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Are You Still Using This? STOP!!!

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is not obsolete that is fucking bullshit it has been used effectively for 30 years
when you make such claims please present us with links tests and studies and evidence behind your personal opinions

show me a few tests that determined Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - as obsolete and I will gladly mark my words.

you are a good bro nelson but sometimes i fear you are far outdated

who is endorsing you to make these radical claims

people go overboards on substances, yes.
 
holy ghost said:
Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - is not obsolete that is fucking bullshit it has been used effectively for 30 years
when you make such claims please present us with links tests and studies and evidence behind your personal opinions

show me a few tests that determined Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - as obsolete and I will gladly mark my words.

you are a good bro nelson but sometimes i fear you are far outdated

who is endorsing you to make these radical claims

people go overboards on substances, yes.
come on bro nelson is just making some claims bro.you could just talk to him about them rather then fight with him...I know your a down as g and thats how you come off but put the gun down.lol
 
im not fighting with him, it is an automatical felony for elderly battery, lord knows i dont need another one LOL

he knows i respect him i have told him many times
im keeping on debate level not personal
except for maybe that who is endorsing you comment lol
 
disagree with everything you just wrote. decca is one of my favorite compounds for the last 10 or so years.. and the products you recommended are not any better..
 
hyp1 said:
hey sincere81oo0:)

I would say nelson is kinda going overboard on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin too,the compound isn't that bad imo,and kickass gains can be made from using it.

does it shut you down?for most people yes it does,but that's precisely what post cycle therapy is for and measures can be taken even while on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - durabolin like getting on HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - maintenance so shut down will be kept to a minimum.


i agree, deca has always given me amazing gains and the only downside i have had was shutting me down.... i have already found a great way to beat that with an hcg and igf-1 lr3 combo... works wonders and actually kept gaining post instead of losing... kind balanced me out made me loss water weight but gain muscle and new cut... little secret for you bros, shhhhh :)
 
holy ghost said:
im not fighting with him, it is an automatical felony for elderly battery, lord knows i dont need another one LOL

he knows i respect him i have told him many times
im keeping on debate level not personal
except for maybe that who is endorsing you comment lol
lol you a good shit man....
 
OK Nelson, so what would you recommend as the best choice to go with if you like deca, but not the sides that come with it? what gear is comparable in your book to deca? How do you feel about NPP? the same way?
 
Nelson Montana said:
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10 Outdated and Overrated Compounds You're Better Off Without.



#10: Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - :

Said it beofe, I'll say it again -- this is the poster child for disaterous steroids. There's talk of it being elliminated completely from the legit market. If you love it, use it. But a bloating compond that causes impotence is the worst of both worlds.

#9: Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate -

This was never a "first choice" drug. Teslac was always considered better. (Much like Proviron but stronger). But Teslac never caught on because of its price. Since then many other much better anti e's have come along and the effectivness of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - has been shown to be virtually worthless is almost every bodybuilding application. Yet, it will not go away. Habits, and misinformation, die hard.

#8; Prohormones (or pro-steroids or whatever they're calling that crap these days)

Ten times the side effects and virtually none of the benefits of steroids! Woo hoo! At least it's a chemical! I'm on drugs dude!

#7: Tribulus

This stuff ever really did much but it was all we had in terms of a natrual assistance to boosting T and lh - leutenizing hormone - - leutenizing hormone - . The results were so slight they were inconsequntial. UNLEASHED actually accomplishes what Trib tried to.

#6: Vet Gear

This will be my battle cray until I'm dead and I know it'll never be completely accepted but vet gear just ain't right. Three decades into its use people still report weird side effects of which will never be answered becuase (THERE HASN'T BEEN AS SINGLE STUDY ON THE USE OF VET GEAR IN HUMANS). I just don't trust it. Yeah, yeah, trenbolone is awesome. But if you can't get good results with a good amount reasonably safer shit, you suck anyway so why bother?

#5: Nitric Oxide.

Actually not a bad supp -- overhyped for sure, but not bad for increasing pump. Newer versions are better but now that there's this... http://proteinfactory.com/shop/product.php?productid=918&cat=0&page=1 ... there's no use taking plain old NO2.

#4 DNP

If you fuck yourself up with this, you deserve what was coming to you. Harsh, but true.


#3: Bridges

Stop fooling yourself. Get out and get clean. If you need something full time, go on HR T. It's 2007 for crissakes.


#2: Whey Concentrate

It's almost not even worth supplementing with whey concentrate since the BV is so weak. And that's the main ingredient in most MRP's. Any food source would be better. There are so many superior options today -- isolate, cross filtered, even whole egg is better than concentrate. And NO FOOD SOURCE has the nitrogen retention qualities of Super Plasma Serum. If you're going to "supplement" doesn't it make sense to do it with something that you can't get any other way? The best source of Super Plasma Serum? Forget it. The cost is out of bounds. But BIG BLAST contains 10% super plasma serum. That's the highest amount you'll find in any commercial product. In fact, it's the only one.

#1: Mega Doses

Let's face it. You ain't Mr. Olympia. You will never be Mr. Olympia. There is no point in using mega doses. If you train hard and have your diet in check, you can make great gains on moderate dosages. Twice as much gear will not yield twice as much muscle. (It will however yield twice the side effects). Even if you're a casual lifter who is really just a lazy fuck who doesn't want to work hard and uses steroids to make it easier -- more won't do more for you. They only do so much, the excess is pissed away. And it causes damage in the process.


Responses are welcome. (Pointless insults from the pathetic AF gang are not).

Any other thing that everybody seems to love that you feel is worthless? Let us know.

Deca: If you are prone to issues or dont know how to counteract them then yes stay away. If you are smarter than the average beginner AAS user, you know your body and how it reacts to this compound then there should be no problem


BS though on the Whey Concentrate's Biological Value (104). Its higher than an egg which is 100. Whey Isolates are through the roof (159)

Theoretically BV's are not supposed to go higher than an egg at 100 but to show how effective Whey is they showin terms of BV rating.
http://www.fitstep.com/Advanced/Tips/Tips/protein-chart.htm

The rest I am not fond of anyway.

Bridges are a matter of personal opinion. No you will not recover your HPTA but you will give yourself a break from bloat, High blood pressure and screwing up your HDL/LDL levels.
 
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