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Arms won't grow/stay solid

CNovaJason

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I train my arms very hard but do not do a LOT of sets for them. I train them as a smaller muscle group than back, or legs and chest. Anyway I have long arms being 6'2" and have had trouble recently putting mass on them and keeping them pumped. I do dumbell curls, straight bar or ezbar curls, and cable curls typically running around 5 sets of each (except for the burnouts on cables) and 5 to 7 reps only. Anyone have some little tips for isolating the bicep muscle if you have longer muscles? Thanks to all who reply! Should I go close or wide grip.....full extension or not? Just let me know thanks bros.
 
No I only do 11.........I do 5 sets of the first two exercises, and then for cables I do a burnout one good set.
 
It sounds to me like you're overworking your arms. I know it might seem unreasonable but try not to work arms at all for a couple of weeks or even a month and put more time into the big compound movements. Do more bench, squat, rows, deadlift, overhead pressing and then see where you stand with your arms.
 
Blut Wump said:
It sounds to me like you're overworking your arms. I know it might seem unreasonable but try not to work arms at all for a couple of weeks or even a month and put more time into the big compound movements. Do more bench, squat, rows, deadlift, overhead pressing and then see where you stand with your arms.

For a guy (speaking from personal experience) not doing specific arm work is one of, if not the most, scariest things in the world.

Especially when every magazine cover has Ronnie doing preacher curls or some such thing.
 
The triceps usually are worth some extra work if you have trouble locking out the bench but I hardly ever work biceps. They're usually telling me they've had enough with the rowing/pulldown/chinup movements. Even when I did work them they'd get only two or three sets a week and then only if I felt I had energy to burn.

Working biceps just weakens your rowing. Not a good trade.
 
Blut Wump said:
The triceps usually are worth some extra work if you have trouble locking out the bench but I hardly ever work biceps. They're usually telling me they've had enough with the rowing/pulldown/chinup movements. Even when I did work them they'd get only two or three sets a week and then only if I felt I had energy to burn.

Working biceps just weakens your rowing. Not a good trade.

well, this is an individual tolerance. I do not have this problem. unless I trained biceps intensly the day before a back workout -- But i would never do that. :)
 
Here are some suggestions:

1. First thing I'd do is check your diet. From what I've experienced, if you're working hard for size and not getting it, you might not be getting enough calories/protein. Try multiplying your weight by 14.5. This is a good ballpark figure for how many calories you need. Be sure you're getting about a gram and a half of protein for each pound you weigh.

2. I was really surprised at how my bi's improved when I knuckled down and started using strict form. When doing curls it is vital that you keep your upper arm perpendicular to the floor. I realzed that I had been bringing my elbows forward at the end of the contraction and that takes the stress off the bicep. By keeping your elbows back you keep stress on the bicep thru the emtire rep. Equals BIG pump!

3 I really benefitted from NO2. I've heard a lot of people on here say that it didn't work for them so I can't speak for them, only the results I got. I have since tried other NO products and didn't get as good results. It is pricey but after a few weeks I was sustaining mass in my upper arms. I was also shocked at how my strength went up. On the tricep machine particularly, I noticed that within a month I went from doing a little more than half the stack to doing the whole stack without much fatigue. It was a great feeling! Cell Tech right before my workout gave me the best creatine pumps I've ever had too.

4. I don't know if you're aware of this but the real size of your upper arm comes from the triceps. When I was younger I used to 'play around' with weight and I would always do bi's because I got that little 'pump in the hump' and thought my arm looked BIG. But working bi's AND tri's hard will give your arm the tighter, harder look you want.

5 Here's the routine that worked for me. It isn't an advanced routing but it worked for me and I'm not a naturally 'hard-muscled' guy:

Do back and bi's one day with chest and tri's either the next day or 2 days later. There are 3 phases, each with the same exercises, the weight just goes up after each 4 week phase and reps go down.

You can use whatever exercises you like. I've listed the ones I use:

Phase 1 - weeks 1 - 4:
Biceps:
Barball curl
incline dumbbell curl
preacher curl with EZ curl bar
isolation curls (these really finish them off!)

Tri's:
Behind-the-head press-ups (I do this on a machine but you can use an EZ curl bar or dumbbells)
cable press-down with a rope attachment
nose-breakers with dumbbell or barbell

For each exercise, pick a weight that you hit failure on the 12th rep the first set. The next 3 sets, shoot for as close to 12 reps as you can but you really only HAVE to get 8. Rest 90 seconds between each set and each exercise.

Phase 2 - weeks 5 - 8

Same exercises. Increase the weight to the point where you hit failure on the 9th rep the first set of each exercise. For the next 3 sets try for 9 reps but you really only have to get 5. Rest 2 minutes between each set and between each exercise.

Phase 3 - weeks 9 - 12

Same exercises. Increase the weight to the point where you hit failure on the 5th rep the first set of each exercise. For the next 3 sets try for 5 reps but you really only have to get 2. Rest 3 minutes between each set and between each exercise.

Only work these muscle groups once a week. The poster who said you may be overtraining could be right. After the end of the 12th week actively rest for a week or 2. That means stay out of the gym. Then start over or pick a new routine.

Hope this helps.
 
I agree on what wallcrawler said - except one thing. I don't do back and bi's together because whichever one is done first, the other will lack....same with chest and tri's. I do bi's and tri's together, focusing mostly on tri's (2/3s of your upper arm). But that's me, doing back and bi's together might work well for you.
 
Blut Wump said:
It sounds to me like you're overworking your arms. I know it might seem unreasonable but try not to work arms at all for a couple of weeks or even a month and put more time into the big compound movements. Do more bench, squat, rows, deadlift, overhead pressing and then see where you stand with your arms.


The above and add some grip forearm work. Not just wrist curls but thick bar work, plate curls, grippers, sledgehammer work, etc.
 
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