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Black vs. White physique


Everyone who reads this should be grateful for an upbringing and present circumstance that allows them to read and ponder heavy issues such as these in an intelligent, analytical manner. There are hundreds of thousands of people who will never get the chance.

JC [/B]


Amen Bro.
 
Hugh Gellatts said:
while we are on the subject, why are samoans big?

Same as with Africans. Pacific islands can only handle so many people so it was customary for pioneers to head out in groups to find new territory where they could be the boss. They did this in frickin' row boats. If you observe the Pacific ocean you will no doubt notice it is damn big and the islands are really, really far apart. These journeys weeded out the skinny phenotype, that's a long time to be exposed to extremes of temperature on the open ocean.

"The results support the hypothesis that exposure would have been a major problem for Neolithic voyagers in the Pacific, and the likelihood of strong direction selection for a muscular phenotype. The survival proportions for all groups were less than anticipated. For example survival proportions in summer for males of intermediate physique across a range of latitudes from 12oS to 25oS are 62, 56, 19, 5 and zero. For all groups, whatever their range of survival, there is a rapid decline in survival beyond 15o latitude, and this association of survival with latitude was, in statistical terms, highly significant. For any group there is an approximately 5% decline in survival for each degree movement away from ten degrees of latitude, with an average male/female difference in survival of 5% in summer and 3% in winter, to the advantage of the males.

The inference is that the impressive Polynesian muscularity has evolved not for locomotor purposes but as a metabolic heat source. The particular muscle fibre type predominantly involved in shivering (an isometric contraction) is Type IIb, or fast twitch6,7,8. We suggest that people of Polynesian ancestry are likely to show a genetically-determined preponderance of this muscle fibre type."

http://www.monash.edu.au/APJCN/Vol4/Num4/44p354.htm#top

Samoans are also reputed to be the descendants of people who also survived famine on the way across, for some reason the fishing was poor, so only the fat ones made it.

It's possible that the selective breeding practiced on Africans in America made some difference but I don't know. Selective breeding takes many, many generations. It's not as the same as with marijuana where a generation lasts 60 days (ahem). Some of the Europeans, particularly the Irish in the 1840's had similar mortality rates on the Atlantic journey with no athletic windfall for the gene pool. I'd say if West Africans had an American diet for a couple of generations the results would be the same, or maybe better, as 90% of African-Americans are of mixed African and European ancestry. Look at the way the Japanese shot up after world war II when they imported a different diet.
 
Doktor Bollix said:


It's possible that the selective breeding practiced on Africans in America made some difference but I don't know. Selective breeding takes many, many generations. It's not as the same as with marijuana where a generation lasts 60 days (ahem). Some of the Europeans, particularly the Irish in the 1840's had similar mortality rates on the Atlantic journey with no athletic windfall for the gene pool. I'd say if West Africans had an American diet for a couple of generations the results would be the same, or maybe better, as 90% of African-Americans are of mixed African and European ancestry. Look at the way the Japanese shot up after world war II when they imported a different diet.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was mentioning this thread to a learned friend of mine (who happens to be part Irish) and she mentioned just about all the points you mentioned here.

JC
 
My Turn!!!!

AS A BLACK MAN!!!!
Im glad this was discussed. Im not gonna say one race is more superior then the other. I also know that each race has its lazy people. Its a shame that someone who is not Ronnie Colemans size would say that all blacks are lazy. But evryone has an opinion.
Sure I have better genetics, but get the point..."ONLY IN CERTAIN AREAS"! Thats the key. My calves are huge but most of my white friends have small calves. My chest is smaller the most of my white friends have bigger chest's. Genetics being better does not mean "all around". Makes me no better or someone else any better. But there is one thing that "ME" The black guy, my other black friends, my white friends, the KKK and half of Germany will all agree upon......... We all hate a lazy N****R!
FROM A TRUE BLACK MAN!!!!!!!
 
Blacks also look ripped all the time just from the way their color shows the contors of their muscles. A white guy can toatally change the look of his muscles just by getting a dark tan.
 
Also

I wonder if this has anything to do with keeping gains easier.
I know for a fact what a "hood cycle" is. Pop a-bombs or d-bol until you feel you are big enough or strong enough. Winny is also real popular.Thats it, no clomid, worrying about diet, protein drinks or anything. People may pop pills for 2-3 months straight take 4 weeks off and start poppin again.

In some rec centers bros pop the pills, lift and then go smoke some weed. Post workout meal my ass. There are a ton of drugs flying around the hood. Juice is easily obtained, alot of people use winny for their pits. The thing is most know nothing about cycling or post cycle, or half the knowledge even the newest newbie has on this board knows and they make great gains.

In the "hood" alot of gains are more strength than mass(although when gained it does seem quality LBM even on drugs that cause water retention). The diets are shitty as hell. Brothers will get a corn beef sandwich or some wings at the corner store, a bag of chips and a snapple, something in between and maybe something else from the store later that night. No 6 meals a day shit. No watching protein intake. LOL You see muthafuckas getting cut off of d-bol like its fina.

But the funny thing is, they keep most of the gains. I brought up clomid to some brothers and they said "how big does that get you?" The 3 most popular drugs are a-bombs,winny and d-bol. Ask about deca,sus,fina or eq and get a "wtf is that shit look"!Brothers in the "hood" will rarely inject. Don't know why, i really don't ask. They just pop orals.

So I really wonder how do different races do when it comes to keeping gains or even altering genetic potential. Do we have some kind of advantage? Cause I am telling you guys, especially vets, if you seen what these folks do in the "hood" you would say no way they will gain or keep shit, but they do. Yet you have some white kid that takes all the protein(400 grams a day), creatine, gear, clomid and ends up with little to show for it. Of course I don't know that much about how white people cycle, only from boards like this, but it tends to be much more advanced and thought out than their innercity brethren.

And you would think there would be an epidemic of "bitch tits" or something. With this thread I am starting to wonder how much is really race related when it comes to gear and what it does to the body.
 
i would like to see studies of insulin sensitivies between races or something of that nature . Ive never talked to a black guy who ever did a low carb diet
 
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