F- in my grade book.

Mast is the best one to use if you are looking to use something threw out a whole cycle say like a 8-14 weeker. As I said this blast and cruse is for advanced. Using dht's for lowering shbg and other benafits is for people A little higher then the newbs kind of in the middle.

I feel proviron/monsterdrol work great at the end of a cycle or as a pree pct. they go to work fast and clear fast. There really is a lot of different ways to use them. The blast and cruse is just one way. Its one of the best ways for advanced users though.


Does it work? O fuck ya it works. Try running a test cycle say 10 weeks test-e 500mg ew. By week 10 your pretty much stop.

Now try that same cycle only push the test out to 14 weeks and start running proviron around week 8 and run it till week 15. I can bet my life your gains which would have dropped of on week 10 will keep going well into week 14. Your pct will be much more easy to.


Now take that same 10 week test cycle though and add in proviron from the start. Again I bet your gains drop off around week 8-10 and you might as well stop and do pct.


Its not about running it threw out the whole cycle. Though yes running it threw out the whole cycle will give more gains yes I am sure it will. Your gains will still stop/slow down at the same week 8-10 though. So what the point?

What it is about is running the right compounds at the right time to keep gains rolling.

That's very interesting. I want to work in some of these methods to test the waters. This eems like it also coincides with the reasoning behind Wulfgar's short cycles and switching entirely to different aas to push through into more gains.

Great info.
 
I like it….

But.... I like the “Stay on forever” mode. I have been on for almost 2 years. I run 12-16 week “cycles” then bump down to HRT dosages for a couple months then hit it again. Coming off for me probably would not be a good idea. So far my doc is not to worried about anything outside of my use of slin (which I use very little). My cycles are pretty tame and I limit my use of orals.. Its all good!

Tao
 
Great post bro!!!!
 
As per our conversation:

Here was my next cycle plan before I decided this blast and cruse idea had a good ring to it:

1-4 750 Test C
1-4 35mg dbol ED
1-4 600 Primo

5-10 500 Test C
5-10 600 Primo
5-10 Possible Tren (I'm gunshy after my last try)

11-16 250 Test C
11-16 600 Primo
11-16 60mg Var

I'd like to set up a blast and cruse... but what could I use in place of tren. Nandrolones flare up gyno.
 
As per our conversation:

Here was my next cycle plan before I decided this blast and cruse idea had a good ring to it:

1-4 750 Test C
1-4 35mg dbol ED
1-4 600 Primo

5-10 500 Test C
5-10 600 Primo
5-10 Possible Tren (I'm gunshy after my last try)

11-16 250 Test C
11-16 600 Primo
11-16 60mg Var

I'd like to set up a blast and cruse... but what could I use in place of tren. Nandrolones flare up gyno.

When nandrolones flared up your gyno in previous cycles were you on a DHT like primo and were you using an AI?

I personally don't see a good replacement for tren as 16 straight weeks of orals isn't advisable.
 
Excellent post needto! You are the voice of knowledge on this board. I do something very similiar to this. Being a powerlifter i have to lift a certain amount of weight multiple times a year and this protocol works.

Remember, THE WEIGHTS DON'T LIE! proof enough for me.
 
As per our conversation:

Here was my next cycle plan before I decided this blast and cruse idea had a good ring to it:

1-4 750 Test C
1-4 35mg dbol ED
1-4 600 Primo

5-10 500 Test C
5-10 600 Primo
5-10 Possible Tren (I'm gunshy after my last try)

11-16 250 Test C
11-16 600 Primo
11-16 60mg Var

I'd like to set up a blast and cruse... but what could I use in place of tren. Nandrolones flare up gyno.

During the cruse you want to keep doses lower bro. I can and will lay out some other cycles. What I like about your plan here is you seem to be using primo as the base of the cycle. Lets run with that idea and I will come up with another way to cycle it.

Primo is a dht hmmmmm well really its a DHB dehydroboldenone derivative, and has little to no interaction with the 5ar enzyme.

One should take this into account when thinking about all the aspects of a blast and cruse.
 
my next cycle starting tomorow...

1-12 750mg wk sust
1-8 75mg ed tren ace
1-5 50-100mg ed anadrol

13-25 250mg wk sust (cruise)

26-? will be doing probably 8wk cycle for blitz adding another possibly 2 compounds

Will have plenty of letro, clomid, nolva, bromo in hand....
 
Can Drol be used in place of Dbol in the example cycle? Is Drol+Tren a bad combo together?

A few problems to watch out for with that combo.
drol increases blood count, tren raises bp. Sounds like some major head pain and seeing stars to me lol. Also Tren and drol is like gyno's best friend. Then again so is tren and dbol.
 
alright.
what about blasting and cruising with only test and no real plans to use anything but test.
500mgs 10-12 weeks, then 125mgs for 10-12 weeks.

MAny people do this bro. You can also add a few good otc sups to this like hcgenerate when you up the test does. to lower shbg. tlcl to up reg receptors things like this
 
awesome post mate, really great info here

thought id ask ur opinion of my next blast

currently crusing on 250mg testerone cyp every 6 days

stats 218 pounds, height 5'10, bf% 10-11

been crusing for 2 months, and will be crusing for another 5 weeks

next blast 10 weeks

testerone cyp 500mgs weekly
trenbelone acetate 60mg everyday
deca durabolin 200mg weekly (looking for joint relief mainly, not huge anabolic effect)
letro .25mg everyday, or every second day
cytomel 30mcg daily

GOALS to gain 15 pounds bodyweight, (so wanna weigh about 235 pounds at end of cycle)

and add strength

strength goals fo cycle are to add:

40kg to my deadlift (bringing me to 320kg)
50kg to my squat (bring me to 300kg)
25kg to my bench (bringing me to 190kg)

ur opinion?

looks perfectly fine to me bro. Lots of people hate on the deca tren combo but they dont even know why. Nothing wrong with it at all. Keep forma-stanzol and run it 5 pumps am and pm during the cycle bro
 
This is an old thread.

I've never been a fan of low dosing in-between cycles. Now, with SARMS and BRIDGE it can be done NOT IN THEORY -- but in reality -- by keeping the "on" felling without suppression.

I wouldn't push the SARMS beyond 50 mls for 3-4 weeks if you want to prevent slipping into suppression. But you can stay on BRIDGE indefinitely.

Add some UNLEASHED, BIG BLAST and HCGenerate and you can continue to make gains, never before naturally, no less after a cycle. Very cool.
 
thanks mate



where can i find forma-stanzol

im from australia, so if its illegal i prob got no chances of getting my hands on something like this since its not comanly available in underground labs here

and id never have a chance of getting it through customs

Its gonna be hard to get through customs mate , ill check in with you on my next trip ;)


Brad.
 
nelson... im just assuming, and you know what they say. lol. but out of curiousity and because i really take in the advice of pros like you, needto, and others on this board i have a quick question. if i just ran bridge, unleashed, and lets say post cycle year round i could possibly see some good gains if diet and workout are in line? almost like a natty stack in a way?
 
nelson... im just assuming, and you know what they say. lol. but out of curiousity and because i really take in the advice of pros like you, needto, and others on this board i have a quick question. if i just ran bridge, unleashed, and lets say post cycle year round i could possibly see some good gains if diet and workout are in line? almost like a natty stack in a way?

Of course! Keep in mind, you will be "natural" but your natural state will be enhanced. By that I mean, you'll have optimum free testosterone, and increased nitrogen retention, LH, GH and FS production. It's definitely an advantage over using nothing, but I won't lie and say you're going to make gains like you were on a gram of test.

These days the trend is toward lower doses aided with the right supplements. But if you choose to be 100% natty, you still have a big advantage like never before.
 
Of course! Keep in mind, you will be "natural" but your natural state will be enhanced. By that I mean, you'll have optimum free testosterone, and increased nitrogen retention, LH, GH and FS production. It's definitely an advantage over using nothing, but I won't lie and say you're going to make gains like you were on a gram of test.

These days the trend is toward lower doses aided with the right supplements. But if you choose to be 100% natty, you still have a big advantage like never before.

I agree on the low doses with the right supplements. Unleashed is great. Allows you to use a lower dose and feel like you are taking more!! Great stuff!
 
Of course! Keep in mind, you will be "natural" but your natural state will be enhanced. By that I mean, you'll have optimum free testosterone, and increased nitrogen retention, LH, GH and FS production. It's definitely an advantage over using nothing, but I won't lie and say you're going to make gains like you were on a gram of test.

These days the trend is toward lower doses aided with the right supplements. But if you choose to be 100% natty, you still have a big advantage like never before.

sounds great! what would you recommend for something like this? lets jsut start with say, 2 or 3 items. i really like the sound of unleashed, and... ? thanks in advance, i appreciate your help.
 
sounds great! what would you recommend for something like this? lets jsut start with say, 2 or 3 items. i really like the sound of unleashed, and... ? thanks in advance, i appreciate your help.

Just 3 items to get as big of a bang for your buck? That depends on what you want. I presume that's excluding stimulants, which obviously you would "feel." I'd say UNLEASHED (Need to Build Muscle Inc.) , BIG BLAST (available at Orbit Nutrition) and BRIDGE. That's an awesome natty stack that'll give a nice advantage.
 
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Just 3 items to get as big of a bang for your buck? That depends on what you want. I presume that's excluding stimulants, which obviously you would "feel." I'd say UNLEASHED (Need to Build Muscle Inc.) , BIG BLAST (available at The Best Bodybuilding Supplements including Gaspari Novedex xt, Lipo 6x and BSN) and BRIDGE. That's an awesome natty stack that'll give a nice advantage.

Yep thats a killer stack there , give your self the best to get the best .

Brad.
 
Damn, nothing but great reads, killer thread!

I see shit has really changed lol.

I see a lot of promising new products out there, props Need2, Nelson, and all the new sponsors, some of which I have already placed orders with, on some very promising looking products and information I absolutely cant wait to try for myself!

I also see EF is bigger and badder than ever. I have learned so much here in the past couple of years, this place has always been my fave. Great to see some familiar names still around, feels good to be back!
 
Damn, nothing but great reads, killer thread!

I see shit has really changed lol.

I see a lot of promising new products out there, props Need2, Nelson, and all the new sponsors, some of which I have already placed orders with, on some very promising looking products and information I absolutely cant wait to try for myself!

I also see EF is bigger and badder than ever. I have learned so much here in the past couple of years, this place has always been my fave. Great to see some familiar names still around, feels good to be back!
great to have you back bro
 
Just 3 items to get as big of a bang for your buck? That depends on what you want. I presume that's excluding stimulants, which obviously you would "feel." I'd say UNLEASHED (Need to Build Muscle Inc.) , BIG BLAST (available at Orbit Nutrition) and BRIDGE. That's an awesome natty stack that'll give a nice advantage.

yeah, thats what i meant. sorry, didnt realize it was so broad until i just re read it now. thanks for all your advice, its really helpful. i want to save my shredder stack and see if i can do any more with some natty help. i use big blast as it is, a multi, fish oil, and glutamine regularly. so im just trying to add in some items that might give me that edge. and the added labido help wouldnt be bad either! :p the unleashed is what i wanted to try anyway, so that makes sense. what about post cycle to go with it, or hcgenerate? or would bridge be the best bang for my buck? im just trying to cut up and get stronger, nothing too fancy. thanks again, i really appreciate all the input!
 
Wonder why I never read this before???

What i'm doing now is hrt 8-10 weeks then full cycle about 12-14 weeks then back to hrt. I usually change my cycle about midway but i never did the 3 weeks low intensity criuse. Try that on my next run I think.

Good shit even if it's old shit needto :D
 
Wonder why I never read this before???

What i'm doing now is hrt 8-10 weeks then full cycle about 12-14 weeks then back to hrt. I usually change my cycle about midway but i never did the 3 weeks low intensity criuse. Try that on my next run I think.

Good shit even if it's old shit needto :D

:heart::heart:
 
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