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Blood Tests In...Still Shut Down?

liftr486 said:
golden, my volume isnt that much, it seems to have decreased


Something is wrong with you. Is the doc that orders these tests treating you or is he just doing tests? This may or may not be related to your prior cycles, as DRJMW suggests there could be a problem with your prolactin levels. This could be caused the prior tren/deca usage OR other causes (prolactin secreting tumor). High prolactin levels will all but destroy libido and test levels. You aren't going to find a solution on this board...
 
goldendelicious, you seem to truly be an expert on this site and I have more respect for your knowledge than anybody else here. Let me ask you a stupid question. Is there any roid that exists that will leave you will no side effects(hair loss, sex drive, blood pressure). Let's take for example Anavar at 20mg/week. What would you expect to see in terms of sides from this amount/week. I especially am concerned with the heart and complications from steroids both now and in the future. By the way, what about GH, what are you thoughts on risk/rewards of a GH only cycle?
 
psychedout said:
I dunno what to say about being shut down, but while you are, i'd try for a HRT script.

Bro, if he does HRT, then he will NEVER recover, the HRT is to replace his natural production. So if he gets on HRT, it would be for LIFE.

People dont think of HRT as a legal way to get gear. If you are not 35+, this really is not the best option for you. If you are older than that, and have this problem, it might be worth considering, just know you are making a life long decision.
 
drjmw, i dun kno if my insurance will let me get another blood test so soon after my last one...would it be bad for me to take a low dose of dostinex ne way..and could i jus stay on the clomid for a little longer to try and get my levels back up and hopefully reagin some sort of libido?? i have a lot of both at my house...ill post my ultrasound results tomorrow...
 
hang on, whoa calm down with calling people expert and talking glowingly about them too much. your only allowed to do that if youre in my state, blonde, hot, and a nympho :D

liftr486: drmjw made two critical points- the one about prolactin, you should adress. the one about your testo reading actually being close to your normal is also very important, and you could only guage that by seeing if you have any symptoms of being hypo (not being horny is one of them). you having decreased testicular volume implies that you might have problems with getting enough testicular tissue to actually produce enough testo.

look at this point you should have a phone book in front of you organising some proactive med care, and getting on that site. wish i could help you more but im just not qualified. specialist help only from here on in.

diesel: those are big questions for answering in this thread (cant hijack, its rude :D ) but the short answer for that is that you can control side effects more through the use of ancilliary medications like hcg, arimidex, nolva/clomid, topical androgen blockers (hair), and skin meds as needed, than just through the choice of agent. also, dosage and length of cycle plays a huge role.

as for what id expect to see, well to be honest i couldnt help you, since no one comes into the pharmacy and says, bro, i have been on test for the past 4 years in 8 cycles with 20mg var..... truth is, i havnt got the experience. the other reason is that out of all the illicit user i know, no one uses var- theyre all on test and dbol, with a bit of deca thrown in. if you wanted info on that, different story...)

as for gh only cycles, id say that the evidence suggests that best results are through using it along with roids, unless youre just an older guy who wants to feel younger and look younger, in which case, its a nice sort of thing to be able to afford :)

cheers, and sorry for the partial hijack :)
 
do u think if i took tribulus, it might affect my recovery negatively? cuz i was taken it in like january and beginning of feb and i loved it- i was somehwat horny...but i stopped it cuz i heard it can keep u suppressed. i jus dun want it to keep me suppressed...thx9000-the doc doin the tests is also treating me, and im going at 1pm for the ultra...ill post results...later
 
liftr486 said:
do u think if i took tribulus, it might affect my recovery negatively? cuz i was taken it in like january and beginning of feb and i loved it- i was somehwat horny...but i stopped it cuz i heard it can keep u suppressed. i jus dun want it to keep me suppressed...thx9000-the doc doin the tests is also treating me, and im going at 1pm for the ultra...ill post results...later

Tell him you want to your prolactin levels tested. Sorry, I cannot remember but does he know about your 7mo cycle? If he doesn't, then at some point the Doc is going to need this information. IMO you really need to stop trying to treat yourself (dostinex, tribulus, etc) by guessing at possible causes of your continued supression. You need to rely on the doc, if you feel your not making progress with him then get a referral to another endo.
 
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