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All I Can Think About Is 315!!!

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man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
 
Dude, I hit 315 for 15 the other night! What's holding you up? I tell you bro, it's all in your mind. As soon as you get over the idea of 3 wheels, you'll hit it no prob. I did read about your cycle a couple of weeks ago. Just work on your head. You'll not only get there, you'll go beyond. Best of luck to you Boogieman.
 
Silverbackgorilla said:
How much do you weigh satch?

I am assuming that is you in the avatar, and you look like you should be able to handle 315---
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right now i weigh 205-208.
 
It will come! I remember being stuck there... 275 for reps -- even 300 for reps.... then 315 would sit on my chest.

I use the reps x weight equation:
Max = Weight on Bar + (0.03 * Weight on Bar * Reps)

Using that, 225 x 13 ~= 275 x 4 ~= 315 x 1

If 315 isn't moving, you may want to play around with 225 and 275 as well (but yeah, there's also no substitute for feeling 315 every week too).

Thanks,

Mr. Plunkey
 
Hell yeah satch you can do it. I can still hit 315 off-cycle at 180lbs, on-cycle I've hit up to 335 for 4. Granted, bench is a decent lift for me, what with the midget-length arms and all, but you look jacked enough to handle it. It truly is a mental thing, I had huge mental blocks at 185, 225, 275, and 315. Now 365 is my struggle, every time I add a quarter or a plate it takes months to get over the fear.
 
Brotha im at the same spot. Ive been trying to hit my triceps and shoulders extra hard to give me any boost i can to get over the 315 hurdle. My goal is to get there by the new year. Good luck.

season7445
 
season7445 said:
Brotha im at the same spot. Ive been trying to hit my triceps and shoulders extra hard to give me any boost i can to get over the 315 hurdle. My goal is to get there by the new year. Good luck.

season7445
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yeah man..
i've been paying more attention to my delts/arms lately.
hopefully, that'll put me over the 315 mark soon.
 
From your avatar it looks like you could toss 315 around like a small child.

If its a mental block, just get a friend to load up your weights for you, and have him put a a garbage bag over them.

Youll probably put up 315 like it was 270.
 
315 was mental for me as well. once i put up 315, within a month and a half i was hitting 405 with a pause. that was when i was 18. after a couple of years of partying and drinking, i am just now gettin back strong. can get 315 for 12 for my second set
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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I hear ya man, I'm so close to 315 I can taste it. I plan to hit that and 405 on squats on my next cycle starting in the middle of December. I got 355 on squats while I've been off so I'm sure positive I'll make my goals in December. I've been concentrating a lot on incline barbell lately to get my delts ready for the load.
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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Have you thought about revamping your training methods? Using the westside method, with 1 speed/repetition day and 1 max effort day per week...most anyone will increase their poundages dramatically. Even natural lifters can up their bench with the proper training methods.
 
Switch over to Heavy Incline the next two workouts BEFORE benching..........I'll bet you crank it on that 3rd workout...........
 
satch you are the man you will have no problem getin that shit bro.i think one important thing is your partner pushing your ass.focus that mind and press that shit ;)
 
Just a reminder fellows....most people are either genetically stronger either pushing (bench) or pulling (back), but probably not equal at both. Chris Cormier is that way, so am I and Satch, it sounds like too. It's somewhat a genetic limitation, that we must work extra hard to get over.
 
HRT39 said:
Just a reminder fellows....most people are either genetically stronger either pushing (bench) or pulling (back), but probably not equal at both. Chris Cormier is that way, so am I and Satch, it sounds like too. It's somewhat a genetic limitation, that we must work extra hard to get over.
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With the boogieman's current recipe, genetics no longer come into play... :supercool
 
Throw some heavy negatives in some of your bench sets. 345-365 whatever you can control on the way down, have a spotter help you push it up for a few reps. Feel the weight, 315 will soon seem light and you'll push it. The burger would certainly help :p
 
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bw1 said:
Throw some heavy negatives in some of your bench sets. 345-365 whatever you can control on the way down, have a spotter help you push it up for a few reps. Feel the weight, 315 will soon seem light and you'll push it. The burger would certainly help :p
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ive hit my biggest benches and squats with heavy negative either the day of or the workout befor. bw1 said it perfect 345-365 and just go slow with a good spotter. im sure after you do let say 3 with 365 youll toss up 315 twice.

and then again maybe you should think of it as:

Satch 3:15 For Satch so loved the gym that he gave his one and only cycle, that whoever trains with him shall not perish but lift for those eternal gains.

amen
el vez
 
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jay_cutler1979 said:
315 was mental for me as well. once i put up 315, within a month and a half i was hitting 405 with a pause. that was when i was 18. after a couple of years of partying and drinking, i am just now gettin back strong. can get 315 for 12 for my second set
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90lbs in month and a half :rolleyes:
 
Its definately a head game. Just twisting the bar to get in position fucks with my head sometimes. I still struggle with 315 on the flat for more than 4. I had done dumbells for so long I couldn't bench anymore. The irony is I can hit 315 on the incline all day long.
It took working out with my buddy one day to get over 315 being 315. He warmed up with it for 35 reps. I felt like such a girl working myself up over that poundage. I felt even worse when a guy he bounces with hit 5 plates on the incline for some reps... then went to flat and repped out 6 plates and some change... he was 230 at 5'11". Now, I just get bullshit at the small number of plates I use and my strength is going up! LOL. Work out with some stronger guys and you will play to the level of the competition!
Good Luck bro!
ps. You've got the required equipment.. We can see it in your avatar.. just fucking hammer it man!
 
man i did the same thing for awhile where all i did was db's and then i got back on bench to find my strength on there was just gone... it has alot to do with just bio-mechanics of the movements. at first i was puzzled but then figured it out
 
One huge thing that is highly overlooked by people looking to increase their bench, is their back work. Good lats get the bar off your chest quickly, which increases the chance that you'll be able to lock the weight out. The heavy negatives are also a good idea. They always worked to get me past a plateau.
 
JKurz1 said:
AND.........another tool is to load up 3 and a quarter to 350 at the end of you last set and just hold it, locked out, as long as you can............

if that doesn't work........try this..............

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6498304/
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That will surly take his mind off of 315 but he's gona be thinking about that f'n burger for the next 24hrs.......can I get fries with that?
 
Satch is the shit! 315 is my next goal as well. I pushed 305 my last workout, but if try 315 i'll put it to bed on my chest!
 
like it was said b4 try some westside stuff...bar speed is real important 2..u need to explode the 315 as if it were 225..c where im comin from..
 
Be thankful you can at least bench....with 3 Lt shoulder surgeries the bench isn't even a consideration. Db, cables, HammerS and the smith M thats it.
 
you guys are crazy. I have been in the gym forever (seems like) and when I benched 260 I felt like I was the man. It is truly amazing that you can lift 300 plus pounds and anyone on here that can do that is in an elite class I promise you that. Everyone I know is trying to get 250 or 270 tops . All I can say is there is some strong mo fos on here and I hope I dont cut any of you off in traffic one day.
 
damn, it must be a horrible for you to change up your chest routine, without a form of bench in there huh. what were the surgeries for?

FknKnuckleHd said:
Be thankful you can at least bench....with 3 Lt shoulder surgeries the bench isn't even a consideration. Db, cables, HammerS and the smith M thats it.
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small but working on it said:
you guys are crazy. I have been in the gym forever (seems like) and when I benched 260 I felt like I was the man. It is truly amazing that you can lift 300 plus pounds and anyone on here that can do that is in an elite class I promise you that. Everyone I know is trying to get 250 or 270 tops . All I can say is there is some strong mo fos on here and I hope I dont cut any of you off in traffic one day.
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I agree all these dudes talking made me feel like the weakest biatch ever!!
 
have u ever heard of westside barbell? go to elitefts.com and find a basic template use it and ur bench will sky rocket. mine went up 50lbs in 2 months. and not to show u up or anythin but i did 315 for 12 when i was 19 n natural. but trust me on this westside shit its legit. the tough part will be havin the available equipment(ie. bands, chains, etc)
 
small but working on it said:
you guys are crazy. I have been in the gym forever (seems like) and when I benched 260 I felt like I was the man. It is truly amazing that you can lift 300 plus pounds and anyone on here that can do that is in an elite class I promise you that. Everyone I know is trying to get 250 or 270 tops . All I can say is there is some strong mo fos on here and I hope I dont cut any of you off in traffic one day.
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Sorry bro, this one made me laugh. I do realize that less than 5% of all the men on the planet can bench over 250, but in my gym we have at least 10 guys that are repping with 350. For example my last heavy chest day was 250x15, 285x12, 325x10, 375x6, and 405 for 3. BTW i'm at 208 right now.

Satch, there is no try! Just do that shit and get it over with!
 
SuperDawgy said:
Sorry bro, this one made me laugh. I do realize that less than 5% of all the men on the planet can bench over 250, but in my gym we have at least 10 guys that are repping with 350. For example my last heavy chest day was 250x15, 285x12, 325x10, 375x6, and 405 for 3. BTW i'm at 208 right now.

Satch, there is no try! Just do that shit and get it over with!
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Is that a fact that less than 5 percent of all men on the planet can bench over 250?
 
I always find it funny when subjects like this come up, guys start tossing out huge numbers of what they can lift, and for the most part, I dont buy it for a second. I've seen pics of some guys on here, and believe they can move the big numbers. But then I see pics of dudes with no pecs to speak of, talking about pushing weights that all the huge fuckers I know(myself included) couldnt touch. Just like the how big are your arms threads, everyone on the internet has 20" guns.....funny how it works out that way....
I would love to see some pics and/or videos to back some of these claims up....
 
Well, I'm not one of those guys NS. I don't think putting up 315 off-cycle is that impressive for a guy my size, especially considering bench is one of my better lifts. I sure as hell wish I could hit 405 though, that goal will be a long time coming I think... unless maybe I can harvest your muscle and use it for myself? :)
 
well, I am above the 250 range for men that dawgy talked about. I benched 430 with a shirt. never did 315 for 15 reps. My best was 225 for 28 reps, weighin in at 217
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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Shit bro! From the looks of your avi, you look like you should be reppin' 345!
Keep at it! Alot of it's just in your mind. I was stuck at 300 for a long time. Couldn't get passed it. So without me knowing it, my spotter popped on 315 and I thought I was pushin' 300, and I hit it!
I know it could have been a little dangerous, him doing that, but he would have been there for me if there would have been a problem.
 
Sounds like some haters are calling B.S. on some of the claims on this thread. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't lie about lifts. I just don't see the payoff in claiming to be able to lift this and that, and then hit the gym and not be able to perform. I pride myself on being strong, and I take that pride pretty seriously. I wasn't a talented bencher to start with, and it didn't happen for me overnight. I started training when I was 19, and I just "celebrated" my 36th birthday. I stand by my 315x15 claim. I think it's pretty damn good considering my currently clean status, and bodyweight of 245 pounds......
 
I would agree. Its mental. It seem like it took me forever to get there, then once there........its easy. I did 355 on incline for 1 rep tonight. But I weigh 275lbs, so that makes it al little easier. You'll get there bro.
 
Body weight and size play little parts. There is this bean pole kid that come to my gym, that can rep 295 like 10 times. I about shit myself. He weighs half that
 
yeah I have a buddy thats 5'8 and weighs 145. Before his first cycle his max bench was 305. He did his first cycle last march of deca 300 for 8 weeks and got up to 320 but then dropped back to 310 after the cycle and has maintained 310 ever since. In any case I think its incredible that he can bench more then double his body weight. i have never seen anyone like him. I mean theres guys on here taking grams+ of gear at 200+ lbs bidy weight, and they barely can put up 320. He has however been lifting since he was 13, and is now almost 23 so this might have something to do with it.
 
I can bench 265 lbs for 6 reps ( 4 reps alone and some assist from partner on the last 2 reps ) .

Keep in mind I consider myself natty by this point . ( last time I used gear was 2001 , low doses of EQ , winny and HGH for 8 weeks )


Victor
 
needsize said:
I always find it funny when subjects like this come up, guys start tossing out huge numbers of what they can lift, and for the most part, I dont buy it for a second. I've seen pics of some guys on here, and believe they can move the big numbers. But then I see pics of dudes with no pecs to speak of, talking about pushing weights that all the huge fuckers I know(myself included) couldnt touch. Just like the how big are your arms threads, everyone on the internet has 20" guns.....funny how it works out that way....
I would love to see some pics and/or videos to back some of these claims up....
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Exactly!

The rule to reading all these numbers is subtract anywhere from 50-100lbs off the claimed bench and you've got their real bench. I'm sure a few of the guys are telling the truth, but damn people over-exaggerate like crazy it's too funny.

We're talking benching with good strict form. I bet a lot of the guys claiming they bench these huge numbers are either bouncing the weight off the chest, doing half reps at best or getting some serious assistance from a spot.
 
needsize said:
I always find it funny when subjects like this come up, guys start tossing out huge numbers of what they can lift, and for the most part, I dont buy it for a second. I've seen pics of some guys on here, and believe they can move the big numbers. But then I see pics of dudes with no pecs to speak of, talking about pushing weights that all the huge fuckers I know(myself included) couldnt touch. Just like the how big are your arms threads, everyone on the internet has 20" guns.....funny how it works out that way....
I would love to see some pics and/or videos to back some of these claims up....
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Somehow, someway I will find a way to get a video of me squatting 405, although I doubt you were referring to me because I know you lift more than that. As for 315 on bench, even though I'm not there yet I don't consider that to be much, especially when I compare it to all of my friends. Hell, my smallest buddy, other than me, hits 365 on flats.
 
marshallmadman said:
Sounds like some haters are calling B.S. on some of the claims on this thread. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't lie about lifts. I just don't see the payoff in claiming to be able to lift this and that, and then hit the gym and not be able to perform. I pride myself on being strong, and I take that pride pretty seriously. I wasn't a talented bencher to start with, and it didn't happen for me overnight. I started training when I was 19, and I just "celebrated" my 36th birthday. I stand by my 315x15 claim. I think it's pretty damn good considering my currently clean status, and bodyweight of 245 pounds......
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are you calling me a hater bro, if so, thats pretty funny....I have backed up every claim I've ever made, ie my avatar and pics, and have posted videos deadlifting 525 x 7, squatting 455 x 7, benching 405 x 1, etc.

The board is full of guys with 20"+ arms, and that can bench over 405 for reps, and that I call bullshit on. Many have backed up their claims, but most have not. If all these claims were true, then I wouldnt be as well known on here as I am, as all these guys would be bigger and stronger than me

Lowest, I wasnt referring to you, in fact, you either androjunkie, the guys I'm referring to know who I am talking about. I would really like to see the bullshitters back up some claims, till then, I guess everyone is huge on the internet
 
I feel your pain satch.

The most I ever got up on bench was 295lbs x 1 with no spot. It makes me wonder how some of these guys get their numbers...what kind of form (or lack there of) they use. Bouncing bar off the chest, not even going down all the way to the chest etc.

But in their defense I've got a buddy who weighs in at 200lbs does sets of 5 reps with 345. He's a strong dude and all natural. His next target is 405.
 
btw, here is my video of 405, I believe bodyweight was around 245lbs
I know there are guys on here that could easily bang this out for reps, but the ones I know of have the physiques to prove it(ie, quadsweep)
405 x 1
 
I know you weren't referring to me NS, since my claims aren't impressive enough to be lies, lol. That, and you're a stand-up guy in general. Someday I'll be happy if I get within 50lbs of your size and/or lifts :)
 
Propz on the 405 Needsize, kool lil video, Im currently 210 and have gotten 315 up once before , I can bang out 275 for 6 good reps, but I still struggle with 315 for one good rep. I know it has to be a mental block for me 2
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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bro 270x4 is some nice weight indeed so don't feel bad about that. for your continued progress you may want to take some time to research good powerlifting technique. among other things they know how to recruit their lats in the movement, an incredibly powerful muscle group that is often lacking in benchers. that and keep building that tri strength up with things like close grip (shoulder-width i mean). i think westside has some really good training information on how to bring up a bench, lou simmons most definitely has some effective techniques bro. good luck to you my man!
 
notice on needsizes lift, nice slow negative down, bar to the chest but controlled dose not bounce it, strong on the rebound. Text book form.

Few guys can show case a lift like that.
 
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like I said there are some super strong mo fos out here. I am just glad women couldnt care less what I bench :qt: My lofty goal is 300 lbs once. Scary shit huh ? I will get there and hopefully will look like I can hit more weight than that. Like my name, small but working on it !! :)
 
thanks guys, I actually put up 370 x 5 this week in the same form, so I know my max is a lot more, I just dont like to do maxes, too much chance of getting hurt
 
needsize said:
thanks guys, I actually put up 370 x 5 this week in the same form, so I know my max is a lot more, I just dont like to do maxes, too much chance of getting hurt
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I hear you. I have actually never done a max single on BP or squat. In college I put up 365x2 BP and 365x10 squat but I'm pretty sure I couldn't hit those now. I'm hoping to hit 365x5 next year because I always wanted to BP 405 and squat 500...it was just never important enough to change my training to get there.
 
needsize said:
are you calling me a hater bro, if so, thats pretty funny....I have backed up every claim I've ever made, ie my avatar and pics, and have posted videos deadlifting 525 x 7, squatting 455 x 7, benching 405 x 1, etc.

The board is full of guys with 20"+ arms, and that can bench over 405 for reps, and that I call bullshit on. Many have backed up their claims, but most have not. If all these claims were true, then I wouldnt be as well known on here as I am, as all these guys would be bigger and stronger than me

Lowest, I wasnt referring to you, in fact, you either androjunkie, the guys I'm referring to know who I am talking about. I would really like to see the bullshitters back up some claims, till then, I guess everyone is huge on the internet
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I'm not really calling you a hater. I just knew that there would be a lot more of them coming out of the woodwork. I have read a lot of your posts in the past, and know that you aren't b.s.'ing because I have seen your pics. My original intent on posting to this thread was to perhaps supply Satch with some ideas that have helped me with my bench. In the future, I think I'll refrain from making any remarks about what I can do, until I have the equipment to film, download, and link up. There's always someone that tries to make themselves feel better by downing your accomplishments. I'm not going to say anything about the poundages that you claim. I'll just say that I lift more than you, but I don't look anywhere near as good. At the end of the day, I would trade my 315x15 bench even up for a good looking set of abs in a heartbeat.
 
marshallmadman said:
I'm not really calling you a hater. I just knew that there would be a lot more of them coming out of the woodwork. I have read a lot of your posts in the past, and know that you aren't b.s.'ing because I have seen your pics. My original intent on posting to this thread was to perhaps supply Satch with some ideas that have helped me with my bench. In the future, I think I'll refrain from making any remarks about what I can do, until I have the equipment to film, download, and link up. There's always someone that tries to make themselves feel better by downing your accomplishments. I'm not going to say anything about the poundages that you claim. I'll just say that I lift more than you, but I don't look anywhere near as good. At the end of the day, I would trade my 315x15 bench even up for a good looking set of abs in a heartbeat.
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I wasnt ripping on anyone in particular, and didnt doubt your 315 x 15. My point was that the claims I read on here, across the board are generally tough to believe. For example, on the "how big are your arms" threads, there are tons of guys posting up arms way bigger than mine. But when I post pics, many of the same guys are like "Holy shit, I wish I was that big", which doesnt add up. I have no doubt that there are many that can back up their claims, but at the same time I know there are also a lot that cant. I would never rip on someone because they could do better than me, in all my years here I have never done that because its just not me.

dial_tone, i am definitely with you on that one. When I hit a new max, its generally a full set, ie, this week I squatted 465 x 6, and benched 370 x 5, which were both pr's for me, but at this point I wouldnt dream of doing singles
 
I'm sorry satchboogie, but if your doing cycles like you say you are(1000mg. of sust. and 50mg. of d-bol/day) then there is something wrong with you if you can't hit 315 at your size. No offense, I just thought you looked like you could do reps with more than that. just my 2cc's
 
needsize said:
I wasnt ripping on anyone in particular, and didnt doubt your 315 x 15. My point was that the claims I read on here, across the board are generally tough to believe. For example, on the "how big are your arms" threads, there are tons of guys posting up arms way bigger than mine. But when I post pics, many of the same guys are like "Holy shit, I wish I was that big", which doesnt add up. I have no doubt that there are many that can back up their claims, but at the same time I know there are also a lot that cant. I would never rip on someone because they could do better than me, in all my years here I have never done that because its just not me.

dial_tone, i am definitely with you on that one. When I hit a new max, its generally a full set, ie, this week I squatted 465 x 6, and benched 370 x 5, which were both pr's for me, but at this point I wouldnt dream of doing singles
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Well stated, Needsize. You look fairly bulked up in your video, and I think 245 is the highest weight I have seen you boast. The arm size threads are funny. Just remember, a 17" arm ripped, trumps the 19" bulked up arm anyday.
 
I think the key is form here. Alot of guys manage to manipulate their form in a way the allows the weight to go up. IE. The bounce off the chest, ass off the bench, halfway down reps, spotter pulling on it like he's doing upright rows.

And these weight room hero's rant and rave afterward that they nailed 315. Benching a weight for me is when you are in complete control of the movement from start to finish. It has to be a fluid movement from start to finish and if your spotter touches the bar then "sorry" you just did not pull it.

Also look a satch's body, that is what bodybuilding is about, some may pull more then him but you could never tell by looking at him.
 
carlsky said:
I'm sorry satchboogie, but if your doing cycles like you say you are(1000mg. of sust. and 50mg. of d-bol/day) then there is something wrong with you if you can't hit 315 at your size. No offense, I just thought you looked like you could do reps with more than that. just my 2cc's
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Throw your pic up hoss.
 
lol, I don't have one right now but I will soon. I thought he looked big. I don't think anyone touch juice though if you can't get a measily 315 pound bench naturally. Anyone can get that bench with hard work and food. I would say the high 3's or low 4's is where you should start to juice to get better gains. I think many would agree with building a strong base before turning to steroids.
 
carlsky said:
lol, I don't have one right now but I will soon. I thought he looked big. I don't think anyone touch juice though if you can't get a measily 315 pound bench naturally. Anyone can get that bench with hard work and food. I would say the high 3's or low 4's is where you should start to juice to get better gains. I think many would agree with building a strong base before turning to steroids.
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Genetics plays a big part man, some people pull better some push better. I know kids with tooth pic arms that can rep 225 at 170 pounds. You look at their bird chests and lack of tris and wonder how, but it's all genetics.

Benching is not a true measure of strength either, it's a macho ego exercise. Give me deadlift numbers for some real power.
 
i know this romanian dude..
cool bro.. sensitive as fuck.. almost like a 12 year old innocent virgin..

anyhow..
6'0 tall..
335 pounds
benches 620x4 easily

didnt believe it til i saw it.
the bar curled!! it was nuts!!
 
620 x 4 is some mad weight...gosh damn, nice form NS , thanks for posting that. satch, just keep on pushing for that 315 doesn't happen over night as u already know.. good luck bud
 
marshallmadman said:
Well stated, Needsize. You look fairly bulked up in your video, and I think 245 is the highest weight I have seen you boast. The arm size threads are funny. Just remember, a 17" arm ripped, trumps the 19" bulked up arm anyday.
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I was actually 256lbs at about 11% on monday, the 245lbs in that video was between 12-13%, it was about 8 months ago. The arms in my avatar are only 18.5, they were just under 19.5 this week

greatest is right about benching, a heavy bench isnt necessarily a sign of anything. I couldnt bench 315 for a single when I started to juice, and that was after 10 years of training, but my bench has always sucked. I had 17" arms at 7% bf, 185lbs, 5'8", and could deadlift 550 for a raw single, but a shitty bench
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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I'm not about to read all these replies. If this has been said then I'll just back it up some more.

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

Try this for 3 sets of 4. When you do it over and over bump the weight 5-10 more pounds and do this 3 x 4. Bump the weight again.

You'll be amazed at how quick you'll hit your goal.
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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Something that's worked really well for me on incline and flat barbell is the Muscle Media "How to gain 50" program. I run it for the whole cycle for low reps 6,5,4,3,2's. Anyway, I get crazy gains w/ this program google search it.
 
satchboogie said:
man i feel like the end of this cycle will get me there...

i put up 270x4 quite easily..

but 315x1 is still a struggle.
thats the only thing thats been on my mind for the last few hours...
anyhow, just thought i'd share.
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Bro, you got to be kidding me ! I'm 5'8, 8-9 bf, 170 in my avatar, and I was benching 315 x 3 times, 2 sets, 275 x 8, 245 x 10, and 225 x 20 - 2 sets. And I was only doing eq and winny! Let's get your groove on bro...you already took out the mighty paulo...(cough) .. lol..just giving ya crap satch, u'll get there fast..
 
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needsize said:
I was actually 256lbs at about 11% on monday, the 245lbs in that video was between 12-13%, it was about 8 months ago. The arms in my avatar are only 18.5, they were just under 19.5 this week

greatest is right about benching, a heavy bench isnt necessarily a sign of anything. I couldnt bench 315 for a single when I started to juice, and that was after 10 years of training, but my bench has always sucked. I had 17" arms at 7% bf, 185lbs, 5'8", and could deadlift 550 for a raw single, but a shitty bench
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This is true, some guys go to the gym and all the do is bench, but they look like crap. There form sucks and there bouncing that shit of there chest so hard it's going to crack something. They don't ever train legs etc, but brag about there bench. For me my bench has been pretty good, 425x1 390x3, 365x7, 315x13 strict form slow on the way down touch and up, but my deads suck. I can almost bench as much as my deads, got to work on those damn! Point is it's about overall developement and Satch, NS, looks like you guys are doing pretty damn good in that department. Satch it doesn't matter what you can bench, just what it "looks" like you can. You don't carry a barbell down the beach.
 
bw1 said:
Satch it doesn't matter what you can bench, just what it "looks" like you can. You don't carry a barbell down the beach.
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lol. That's so true. but dam, your benches are pretty strong. 315x13 !!
 
I believe Powerlifting and Body building are two different things a require different training methods.

I really try not to pay attention to the numbers and rely more on how I feel.

I feel that once I start thinking about the numbers that's when I mentally start limiting myself.
 
I benched 275 or 285 at a weight of 173 when I was 18. It took a couple small cycles to get to 365x2. My first cycle was just 100 Dbol tabs and the second was 10cc of test & another 100 Dbol tabs over about 8-9 weeks.
 
Dial_tone said:
I benched 275 or 285 at a weight of 173 when I was 18. It took a couple small cycles to get to 365x2. My first cycle was just 100 Dbol tabs and the second was 10cc of test & another 100 Dbol tabs over about 8-9 weeks.
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wow bro, thanks for that avatar! :) :p
 
Creepusmaximus said:
Dude sorry to say but if you look like that, 315 shouldn't be a problem. QUOTE]One thing ive noticed goin to the gym is size dont mean shit.just because u look big doest mean u can put up big #s. and just because your small doesnt mean u cant put up big #s.
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shit, I seen a black kid, ripped than more people I have seen on winstrol and tren, and he was benching 245 for 10 easily. He is a basketball player, all those guys have crazy genetics! I hate black people, they can be ripped and strong when we try harder to get less gains.
 
needsize said:
thanks guys, I actually put up 370 x 5 this week in the same form, so I know my max is a lot more, I just dont like to do maxes, too much chance of getting hurt
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Good numbers bro.

I get the idea that when i put up my last post, i started something. Let me clarify. I've been strong on bench since high school. I set the school bench record my senior year (92') with 360 at 156 pounds. I hit 405 at 178 my senior year in college. When i said that i can hit 405 for 3, it's not that i'm tooting my own horn...just stating the facts. I will never look as good as NS does because he has killer genetics and a passion for bodybuilding that i can't fathom. But...apparently on bench, i am stronger. Now legs are another topic all together. 400 is a great squat for me. What can i say my legs suck ass! I saw someone talk about WestSide? If you want to increase your bench, listen to Louie Simmons...i trained with his guys once and added 30 pounds on bench in under a month.

*18.5" arms and 48" chest, 5'8" and 212 this morning.*
 
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SuperDawgy said:
Good numbers bro.

I get the idea that when i put up my last post, i started something. Let me clarify. I've been strong on bench since high school. I set the school bench record my senior year (92') with 360 at 156 pounds. I hit 405 at 178 my senior year in college. When i said that i can hit 405 for 3, it's not that i'm tooting my own horn...just stating the facts. I will never look as good as NS does because he has killer genetics and a passion for bodybuilding that i can't fathom. But...apparently on bench, i am stronger. Now legs are another topic all together. 400 is a great squat for me. What can i say my legs suck ass! I saw someone talk about WestSide? If you want to increase your bench, listen to Louie Simmons...i trained with his guys once and added 30 pounds on bench in under a month.

*18.5" arms and 48" chest, 5'8" and 212 this morning.*
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that is some impressive benching, I've never had it easy on bench like that, for me it was all lower body, deads and squats

for you guys that are saying that because he weighs "x" amount, he should be able to lift a certain amount, because you can......I really hope you guys arent serious because that is beyond retarded. Unless you are a powerlifter, then who gives a shit how much you lift. And if you are a powerlifter, then you guys are posting some piss poor numbers. At a bodyweight of 200lbs I could deadlift over 500lbs for reps, no belt straps or anything, so since you guys weigh around the same, then I guessto back that up.....

And even funnier, you guys talking about you weigh this much, and can bench so much at your weight, I suppose you guys squat 100lbs more than that for reps, and deadlift 200lbs more for reps. Because unless you are a beach jerk that benches 5x per week to build up a big chest for the beach, then thats how much you should be doing for the other exercises
 
needsize said:
that is some impressive benching, I've never had it easy on bench like that, for me it was all lower body, deads and squats
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Funny how that happens. I used to think that it was a myth and that people were stronger on certain lifts because they trained harder on them and i'm sure to some degree it's true, but when i started power lifting i found that my bench and deadlift always went up faster than my squats. It took me almost four years of really kicking my own ass to hit 400 on squats. It's bad when your bench is bigger than your squat! LOL.

*steals NS's leg genes and implants them into his own*

For what it's worth, i still feel weak as shit because my training partner is a beast. It's a humbling thing to get on a bench right after you see someone hit 500 for 3.
 
Damn, I need one of you monsters for a training partner... it's hard to push yourself when no one else lifts as much as you do. I lift at my college rec center, and sadly, I've yet to see one person there outbench me, and I'm not that impressive. I need a big-ass monster like NS or something to make me feel weak as hell, that way I can guilt myself into lifting heavier again!
 
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