Don't Fear Bloating!

[Nelson Montana]

A lot of guys are so afraid of retatining water and they use all sorts of shit to get rid of it. NOT, a good idea.

Part of bloating is increased blood volume. This brings more nutrients to the muscles and allows for greater growth. Why get rid of that? Water also soothes the joints and increases strength. (A good portion of the incresed strength from creatine is the water retention). The supplement VIGOR increases blood volume and that too is another reason why it's effective. Let the steroids do their thing!

Of course, no one wants a moon face. But that is avoidable simply by using lower dosages. ADroll is the worst for this because it's the one steroid which increases blood volume the most! Just keep it under control.

Using anti e's to reduce bloat just isn't smart, AND...it hinders gains by lowering IGF.

Nobody likes bloat but it's more of a vanity thing. If you just want to get rid of a little water under the skin, a natty diuretic (DEFINITION being the best IMO) is all you need. And break a sweat during your workout! If the edema gets so bad that your blood pressure rises, take a triple dose of DEFINITION for 3 days, drink a lot of water and take it easy on the salt and it should get you back to normal.

Water retention is a part of cycling. Keep it under control but don't try to elliminate it altogether.

 

[yoop33]

I don't really mind bloating much at all. My face does get big and round but the only thing I have to do is keep my head up to avoid the double chin. I dont mind at all.

 

[H_T_]

what about the additional water around the heart?

 

[samoth]

Another great post from Nelson.

I don't understand what's with so many people wanting to use steroids but lose weight ("cut", whatever) and prevent water retention. Unless one is cutting like, e.g., Needsize for a comp, simply controlling ones diet would be the credited response.

Getting bigger and stronger -- the primary reasons for anabolic steroid use -- necessarily means gaining weight (big shock, I know) and increasing water retention. If people are having that big of an issue with bloat, perhaps the number and amount of steroids being taken should be reanalyzed.

 

[yankees5677]

I could care less about bloating. In fact I enjoy the extra water size because I know its only temporary. But what if youre using an anti-e for the purpose of preventing gyno. As a result water retention is cut down. How could you get around that? I would love to not take an anti-e during my cycle but I worry about getting gyno.
My cycle
500Mg test wk1-14
300Mg deca wk1-12
dball wk 1-5
.25 Adex ED wk 1-5 then after the dball is out of the cycle I only want to use Adex if necessary.

 

[lartinos]

I guess if you like low doseages or don't bloat much, but thats rare. I bloat on 250mg's test! like many others. So...... for a the small percent on this board that like doing low doseages or don't bloat much sure its a good idea. Otherwise it is unhealthy walking around as a bloated piece of shit.

 

[samoth]

what about the additional water around the heart?

Hmm... interesting question. I believe the mechanisms leading to water retention are somewhat selective, but their impact here might or might not be similarly impacted. Definitely worth looking into.

 

[H_T_]

Hmm... interesting question. I believe the mechanisms leading to water retention are somewhat selective, but their impact here might or might not be similarly impacted. Definitely worth looking into.

i was given meds specifically for that. the bp stuff wasn't cutting it, so i was given a diuretic. i was told it was to eliminate excess water around my heart. my numbers dropped quite a bit after i started it.....

 

[Nelson Montana]

what about the additional water around the heart?

That's a serious question. if it's an issue for you obviously it would make sense to use only compounds that don't increase water retention, e.g. Primmo and Winnee. Take DEFINITION every day. Don't exceed cycles beyond 6 weeks.

Yes, as samoth says, steroids are size promoting drugs and then you've got guys doing everything possible to prevent getting bigger. I think it's also funny when people regard a drug as a "mass" drug or a "cutting" drug. There's not much difference . Some just increase blood and water volume more than others.

 

[samoth]

i was given meds specifically for that. the bp stuff wasn't cutting it, so i was given a diuretic. i was told it was to eliminate excess water around my heart. my numbers dropped quite a bit after i started it.....

If you have the literature that (sometimes) comes with prescription drugs, it might have the pharmacodynamics and information showing how it works here. Knowing how excess water is removed might assist in figuring out how and what causes the retention, and extrapolate given the mechanisms by which anabolic steroids function in mammailian organisms.