Bridging

[the_alcatraz]

No one claimed that bridging will allow FULL HPTA recovery. No one stated that bridging will not suppress you.

If you read my article, I state that bridging is only to be used by advanced bodybuilders, where maintaining muscle mass is more important than a full HPTA recovery at THAT time.

Run 200-300mg of Primo with 50mg Proviron and BOOM; you are bridging EFFECTIVELY. Such a bridge will allow you to remain in a highly anabolic state while having a minimal influence on the HPTA. Of course, full HPTA recovery while still on any compound is virtually impossible.

Maintaining gains is ALL about Proper PCT and diet. I've never lost more than 10-15% of what I gained during a cycle because my diet is in check and my PCT is spot-on.

You don't need to stay ON to maintain gains. That is simply not good advice at all bro...I honestly disagree with your theory of BRIDGING....and supression, possibly permanently for staying ON so long is not worth the hassle....

In my opinion, whatever you're doing that you are trying to qualify as not on, because the term bridging means that you are not on, is useless...it does more harm than gain, so it's not worth it...IMO telling someone to stay ON is bad advice.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Ross hit the spot. No one ever said bridging was not supressive. Call it what you want bridging or crusing. It is used between cycles in order to stay on while not being as supressed as on a higher dosed cycle.

I can't beleive people get so uspet about this topic LOL!

Shit I am starting to get angry HA HA, better lower the masteron dose!

no one disagree with this either...this is a very general statement.

All I disgree on is that bridging is ON! You are still ON, so why call it bridging. You are not bridging between cycles, you are ON a cycle, because even the slightest use of aas means you're ON.

So this is bridging?

Huge cycle, small cycle, huge cycle, small cycle...for like a year, and you are saying you will not be supressed very much?

How is that possible?

After the first huge cycle, you will be supressed and you need proper extended PCT to fully recover, going into a small cycle (because bridging is beind ON) will further supress you, regardless of the dosages....this is why people are getting upset, because they see that the harm outweighs the benefit.

 

[smtimelevi]

no one disagree with this either...this is a very general statement.

All I disgree on is that bridging is ON! You are still ON, so why call it bridging. You are not bridging between cycles, you are ON a cycle, because even the slightest use of aas means you're ON.

So this is bridging?

Huge cycle, small cycle, huge cycle, small cycle...for like a year, and you are saying you will not be supressed very much?

How is that possible?

After the first huge cycle, you will be supressed and you need proper extended PCT to fully recover, going into a small cycle (because bridging is beind ON) will further supress you, regardless of the dosages....this is why people are getting upset, because they see that the harm outweighs the benefit.

folks say bridging because its a smaller temporary span between to larger bodies. Ya know like a bridge. Just terminology dudski.

Actual recovrey is questionable

If you just alternate steroids and doses its not a cycle, its a constant. If you are constantly bridging between "cycles" then there is no cycle.

 

[the_alcatraz]

folks say bridging because its a smaller temporary span between to larger bodies. Ya know like a bridge. Just terminology dudski.

Actual recovrey is questionable

If you just alternate steroids and doses its not a cycle, its a constant. If you are constantly bridging between "cycles" then there is no cycle.

Are you kidding me bro?

Offcourse it's a cycle. It's just a really long cycle. He cant stay on his entire life...folks who "bridge" need to understand that they are ON and they will be supressed, possibly permanantly

 

[iceman7230]

no one disagree with this either...this is a very general statement.

All I disgree on is that bridging is ON! You are still ON, so why call it bridging. You are not bridging between cycles, you are ON a cycle, because even the slightest use of aas means you're ON.

So this is bridging?

Huge cycle, small cycle, huge cycle, small cycle...for like a year, and you are saying you will not be supressed very much?

How is that possible?

After the first huge cycle, you will be supressed and you need proper extended PCT to fully recover, going into a small cycle (because bridging is beind ON) will further supress you, regardless of the dosages....this is why people are getting upset, because they see that the harm outweighs the benefit.

You are making this more complicated than it is bro. I personally am on hrt so I will be supressed for ever so in between cycles I go low doses so I am not supressed as much.

As for someone like yourself that wants to go on and off with pct the shorter cycles will be beneficial so you do not get supresses as much(as you probably already know, I hope). That way it is easier to recover.

For people who want to stay on longer cycles and bridge(cruise) so they are not getting the bad sides of staying on big cycles for long periods of time it can be benificial to bridge.

I am not recommending this to anyone, I am just saying the longer you stay on big cycles the harder on your body. These so called bridges will make it less stressful on your body if you are going to stay on longer cycles.

Comprede amigo?

 

[the_alcatraz]

You are making this more complicated than it is bro. I personally am on hrt so I will be supressed for ever so in between cycles I go low doses so I am not supressed as much.

As for someone like yourself that wants to go on and off with pct the shorter cycles will be beneficial so you do not get supresses as much(as you probably already know, I hope). That way it is easier to recover.

For people who want to stay on longer cycles and bridge(cruise) so they are not getting the bad sides of staying on big cycles for long periods of time it can be benificial to bridge.

I am not recommending this to anyone, I am just saying the longer you stay on big cycles the harder on your body. These so called bridges will make it less stressful on your body if you are going to stay on longer cycles.

Comprede amigo?

Like I said already, going from a very supressive cycle to a "bridge" (what you call a less supressive cycle with less sides) will not get you unsupressed...because you're already supressed from the long and very supressive cycle, so you'll need a full active recovery PCT or you risk being supressed for good...

Everything you are saying is accurate, except for the fact that what you're calling a bridge, i.e. cruise will supress you still and doing it between two highly-supressive cycles just means you will be supressed throughout and risk being supressed for good.

I'd also appreciate if you didn't talk to me in a condescending tone, comprende me amigo?

 

[Wrongun]

As i said on page 1 you are either on or off cycle end of story. The size of the cycle is irrelevant

Wrongun!

 

[EPROM]

Two scenarios:

(1) BodyBuilder "A": This person does two 12 week cycles per year and bridges between cycles (Jan-Feb-Mar = On Cycle, April-May-June = Bridge, July-August-September = On Cycle, October-November-December = Bridge).

(2) BodyBuilder "B": This person does three 12 week cycles per year and does not bridge between cycles, but instead uses standard PCT (Jan-Feb-Mar = On Cycle, April-May = Off Cycle/PCT, June-July-August = On Cycle, September-October - Off Cycle/PCT, November-December-January = On Cycle).

...Both are dangerous, but which bodybuilder is doing the most "potential" damage to his HPTA? Is a shortened PCT period between three large cycles better or worse than a low-dose bridge between two large cycles?

Birdman

 

[iceman7230]

Like I said already, going from a very supressive cycle to a "bridge" (what you call a less supressive cycle with less sides) will not get you unsupressed...because you're already supressed from the long and very supressive cycle, so you'll need a full active recovery PCT or you risk being supressed for good...

Everything you are saying is accurate, except for the fact that what you're calling a bridge, i.e. cruise will supress you still and doing it between two highly-supressive cycles just means you will be supressed throughout and risk being supressed for good.

I'd also appreciate if you didn't talk to me in a condescending tone, comprende me amigo?

I am not trying to be condecending to you at all. I am trying to educate people what a so called bridge is used for. You were saying you did not understand and I was only explaining how they work.

I know you will probably never use a bridge because you do pct's.

I do not do pct's because I am on doctor prescribed hrt and do not need them.

I appreciate your disscusion with me and the boards and am not trying to offend you, just letting you know what I know and trying to explain to you my ideas. I don't know what you know or how much you know. It seems like we both know one is going to be supressed on a bridge.

It's all good bro, right?

 

[the_alcatraz]

As i said on page 1 you are either on or off cycle end of story. The size of the cycle is irrelevant

Wrongun!

+1

That's pretty much the deal right there.