Anyone not train to failure and still get results?

[SaiBoT]

I've been working to the point where I stay one rep away from failure if I'm working out below 8 reps per set, over 8 reps I usually add one forced rep. Sometimes I max out and that's when failure occurs.

Everybody is trying to keep it smart but the thing is temptation leads us to test ourselves, it's our nature.

 

[fortunatesun]

gettin back into the game rob. i was really into jiujitsu but now that im getting into law enforcement (yea i know, ironic) i cant risk fucking myself up in martial arts so its back into golds gym. I also have access to a bunch of HRT stuff now so i want to take advantage of it all while since im not getting any younger.

Thanks for satisfying my curiosity.

Bfold said it best if you want to avoid wearing yourself down - intensity. What you lose in not squeezing out that last rep you can make up with form, keeping the pace brisk, and giving it your best effort every time.

Failure can be good if you want to stimulate growth (though maybe carrying that extra weight wouldn't be advisable?). From my perspective, you can reduce some of the strain induced by going all out through using things like drop sets and rest pause. It's not something I do all the time, but cycle them in for a few weeks at a time if I see the need, rotating muscle groups as well.

Have you seen the Hammer Down series from Chad Waterbury? The link was posted in the Martial Arts forum a while back. It's a program designed to be MMA specific. This may be more of what you're interested in instead of the usual. Probably more useful in your new line of work unless they find out you have a skill and put you behind a desk.

TMUSCLE.com | MMA-Specific Strength

TMUSCLE.com | MMA-Specific Endurance

 

[Nomak666]

i dont know about you guys but i know what seperates me from the rest is how many reps i push it past failure. alot of people ask me how many reps i do and i really dont have a set rep range. i go anywhere from 6 reps to 15 reps. whatever it takes so that i can't complete another one. its the last 3-4 reps that really stimulate the muscles.

 

[-SD-]

i dont know about you guys but i know what seperates me from the rest is how many reps i push it past failure. alot of people ask me how many reps i do and i really dont have a set rep range. i go anywhere from 6 reps to 15 reps. whatever it takes so that i can't complete another one. its the last 3-4 reps that really stimulate the muscles.

you cant push it past failure unless you are getting a spot helping you. unless thats just one of those expressions like "giving 110%"

 

[b fold the truth]

Like.....Pulling a limit set of 5 and getting tunnel vision and a headache afterwards? lol

I haven't trained to failure in some time, but there is a time and a place for it depending on your goals.

When The Pale Horse gets within reaching distance...drop the bar.

 

[iggy]

would a 5x5 be considered training till failure?

i've always made decent gains on 5x5s.

 

[Nomak666]

you cant push it past failure unless you are getting a spot helping you. unless thats just one of those expressions like "giving 110%"

i use dumbbells for most of my lifts (bench press, shoulder press). its not hard to push it to failure with dumbbbells. with barbells, you would need a spotter. you are kinda right, you cant push every set to failure, but the last set with the heaviest weight, i do as many reps as possible then as many half reps as i can. i just think way too many people drop the weights as soon as they feel uncomfortable, they wont keep pushing when it starts to hurt, thats one of the reasons newbies dont see results after a while.

 

[the_alcatraz]

always training to failure = overtraining

 

[joe d]

by the way, when i say train to failure, i dont mean getting to the last rep and having to dump it on the ground because you cant do it. i mean getting to the last rep just before that one that you are barely able to complete, and another rep would not be possible.

thats not failure.
that range or even 1 less with an additional set would be ideal probably most of the time for you. once in a while you gotta go heavy and to failure meaning you are pushing the weight one way and it is moving the other way.

 

[BeaR]

I gained most of my muscle with high volume low rep schemes rather tha high rep "til failure" type training. Pretty much for size, it makes since or at least to me that if you keep you reps low you can have more effective an clean reps and use more weight. whereas with going to failure you'll end up with bad form which can create embalances and inhuries as you get sloppy with it.

take the 8x3 appraoch on all your core lifts rather than 3x8, you'll still be getting your 24 reps but they'll be lots more productive for you. really, if you want some sick size fast hit singles for a while

i do this from time to time

hang clean 20 pounds under max load for 30 sets of 1 with 90 second rests then call it a day. twice a month.