Bridging

[the_alcatraz]

Two scenarios:

(1) BodyBuilder "A": This person does two 12 week cycles per year and bridges between cycles (Jan-Feb-Mar = On Cycle, April-May-June = Bridge, July-August-September = On Cycle, October-November-December = Bridge).

(2) BodyBuilder "B": This person does three 12 week cycles per year and does not bridge between cycles, but instead uses standard PCT (Jan-Feb-Mar = On Cycle, April-May = Off Cycle/PCT, June-July-August = On Cycle, September-October - Off Cycle/PCT, November-December-January = On Cycle).

...Both are dangerous, but which bodybuilder is doing the most "potential" damage to his HPTA? Is a shortened PCT period between three large cycles better or worse than a low-dose bridge between two large cycles?

Birdman

Both will be very supressed, simply because your definition of a bridge is a small cylcle after a very supressive cycle, not having done PCT, which means he will not take time off to get his HPTA back in full gear, so he will build on a very supressed HPTA and therefore become more supressed.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I am not trying to be condecending to you at all. I am trying to educate people what a so called bridge is used for. You were saying you did not understand and I was only explaining how they work.

I know you will probably never use a bridge because you do pct's.

I do not do pct's because I am on doctor prescribed hrt and do not need them.

I appreciate your disscusion with me and the boards and am not trying to offend you, just letting you know what I know and trying to explain to you my ideas. I don't know what you know or how much you know. It seems like we both know one is going to be supressed on a bridge.

It's all good bro, right?

The entire notion of a bridge is to continue running aas at a low dose before you hit a heavy cycle. So in a sense, you are not OFF at all nor are you giving your HPTA a break because you are not coming off or recovering...even very low dosages will supress you, no not as much as high dosages, but when you're already supressed from the last cycle, and you continue with low dosages, you will be even more supressed.

I find it weird that people think a bridge is a tmime to recover. You need a full PCT to recover. A bridge is simply not enough. You need to be OFF completely.

And offcourse we're cool. There are no hard feelings. This is a discussion and as long as it's respectful and there is no flaming, then it's all good.

 

[smtimelevi]

The entire notion of a bridge is to continue running aas at a low dose before you hit a heavy cycle. So in a sense, you are not OFF at all nor are you giving your HPTA a break because you are not coming off or recovering...even very low dosages will supress you, no not as much as high dosages, but when you're already supressed from the last cycle, and you continue with low dosages, you will be even more supressed.

I find it weird that people think a bridge is a tmime to recover. You need a full PCT to recover. A bridge is simply not enough. You need to be OFF completely.

And offcourse we're cool. There are no hard feelings. This is a discussion and as long as it's respectful and there is no flaming, then it's all good.

For sure!

I just hope people dont think they are going to recover by taking primo for 8 weeks after 4 months of test and deca. The vets know this! The newbs dont, that the problem. Some roid fiend that is scared of loosing his gains hears "bride" and thinks "you mean I can stay on and recover" Thats all bad. It needs to be known that this is dobutful at best.

Only reason I would see a bridge to be logical is if a user plans to stay on indefinately and is attempting to save money and doesnt care about their nuts.

 

[Ross]

Maintaining gains is ALL about Proper PCT and diet. I've never lost more than 10-15% of what I gained during a cycle because my diet is in check and my PCT is spot-on.

You don't need to stay ON to maintain gains. That is simply not good advice at all bro...I honestly disagree with your theory of BRIDGING....and supression, possibly permanently for staying ON so long is not worth the hassle....

In my opinion, whatever you're doing that you are trying to qualify as not on, because the term bridging means that you are not on, is useless...it does more harm than gain, so it's not worth it...IMO telling someone to stay ON is bad advice.

No offense bro, but your current level of muscular development does not REQUIRE that you run a bridge. You have not surpassed your natural limit enough yet for you to require a bridge in order to maintain muscle mass and strength year-round. You are still an INTERMEDIATE bodybuilder.

Bridging is for advanced bros like ME who REQUIRE bridging occasionally in order to remain so far beyond our natural limits.

 

[Nelson Montana]

No offense bro, but your current level of muscular development does not REQUIRE that you run a bridge. You have not surpassed your natural limit enough yet in order to require a bridge in order to maintain muscle mass and strength year-round. You are still an INTERMEDIATE bodybuilder.

Bridging is for advanced bros like ME who REQUIRE bridging occasionally in order to remain so far beyond our natural limits.

Uh oh, thems are fightin' words.

At any rate, I don't think Al'z point has to do with his development. And I'm not sure what makes Ross so advanced. And the whole thing sounds like a bunch of rationalizing. An advanced bodybuilder should actually be able to hold on to his development BETTER. Bridging is simply wanting to be in a heightened anabolic state. You can call it cruising, coasting, sliding, skiing, sloping, transitioning, puddle jumping, gliding or a pastrami sandwich. YOU'RE ON!

 

[Ross]

Uh oh, thems are fightin' words.

At any rate, I don't think Al'z point has to do with his development. And I'm not sure what makes Ross so advanced. And the whole thing sounds like a bunch of rationalizing. An advanced bodybuilder should actually be able to hold on to his development BETTER. Bridging is simply wanting to be in a heightened anabolic state. You can call it cruising, coasting, sliding, skiing, sloping, transitioning, puddle jumping, gliding or a pastrami sandwich. YOU'RE ON!

Bridging is for ADVANCED bodybuilders with extensive cycling experience. Once you reach a certain size, there is NO PCT that will keep you THAT SIZE! Plain and simple.

When I had only a few cycles under my belt, I would KEEP ALL OF MY GAINS with a standard PCT(Clomid/Adex). Once I became so muscular beyond my natural capacities, I started to require bridging throughout the year, during time which would normally be completely OFF.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Bridging is for ADVANCED bodybuilders with extensive cycling experience. Once you reach a certain size, there is NO PCT that will keep you THAT SIZE! Plain and simple.

When I had only a few cycles under my belt, I would KEEP ALL OF MY GAINS with a standard PCT(Clomid/Adex). Once I became so muscular beyond my natural capacities, I started to require bridging throughout the year, during time which would normally be completely OFF.

I don't disagree. But it' being "on." I don;t get why this is such a debate.

 

[needtogetaas]

The entire notion of a bridge is to continue running aas at a low dose before you hit a heavy cycle. So in a sense, you are not OFF at all nor are you giving your HPTA a break because you are not coming off or recovering...even very low dosages will supress you, no not as much as high dosages, but when you're already supressed from the last cycle, and you continue with low dosages, you will be even more supressed.

I find it weird that people think a bridge is a tmime to recover. You need a full PCT to recover. A bridge is simply not enough. You need to be OFF completely.

And offcourse we're cool. There are no hard feelings. This is a discussion and as long as it's respectful and there is no flaming, then it's all good.

At a pro level yes bro most of them do need to "Stay on" bridge cruise what every you want to call it.


Sadly ross is not at this level ether. And for him to say you are not at a level where you need to do this yet and he is. Well thats a complement to you bro. After all You are 3 times as big as he is. He is a tiny bit more ripped up in some of his pics, but non the less you have 3 times the muscle mass he does.

Ross should play nice.

 

[Ross]

At a pro level yes bro most of them do need to "Stay on" bridge cruise what every you want to call it.


Sadly ross is not at this level ether. And for him to say you are not at a level where you need to do this yet and he is. Well thats a complement to you bro. After all You are 3 times as big as he is. He is a tiny bit more ripped up in some of his pics, but non the less you have 3 times the muscle mass he does.

Ross should play nice.

You are kidding me, right bro?

As I said, it was no offense to Alcatraz, but to say he is at my level of development is just silly Need2 my man.

I'll have to get some new pics up

 

[the_alcatraz]

For sure!

I just hope people dont think they are going to recover by taking primo for 8 weeks after 4 months of test and deca. The vets know this! The newbs dont, that the problem. Some roid fiend that is scared of loosing his gains hears "bride" and thinks "you mean I can stay on and recover" Thats all bad. It needs to be known that this is dobutful at best.

Only reason I would see a bridge to be logical is if a user plans to stay on indefinately and is attempting to save money and doesnt care about their nuts.

Good, so we agree.