well, i gotta tell ya guys. i'm a little shocked. i've used that cycle with good success before. it seems for my body (i stress this is my body) any particular compound stops being effective at 6 weeks. that's why i cycle them that way. as for PCT? i've never done it. now before you guys flip out, maybe you should hear a couple of things. been doin this a long time. stayed on that cycle without coming off for 7 years (yes 7 years). got popped for trafficking in 2002 and spent 3 years in the big house. got bloodwork done inside and the only things bad were blood pressure and lipids were a little off. after 1 year inside, all of my levels were back to normal. nuts were fine. i was 34 at the time. came out and have kept dosages low and focused mainly on the food. went overboard on that last cycle attempt because i wasn't paying attention. taking 2 drol and 1cc per day didn't seem that bad. the only problem was that the 1cc was a mixture of prop,tren, and masteron. i'll probably only use test prop instead of E or C or sust from now on. if you'll notice, most of the compounds used are quickly out of the body (except the eq). if something goes bad, it's easy to clean out. if any of you guys doubt my experience or time on this board just ask mustang18. he'll tell you i been around a long time. right now, i'm lucky enough to be coached by Ian harrison. keep your eyes on flex magazine. they're doing an article on him and his new gym. you'll see me in a pic comparing biceps with him. the article should be coming out soon...