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acneman said:
hahaha hell yeah

hows the shoulder brotha? ive been gone a while

:beer: dont know if ive been here long enough but cheers
and i love Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate -
all steroids have sides
thats what 90% of the info on this board deals with
avoiding sides
:beer:
 
i disagree about the nolvadex. this is entirely wrong. i am on my first go around with nolvadex coming off 4th cycle. this is the first time i've did a clomid/nolvadex pct. and i have to say the results are amazing. instead of a big sag in energy and libido, it stayed highly elevated and slowly has come down to a little above normal over 4 weeks. i'm gonna continue for 2 more weeks if i can take it. the clomids making me super emotional loverboy. i'm all sappy with the wife.
 
just_A_Gazin said:
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - : If you are prone to issues or dont know how to counteract them then yes stay away. If you are smarter than the average beginner anabolic androgenic steroids user, you know your body and how it reacts to this compound then there should be no problem


BS though on the Whey Concentrate's Biological Value (104). Its higher than an egg which is 100. Whey Isolates are through the roof (159)

Theoretically BV's are not supposed to go higher than an egg at 100 but to show how effective Whey is they showin terms of BV rating.
http://www.fitstep.com/Advanced/Tips/Tips/protein-chart.htm

The rest I am not fond of anyway.

Bridges are a matter of personal opinion. No you will not recover your HPTA but you will give yourself a break from bloat, High blood pressure and screwing up your HDL/LDL levels.
Just curious why you stated that BV's are not supposed to go higher than 100. Good post none the less
 
whey concentrate is only 80% actual protein. it's not bad and certainly better than eating crap. it's just no "super food.'
 
Nelson Montana said:
whey concentrate is only 80% actual protein. it's not bad and certainly better than eating crap. it's just no "super food.'

What's your take on this. Here is the whey I take Nelson:

Our whey protein concentrate is guaranteed to be the freshest and purest protein available. We can honestly make this guarantee because our factory cuts out all middlemen and ships direct to you. Our unflavored whey protein concentrate contains 21 grams of the highest biological value, pure protein per serving with less then 2 grams of carbs and fat. It’s perfect for low-carb dieters and athletes who want to get lean and ripped while packing on muscle.

100% non-denatured whey protein concentrate.
No additives, fillers, or artificial ingredients.
Triple cold filtration process including micro and ultra filtration.
Mixes easily with a spoon - no gritty taste, clumping or residue.
Less then 2 grams of carbs and fat per scoop.
Perfect for Atkins and low-carb dieters.
Manufactured in the USA in a USDA licensed dairy plant.
Mixes with water, juice, milk and is great for cooking pancakes, oatmeal, muffins etc.
New and Improved- Now mixes better than ever.
Lab tested for purity.

Nutritional Facts:
(Serving: 1 scoop, 26 grams)

Calories: 104
Calories from fat: 14
Total fat: 1.5g
Saturated fat: 0.8g
Cholesterol: 39mg
Sodium: 42mg
Total carbs: 2g
Lactose: 1g
Protein: 21g
Phosphorous: 85 mg
Calcium: 119 mg
Magnesium: 17 mg
Potassium: 157 mg
Iron: 0 .3
Riboflavin: 0.3 mg
Vitamin A: 17 IU
Amino Acid Profile:
(per 100 grams of protein)

Alanine: 4,540 mg
Arginine: 2,209 mg
Aspartic Acid: 9,939 mg
Cysteine: 2,331 mg
Glutamic Acid: 11,411 mg
Glutamine: 4,417 mg
Glycine: 1,718 mg
Histidine: 1,840 mg
Isolucine: 5,767 mg
Luecine: 10,184 mg
Lysine: 8,466 mg
Methionine: 1,963 mg
Phenylalanine: 190 mg
Proline: 5,513 mg
Serine: 4,417 mg
Threonine: 6,012 mg
Tryptophan: 1,595 mg
Tyrosine: 2,822 mg
Valine: 5,399 mg
Protein Values:

Biological value (BV):104
PDCAAS: 1.0
Protein Efficiency: 3.6
Net Protein Utilization:92
Protein Digestibility: 95

Alpha-Lactoglobulin: 18,300 15-20%,
Beta-Lactalbumin: 14,000 50%
Immunoglobulins (IgH): ~150,000 10%
Lactoferrin: 77,000 1%
Lactoperoxidase: 77,500 1%
Glycomacropeptides: 8000 15%
Protease-peptone: n/a <1%
Cellular Growth Factor: 5,000-74,000

Ingredients: Whey protein concentrate. Lecithin is used during the manufacturing of this product.
 
good article in men's health this month--the gist is that protein "Isolate" is more pure than "concentrate" and "hydolyzed" is more broken down than Isolate or concentrate, thus absorbed faster (good for whey (for fast absorbtion) and bad for casein (a slow/steady absorbtion rate).

the scam they disclose is that some manuf claim that their protein is a "propietary blend of .... therefore they do not have to list concentrate as first on the list of ingred (think old metrx)

in the end, they rec a blend of whey and casein isolates.
 
Whey concentrates numbers look good but not all of it is actually usable. Alex from protein factory really understands the mechanisms behind this. This is why you can buy concentrate from PF for 5 bucks a pound. It's very cheap.

Hydrolyzed has always been the best but it's inedible. Tastes like ass. They used to put hydrolyzed in amino tabs which is actually a pretty good idea but not very popular anymore.

Super Plasma protein eclipses them all by leasp and bounds. It isn't as sweet and creamy as isolate but it doesn;t have a bad tase -- just bland.
 
eddymerckx said:
good article in men's health this month--the gist is that protein "Isolate" is more pure than "concentrate" and "hydolyzed" is more broken down than Isolate or concentrate, thus absorbed faster (good for whey (for fast absorbtion) and bad for casein (a slow/steady absorbtion rate).

the scam they disclose is that some manuf claim that their protein is a "propietary blend of .... therefore they do not have to list concentrate as first on the list of ingred (think old metrx)

in the end, they rec a blend of whey and casein isolates.

Ok, so I read Men's Health sometimes too.

The last set of 'abdo' exercises had me think 'bring on the chiropracter'.

I have a friend who has been a cover model for them, and did all those little exercise pics in them for a year....................................

He asks me for training and diet advice :D

Ok so whey, in particular whey isolate will spike your insulin, and yes it is digested faster, but that is not always what you want.

Post work out, cool, overnight, no.

Micellar casein and calcium casinate, soya protein, slow the digestion.

Nelson, have you looked into hemp protein powder?

BTW, what does ass taste like?

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