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if i have to get wasted one night a week and i lift monday tuesday thursday friday

what day is the best?

would it be a friday after working out, or saturday when there is no working out?

how fat will i get and how bad will it hamper muscle growth.

for real, is the affect on muscle growth really bad? should i just get wasted once every 2 weeks? or once a month with my pizza
 
i read a study once where the presence of ethanol was shown to reduce protein synthesis by 50%. however this was a lab type test and it was on raw protein synthesis itself, and extrapolating it to include muscle tissue, while instinctively logical, isnt 100% assured

translation: muscle growth will probably slow down during those hours that youre drunk.

if i were you i would drink on workout days, on an empty stomach. this gives you maximum effect for minumum alcohol (and therefore minumum alcohol side effects, calories etc)

oh. if you do decide to drink and train, be aware that alcohol screws up your water retention system, and so you will be bloated for a while after you drink with extracellular water - up to 3lbs of it. so dont be surrised when youre heavy on the scales, and look soft

that being sai, i think its impotant to do, unless you want to use 1-bunandiol or something instead
 
drink on friday

workout early that day. Load up on calories between working out and drinking.

If it does effect you they would be unnoticable. Make sure to hydrate the whole weekend to be fresh on monday.
 
don't drink at all bro, smoke weed and do coke instead.
 
UA_Iron said:
drink on friday

workout early that day. Load up on calories between working out and drinking.

If it does effect you they would be unnoticable. Make sure to hydrate the whole weekend to be fresh on monday.
is like 3 ocklock early enough to workout?

and is once a week good?
 
lol at you already starting to ask about drinking once/week when you told me you wouldn't do that in college. I love ya sub. now you're a real college boy!
 
dude all the meatheads in college go to the bar like 5 times a week. what's the point in getting huge if you can't go out and show it off. Just get drinks like bourbon/rum and diet coke to maximize drunkeness for your cals
 
nimbus said:
dude all the meatheads in college go to the bar like 5 times a week. what's the point in getting huge if you can't go out and show it off. Just get drinks like bourbon/rum and diet coke to maximize drunkeness for your cals

Agree.

Just drink. Do you really want to go through college living like a fucking nun? Leave the mental stress for your exams and indulge yourself. Most if not all of us are recreational "athletes" that spend a few hours in the gym and pay abit of attention to our diets so we don't resemble a bag of shite. No one's paying you milions a year to look good or keep such a physique for top level sports.

Take advantage of your body now in your late teen / 20s when you can handle it best.

Work hard. Play hard.
 
if you're natty (no roids) alcohol lowers test production, so best nite would probably be sat nite based on your schedule.

I drink coors light or any other lite beer - gets you just as drunk with not alot of calories.

p.s. 1 nite of drinking a week is probably good for your cardiovascular system based on latest studies.
 
Lestat said:
don't drink at all bro, smoke weed and do coke instead.
the good herb is the best choice between the three... by far...
...alcohol may be the worst... especialy if you are worried about getting fat...
but if you are a hardgainer... stay away from the yayo...
 
Mavafanculo said:
if you're natty (no roids) alcohol lowers test production, so best nite would probably be sat nite based on your schedule.

I drink coors light or any other lite beer - gets you just as drunk with not alot of calories.

p.s. 1 nite of drinking a week is probably good for your cardiovascular system based on latest studies.
this true??? tnx
 
Sub sweety live a little you wont regret it if you keep a tight ship the rest of the week you should enjoy life on Saturday you deserve it :)
 
wrong fuckin forum
 
SublimeZM said:
if i have to get wasted one night a week and i lift monday tuesday thursday friday

what day is the best?

would it be a friday after working out, or saturday when there is no working out?

how fat will i get and how bad will it hamper muscle growth.

for real, is the affect on muscle growth really bad? should i just get wasted once every 2 weeks? or once a month with my pizza

Since I started drinking once a week on average, I've gained a few pounds. I don't recommend it though. This week I'm gonna skip. I didn't feel good Monday and had to stop my workout before aerobics. May have been due to drinking on Saturday. I hate taking chances, don't want to diminish my decapitation skills.
 
Mavafanculo said:
if you're natty (no roids) alcohol lowers test production, so best nite would probably be sat nite based on your schedule.

I drink coors light or any other lite beer - gets you just as drunk with not alot of calories.

p.s. 1 nite of drinking a week is probably good for your cardiovascular system based on latest studies.

Dude. You should be arrested for this post. First of all, Lite beer has less alcohol so you have to drink more to get the same effect. Secondly, you didn't specify as to how much drinking is good for your cardiovascular system. Certainly not 6 or more drinks which is easily what most people here probably drink. Maybe 2 or 3 at the most might have a beneficial effect. Thirdly, your biggest cardinal sin is in using the word 'natty'. I'm sorry, but I''m gonna have to decapitate you.
 
Mav got pwned


biteme said:
Dude. You should be arrested for this post. First of all, Lite beer has less alcohol so you have to drink more to get the same effect. Secondly, you didn't specify as to how much drinking is good for your cardiovascular system. Certainly not 6 or more drinks which is easily what most people here probably drink. Maybe 2 or 3 at the most might have a beneficial effect. Thirdly, your biggest cardinal sin is in using the word 'natty'. I'm sorry, but I''m gonna have to decapitate you.
 
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drink Friday AND saturday... live man... its not gonna kill ya that much and its a hella lot more fun then eating bland food
 
biteme said:
Dude. You should be arrested for this post. First of all, Lite beer has less alcohol so you have to drink more to get the same effect. Secondly, you didn't specify as to how much drinking is good for your cardiovascular system. Certainly not 6 or more drinks which is easily what most people here probably drink. Maybe 2 or 3 at the most might have a beneficial effect. Thirdly, your biggest cardinal sin is in using the word 'natty'. I'm sorry, but I''m gonna have to decapitate you.
:rolleyes:

1) regular to lite, most brands have 10-15% less alcohol per ml, but half the carbohydrates. ie Less calories for same level of intoxication. (stated differently, at any given level of intoxication, less carbs will have been consumed)

2) "moderate drinkiing" = 3 or 4 drinks depending on which study. thats about 36-48 oz beer. plenty to get you buzzed if you're not a lush.

Possible Health Benefits of Alcohol

Cardiovascular Disease

More than 100 prospective studies show an inverse association between moderate drinking and risk of heart attack, ischemic (clot-caused) stroke, peripheral vascular disease, sudden cardiac death, and death from all cardiovascular causes.(4) The effect is fairly consistent, corresponding to a 25-40% reduction in risk. Results of some of the largest of these are summarized in Table 1.

The connection between moderate drinking and lower risk of cardiovascular disease has been observed in men and women. It applies to people who do not apparently have heart disease. It also applies to those at high risk for having a heart attack or stroke or dying of cardiovascular disease - people with type 2 diabetes (5) and those with high blood pressure, angina (chest pain), a prior heart attack, or other forms of cardiovascular disease.(5-8)

The idea that moderate drinking protects against cardiovascular disease is biologically and scientifically plausible. Moderate amounts of alcohol raise levels of high-density lipoprotein (HDL, or "good" cholesterol),(6) and higher HDL levels are associated with greater protection against heart disease. Moderate alcohol consumption has also been linked with beneficial changes in a variety of factors that influence blood clotting, such as tissue type plasminogen activator, fibrinogen, clotting factor VII, and von Willebrand factor.(6) Such changes would tend to prevent the formation of small blood clots that can block arteries in the heart, neck, and brain, the ultimate cause of many heart attacks and the most common kind of stroke.


References

4. Goldberg IJ, Mosca L, Piano MR, Fisher EA. AHA Science Advisory: Wine and your heart: a science advisory for healthcare professionals from the Nutrition Committee, Council on Epidemiology and Prevention, and Council on Cardiovascular Nursing of the American Heart Association. Circulation 2001; 103:472-5.



4. Goldberg IJ, Mosca L, Piano MR, Fisher EA. AHA Science Advisory: Wine and your heart: a science advisory for healthcare professionals from the Nutrition Committee, Council on Epidemiology and Prevention, and Council on Cardiovascular Nursing of the American Heart Association. Circulation 2001; 103:472-5.

5. Ajani UA, Hennekens CH, Spelsberg A, Manson JE. Alcohol consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes mellitus among US male physicians. Arch Intern Med 2000; 160:1025-30.

6. Camargo CA, Jr., Stampfer MJ, Glynn RJ, et al. Prospective study of moderate alcohol consumption and risk of peripheral arterial disease in US male physicians. Circulation 1997; 95:577-80

7. Camargo CA, Jr., Stampfer MJ, Glynn RJ, et al. Moderate alcohol consumption and risk for angina pectoris or myocardial infarction in U.S. male physicians. Ann Intern Med 1997; 126:372-5.

8. Malinski MK, Sesso HD, Lopez-Jimenez F, Buring JE, Gaziano JM. Alcohol consumption and cardiovascular disease mortality in hypertensive men. Arch Intern Med 2004; 164:623-8.

9. Rimm EB, Williams P, Fosher K, Criqui M, Stampfer MJ. Moderate alcohol intake and lower risk of coronary heart disease: meta-analysis of effects on lipids and haemostatic factors. BMJ 1999; 319:1523-8.




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Mavafanculo said:
1) regular to lite, most brands have 10-15% less alcohol % per ml, but half the carbohydrates. ie Less calories for same level of intoxication.


How can lite beer give the same level of intoxication when you clearly stated here that it has 10-15% less alcohol.

Note that some regular beers such as Icehouse and Bud Ice are 5.5%

http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
 
bran987 said:
you mean actually getting wasted? or having a drink

see above ^^ moderate drinking = 3 or 4 = buzzed not trashed. I would imagine that after that the risks outweigh the benefits (liver, increased BP, etc)
 
SublimeZM said:
this true??? tnx

Research has demonstrated that both acute and chronic alcohol exposure are associated with low levels of hypothalamic LHRH and pituitary LH in the adult (Cicero 1982; Salonen et al. 1992) and pubertal male rat, and further studies have suggested that alcohol inhibits testosterone secretion by the testes as well (Little et al. 1992).


http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-4/282-287.htm

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gjohnson5 said:
How can lite beer give the same level of intoxication when you clearly stated here that it has 10-15% less alcohol.

Note that some regular beers such as Icehouse and Bud Ice are 5.5%

http://www.realbeer.com/edu/health/calories.php
the way he should have said it is this:

a regular bud has 150 calories, and would be like 5% alcohol content.

a bud lite has 100 calories, and a 10% lower alcohol content which means it's still 4.5% alcohol content.

33% fewer calories and only 10% less alcohol = better choice.

of course, hard liquor such as vodka/rum offers the best carb to alcohol ratio.

there you'll get what is equal to the alcohol in a full beer for only 60 calories.
 
this prob. isn't smart but on days i drink i dont eat anything after 12 pm.. i usually drink .750 ml of some type of alcohol before i even leave the house to go out (pregame). i dunno if its cause i have a high tolerance or cause i weigh like 235.. but i seem to have a very high fucken tolerance... i never workout when i'm hungover.. usually if i need to workout ill sleep in late.. wake up drink a gallon of water then go run my ass off.. come back chill all day then go do a workout at like 10 pm at night..

this was me at the end of my freshman year in college.. living in the dorms..

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taken about a year and a half ago

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took this one last month..

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bran987 said:
the way he should have said it is this:

a regular bud has 150 calories, and would be like 5% alcohol content.

a bud lite has 100 calories, and a 10% lower alcohol content which means it's still 4.5% alcohol content.

33% fewer calories and only 10% less alcohol = better choice. .

show off lol.
 
imagine the difference in my drinking habits from then till now not to mention i was playing college baseball and absolutely running my ass off 2 a days..
 
Phaded said:
imagine the difference in my drinking habits from then till now not to mention i was playing college baseball and absolutely running my ass off 2 a days..
so ur saying not eating after 12 pm and then running the morning after helped u that much?
 
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