Alright! I am fuckin set off now!

[mrfuznut]

I look at it this way:

If you're standing in a forest, freezing, and have a can of lighter fluid and a box of matches, should you

a). gather some twigs, spritz some fluid on it, and light 'er up.
b). throw away the fluid and matches and rub two sticks together until the dry weeds you're hoping to ignite actually ignite?


It's like not using a calculator on a math test, despite it sitting right next to you the whole time.

 

[Wulfgar]

I look at it this way:

If you're standing in a forest, freezing, and have a can of lighter fluid and a box of matches, should you

a). gather some twigs, spritz some fluid on it, and light 'er up.
b). throw away the fluid and matches and rub two sticks together until the dry weeds you're hoping to ignite actually ignite?


It's like not using a calculator on a math test, despite it sitting right next to you the whole time.

Im not seeing the analogy

are you saying if the drugs are available use them?

 

[mrfuznut]

Im not seeing the analogy

are you saying if the drugs are available use them?

I'm saying if help is available to reach your goal, and you use it responsibly and safely, and do your damn research, things like DNP, T3, and Clen shouldn't be stigmatized, and people who ask for them shouldn't be, either.

I'll avoid mentioning the irony of people who juice telling people to just work harder to achieve their goals

I keed, I keed. All in good fun.

 

[ego boner]

i eat tuna and salmon WAY more than chicken when i am on.... and i must not be familiar wih most peoples eating habits but why in the hell would anyone ever expect to be serious about their temples shape and health without realizing that food is fuel for your body, let it burn clean, and exercise is the proper way to determine where the food builds whether it be fat or muscle... my .02

Ego Boner

 

[bbkingpin]

Well, anyone who tells someone that they can cut up with just drugs in the first place is full of it. The problem on EF is you could be talking to someone for a long time and have no idea what they look like. They might be a fat miserable slob. There was a guy on EF recently taking winny who finally posted pics and it was so pathetic I don't think anyone could respond -- at all. Not the usual obligatory "looking great, bro," or even a flame -- because it was that unbelievably pathetic. A guy like that could only get steroids over the internet. Before internet, you had to usually have some credibility insofar as your physique or at least your efforts because you had to usually hook up with someone at the gym, maybe a member, maybe the owner. Even when there was mail order in the 80s, the only way to know about it was the same, by knowing other lifters and finding out that way.

Now, anyone can sit at a computer and say anything. And some poor idiot takes it for truth. I know I'm not huge like a pro. But I have no intention of being a pro and I cannot even look like I obviously take steroids for professional reasons, my job, and personal reasons, my family and peers. I can maintain my physique just fine, maybe better, by just eating right and exercising and supplementing with creatine, glutamine, NO2, etc., and just asking God for the will power, and the strength of mind to achieve my goals. "Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you."

I was able, however, to lose fat and maintain muscle more easily (but I've done the same thing before naturally) by incorporating low dose of AAS and Jintropin. I've also thrown in clen intermittently.

But, as Quadsweep stated, the fat came off because I was running on the treadmill 6-7 miles 3 nights or more per week and eating 2000-2500 calories per day. (I'm more like 5' 11" or 6' 0" so less than 2000 calories is very low.) Believe it or not, I was following the BBKingpinn Chicken Cheesesteak diet for the first two months when 80% of the fat I lost melted -- a homemade chopped chicken breast (8 oz.) and some pepper jack cheese on a hollowed out torpedo roll.

So, Quadsweep is absolutely correct. But anybody who knows anything would agree. The fact that he even has to mention it, is due to the fact that a lot of people who talk on here and give advice may or, more likely, may not know from experience what they are talking about.

If you are going to take advice, you should at least know the credentials of the person giving it -- a photo of their physique. Nothing less.

If you found a physician or a surgeon in the yellow pages, would you just trust him without any references or at least verifying that he actually had a licence to practice law and, perhaps, was board certified in his specialty? If you would just trust him, then you are probably doing what a lot of people on here are doing -- taking advice from people they do not know and who may have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

They may have actually taken the substances they are talking about, but they might have absolutely nothing positive to show from it. Maybe just thyroid problems or pancreas problems from willy-nilly taking t3 and insulin because they read about it and have easy access to it via the internet. Or maybe they have no idea how dangerous DNP can be and think taking risks with their life is no big deal. Why take DNP and risk your life when you can just eat less and exercise more and maybe, at worst, suffer from hunger pains, grouchiness, sleeplessness? End up in the hospital and I'm sure you'll get a wake up call as to what is really important in life. No doubt, looking good and feeling good are important to having a good life, but taking risks with your long term health and even with your life -- DNP can kill, insulin can kill, diuretics can kill -- Momo Benaziza, Andrea Munzer -- heroin and it's gateway drug Nubain can kill -- Paul DeMayo (R.I.P.) -- is not the way to achieve it.

Thanks Quadsweep! Your post got me going this morning.

 

[drrman]

The problem here is 90% of the people came to this board out of shape and not ready for steroids, they were looking for a quick fix to gain some size and look a little better because they were too lazy to get close to their full potential naturally....so they looked for a quick fix and steroids get them that somewhat.....now its close to summer and those same guys and girls want to be ripped and of course hardwork and dedication still isn't in their vocabulary....and of course they are gonna look for an easy way to get lean too..........its just the way it is......none of our bitching about them will likely do any good!!!!

 

[bbkingpin]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to DRRman again.

 

[bbkingpin]

..........its just the way it is......none of our bitching about them will likely do any good!!!!

No one's bitching, bro. It's food for thought.

 

[drrman]

No one's bitching, bro. It's food for thought.

i know....not exactly what i meant.......i rant and bitch sometimes too........but.......meant to say that they will probably not find hardwork and discipline after reading these posts......just take more DNP and clen then come back when they have "pulmonary edema"......lol

 

[scorpiogirl]

sorry!

Don't be sorry, Sam. Go to the women's board. Sassy is 100% correct. I suspect it's your diet. We can help.

BTW....I started here at 23% bf and got down to 11.5% with DIET ALONE in 3 months - CLEAN diet WILL do that.

Nice post QS. I'm so sick of seeing the "what can I take" questions - I rarely waste my time answering them anymore.