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after cutting cycle update

You are making progress man! Can definitely tell.

As a general rule however, I wouldn't advise anyone to start a bulking phase, 'clean' or 'dirty' until they get to 12-13% bf or lower. I would keep doing what you are doing for awhile. Keep it up!

Different percentages for women of course.
 
I know Im still a bit high to cut but I want that extra weight so when I cut down for the show I wont be as small,even if I get 10lbs of lbm out of this cycle I would be happy

the show is november 20,I think size wise I am fine for the novice class,I just need to cut up which will be a hardcore cutter of 7days a week cardio and a tighter diet then I previously finished, with a base of test and t3 and clen used on and off through out
 
Well first I would have to say you really need to look at your diet and training. For 5 years and a cycle you should have more mass then that. It looks like you have a diet high in calories, but too low in protein. I won't comment any more on that because you will have some excuse I'm sure.

As for the T3. 12.5 mcg is retarted, so is anything under 50mcg. Trust me, I have them prescribed to me. It usually taked 50-75mcg a day to get a person into NORMAL ranges, although 75mcg will prbably put you failry high in that range. Higher then that and muscle and strength starts to go as well. Also, all these people that say low doses don't supress should shut the fuck up. It will shut you down just like 100mg of test a week will. Way too much mis-information about t3 out there.


Also, your bf in the after pictures is around 22-24%. That is very close to what you are. I test people a lot, trust me your not under 20%.
 
i agree. post up your diet and training regime.

you have definetly made progess. it say you went from 22ish to 19ish.

i wouldn't suggest trying to gain mass until you drop a lot more pounds.

i also would hold of on the competition. i don't think youll be ready in time


for now, post up diet/training. we'll see how we can help.
 
not sure th lowest I have been since I never worried about dieting before I just wanted to get big,I started 5 years ago at 130lbs and much higher in bf thats for sure,so Ive come a long way since

the diet I am going on to clean bulk is this

meal1
oatmeal
protein shake-made with 2 cups milk


meal2
4 whole eggs
2 egg whites
1 whole wheat bagel

meal3
Tuna on whole wheat wrap

meal4
Chicken breast/w veggies

meal5 Turkey on whole wheat wrap

meal6 post workout
Shake-made w/2cups milk
w2tbsp flax

Meal7 can of tuna on whole wheat wrap

roughly just under 2500cals with roughly 250pro,230carb and 80 fat


training is fine just some bodyparts are lagging ,but have been catching up and getting stronger,but my routine is based around the 5x5

Im still shooting for the show and if I dont make it,next year Ill do it,but I am gearing up to work for that,my bulk is just going to be a month to a month and a half depending on gains and if I add anymore bodyfat,I gain easy so that goal is realistic

and I agree my diet has been usually 150-200grams prot a day,never really went alot higher,but Im getting that under wraps this time and sticking to good diets from now on,no more dirty shit bulks,Im tired of being a fat shit
 
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150-200 grams of protien is not enough. simple as that.

try eating 300-350 grams.

the more protien i eat, the more i found myself growing. (and were not talking about it being from more cals, cause i tried increasing carbs first).

i weigh 211 5'9 @ 9% and i eat 300-325 grams. ive gone as high as 400 grams, but didn't feel anything different.

moral off story, you need more protein
 
I def agree thast why I have upped it to the 250 area,some days I do eat more but this is force feeding now as i was sick a few weeks ago and my appetite isnt what it use to be,I plan to add b12 and hope that helps
 
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