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Bro's we have to be careful

there are people who have been 21 on here for like the past 3 years lol. they never seem to age. a real shame they don't have the patience to wait, it will catch up to them in time.

really you do not fully develop into men till you are in your late 20's IMHO. you see guys at the gym who are teens or early 20's benching 85 pounds.. and then you see guys in their 40's benching 450. the younger guys just don't any base or development, even the stronger ones.. and they do not go through the motions correctly.. no warmup, poor form, doing more weight than they should.. the older guys you can tell have been at it for years on end and have built a solid base.

steroids will not make you catch up in experience, you've got to put in the sweat and tears like everyone else.

I see your point bro. Also agree with you on almost everything younsay. A lot of guys have no base and look for steroids to magically move weight for them. I did competitive powerlifting since 14. I have a pretty decent base. My past 12 months have been geared toward the transition to bodybuilding. I like it a lot. Kids are starting to lift more and more and physical appearance is way more important now than ever before. I think a lot of younger guys have a nice solid foundation and are ready for that step after 21. I know lifting and the science behind lifting, I know gear. Diet is by far the hardest monster!
 
Great post. Nice experiences as well. Posts like this are the kinds of things that keep me coming back here everyday. I know if I ask a question I'm gonna get honest opinions and knowledgeable answers. This is a stan up community for sure.

And for the record the guys who think steroids make you magically stronger like your body has no choice but to get jacked is ridiculous. The main part has got to be diet. That is the cornerstone. I did one joke of a cycle when I was in high school. Quit halfway through it luckily because I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't do my first real one till I was 32, just this past year. That as I look at it the beat type of path. Maybe not for all guys but around that age is when I feel you are ready to reach new heights, if you so choose with joose.

I hope the EF guys keep solid and keep this thing going for many many more years to come.
 
its true good bros. i did the very same thing. 18 a dude i knew gave me some free shit that someone gave him. i was in an experimental stage so i took it. popping abombs like pez, shooting 1 ml of test every day. never heard of pct, hell i left the anadrol in the washroom and ate one every time i took a piss or brushed my teeth. needless to say i felt like shit for 2 years, and at 20 had gyno surgery when i got tired of having tits. also lost a good chunk of hair on my forehead. so if u dont want to be a big titty bald dude avoid this shit till u know what ur doing in the gym, diet wise. u been liftin for years, you know the anatomy of the body, and everything about steroids and pct inside and out. which takes years!!!!
 
Great post. Nice experiences as well. Posts like this are the kinds of things that keep me coming back here everyday. I know if I ask a question I'm gonna get honest opinions and knowledgeable answers. This is a stan up community for sure.

And for the record the guys who think steroids make you magically stronger like your body has no choice but to get jacked is ridiculous. The main part has got to be diet. That is the cornerstone. I did one joke of a cycle when I was in high school. Quit halfway through it luckily because I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't do my first real one till I was 32, just this past year. That as I look at it the beat type of path. Maybe not for all guys but around that age is when I feel you are ready to reach new heights, if you so choose with joose.

I hope the EF guys keep solid and keep this thing going for many many more years to come.

Nicely stated bro!
 
no offense but u guys telling me or another not to do something means nothing for the most part. like most kids right. there some real life, no BS exp of how lack of knowledge will mess u up. for you kids out there, u dont know how bad it feels to be shutdown for years! u got all u need in your body. ppl take juice to replicate what u already got. all u need to know is how to eat and how to train and u will grow like a weed. if u dont know how to eat train. ur gonna mess urself up, and once to stop juicing u will lose any gains made. bottom line. the only thing that gets u what u want is hard work and years and years of training. its not a summer fix
 
I am glad we have a mature audience in this very important thread, its up to all of us in here and others to educate and be watchful of the young ones out there and in here on EF.
Many good points in here...
Lets keep this important issue going to help each other as well.
Great job everyone!!!
 
I am glad we have a mature audience in this very important thread, its up to all of us in here and others to educate and be watchful of the young ones out there and in here on EF.
Many good points in here...
Lets keep this important issue going to help each other as well.
Great job everyone!!!

I agree...shows what a great place we have here!
 
its true good bros. i did the very same thing. 18 a dude i knew gave me some free shit that someone gave him. i was in an experimental stage so i took it. popping abombs like pez, shooting 1 ml of test every day. never heard of pct, hell i left the anadrol in the washroom and ate one every time i took a piss or brushed my teeth. needless to say i felt like shit for 2 years, and at 20 had gyno surgery when i got tired of having tits. also lost a good chunk of hair on my forehead. so if u dont want to be a big titty bald dude avoid this shit till u know what ur doing in the gym, diet wise. u been liftin for years, you know the anatomy of the body, and everything about steroids and pct inside and out. which takes years!!!!

its always a friend who thinks he is cool that goes around handing out roids to his friends.

a close buddy of mine did deca at 20..no PCT, no nothing... he got gyno from it and now at 30 has bitch tits. not a bad case but still, and the thing is he recommended deca to someone else even after it gave him gyno. the point is friends will tell friends to take AAS and not even mention the drawbacks.
 
Thats the thing. Some younger guys have already made up their minds. They are going to do AAS no matter what we say, However, we(I) have to give them our best shot. The same shot that was given us. If that means a simple"you are too young, wait" then so be it. I deal with this everyday with addicts. Far too often the message falls on deaf ears. But its that one, one person we might persuade. Until that person walks around with a big sign saying"here I am!", I have to assume it is everybody.
 
a guy asked at the Gym yesterday where to get Anadrol , the kid is freaking 14yr old and doesnt weight more 110lbs soaked and wet , I explained the consecuences this could bring to his life and he was freaking out when tI mention erectile disfunction ...
he'll wait until he's 21 !!!! .. again they are so impacient shit is taking me years to get to get I'm at right now.................................
 
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