anyone trained to be a UFC fighter?

[Charles Ray]

FOR ALL THE WRESTLERS.....



You guys know as well as I do that we come into the BJJ schools and just whoop the shit out of everyone. At first it's hard at first to actually win cuz we don't know anyyyy submissions but teach us 1 OR 2 and we have at least half of the guys asses in our hands. I have only high school wrestling experience and I even kick the crap out of these guys. Nothing compares to stuff u learn doing competitive wrestling. It is THEE best foundation for MMA with the exception of Muay Thai....they're both equally important if you want to have a SOLID foundation.

Wrestling+Muay Thai+ BJJ= the best mix

 

[punisher44]

Maybe you are really something to get a brown belt in what 3years. I smell shit. My instructor Dave Ruiz trained with one of the gracies for about 15years and he is a brown. He has won the last 2 pan am games in his weight class and the world games once. It takes a long time to move up. NO offence But I'm not buying it.

 

[ccorah]

Contrary to popular belief, BJJ doesn't automatically make you an unstoppable machine. In my opinion wrestling is every bit as dangerous. The wrestlers have taken the scene by storm. Here's a few who defeated some of the top BJJ fighters in the world. (and these fighters are pure wrestlers, you will hardly ever see them attempt a legit submission, so this is just to disprove your theory that a fighter who isn't disciplined in BJJ has no chance)

Matt Hughes defeated Carlos Newton.
Randy Courture gave Vitor Belfort the beat down of his life.
Dan Henderson beat Allan Goes.
Mark Kerr beat Inson Inoue.
Mark Coleman has opened up a few cans of whoop ass for a couple BJJers.
These are just a few, and you can just as easily name some BJJ fighters who have given wrestlers a tough time.
All I'm saying is that just because someone knows BJJ, doesn't make them unbeatable.

When Belfort is at 205 lbs (not 230 and not in good cardio shape) he is better than couture. He was just trying too hard to come in heavy.....Sorry, I had to stick up for him cause he is the most fun fighter to watch. Very well rounded fighter.

 

[Thaibox]

When Belfort is at 205 lbs (not 230 and not in good cardio shape) he is better than couture. He was just trying too hard to come in heavy.....Sorry, I had to stick up for him cause he is the most fun fighter to watch. Very well rounded fighter.

V Belfort is great to watch

 

[cobra kid]

alright, something i know about!!

I totally disagree with anybody that says a certain style is the best. It completely depends on the person, instructor, and most of all what works for the person. If you're looking for a school, don't commit anywhere untill you're sure that is what you want. There are too many unpractical places. BJJ is awsome but if you have no idea how to do standup, IMO you're probably gonna get pounded.(unless you're a Gracie) Go for both standup and grappling if you really wanna kick some ass. Muay Thai and BJJ together are pretty brutal. Check out www.sherdog.com , it's a great mma site.


BTW, don't do karate, it is gay

 

[liquidmuscle]

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[KA-BAR]

UFC Fighters can't be one diminsional anymore. You need to punch like a boxer, Kick and knee Muay Thai, do takedowns like a wrestler, and grapple like a brazilian jiu jitsu stylist. Look for a school that can teach you atleast 25% of each of the qualities. I think cardio is very important in that fight game also.

You hit that one right on the button DesertTiger! I used to live and breath Wrestling and converted to Submission Wrestling but never tried muay thai or boxing. I watch all the ufc's, prides, cage fights, aubi daubi or however you spell it and I know what works. Fatigue will make cowards out of anyone so cardio is a huge factor in NHB.

 

[nhbgorilla]

i didnt really see all the replies but there is a lions den in Texas, and another place where Evan Tanner and Heath Herring trained. or just find a bjj school and a boxing school.

 

[LittleHelp]

Very True! But most wrestlers do know submission fighting!!

All fights are won/lost on the ground!

Most wrestler know submission fighting to a point. If you learn only wrestling chances are you are not versed in joint locks, ankle locks and chokes. Because they are all illegal in wrestling. While most fights do go to the ground, a straight wrestler is at a disadvantage to a shootfighter in that since you cannot punch or kick in wrestling many of the takedowns and/or holds in traditional wrestling leave vital organs or limbs vulnerable to strikes or counters. That is why to be a complete fighter groundwork i.e. wrestling, BJJ, grappling, hapkido, combined with stand up fighting i.e. muay thai, jeet kune do, boxing is the most effective. This is one of the reasons shootfighting (Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu Combined) has been to dominant in UFC>