33yrs. old and............

[Twoguns]

who is to say that if a dolphin didn't have hands that it wouldn't milk a cow and drink milk

 

[qstorm]

Man if you think thats bad, try having it since 9, I am 33 and any dairy products whatsoever I am at the bathroom in 15 mins, thats how bad I have it. Then to top it off early this year if found out i have IBS. ( too much spicy food)
Well you can take those lactaid pills before you eat(they work) pain in the butt to remember to take them everywhere you go, so I deal with the consequences.

 

[blueta2]

I'm at work right now, but when I get home i'll get into more detail. Let me guess...are you part of the PETA group?

You sat here and stated I know nothing about science or the digestive track, but yet you throw a bunch of unscientific links to sites such as Mercola to me?....LOL! That guy is the biggest quack I have ever seen. You should see some of the bright stuff he writes outside of the milk industry as well....like on Aspartame. He uses no science behind anything he writes.

BTW...I AM a Nutritionist and Food Scientist.

Show me one piece of evidence that ALL people are lactose intolerant at birth and cannot produce these enzymes on their own. Also, I never stated that 'some' people do not suffer from the condition of having Lactose-intolerance at birth, nor did I state that some people such as A Creed, can't develop problems later on in life. For these people, the simple solution is to cut back or eliminate lactose. Any retard knows this. However, those who are not born with this condition, or do not have any symptoms of it, CAN drink milk without lactose causing a problem. Fiber gives people gas, should we not eat this as well? That's like saying we have to drink blood to get Iron....lol.

If you think the human body has not evolved over the years to adapt to changes, then you know nothing about digestion yourself. If you think the human digestive tract/body cannot produce enzymes for digestion of the different foods we eat, then you are the one that does not have a clue. The body is very capable of producing these enzymes unless they are genetically deficient from them at birth. Again, show me the evidence that EVERYBODY is lacking these enzymes to break down a simple Glucose:galactose molecule?

I never stated that there were no other food sources for calcium...you must have got that mixed up reading some of them pseudo-science sites you recommeneded to me.

BMJ

Well either you're a liar or a very bad nutritionist, not to mention, can't read. I never said everyone was lactose intolerant at birth. I said once we are weaned off of milk as babies, our bodies do not produce the enzyme to break down lactose.
And no I am not part of PETA. Why, cause I don't drink milk, I am part of PETA?
You talk big, but you don't make a hell of a lot of sense.
Ever hear of Beano? Do you know what that is? It's an enzyme we force into our bodies when we get gas from eating veggies. Why? Well b/c again, most of us do not have the enzymes to break down veggies like cauliflower.
That is all I'm going to say of this subject. Thanks for your insightful jargon though

 

[redguru]

Well either you're a liar or a very bad nutritionist, not to mention, can't read. I never said everyone was lactose intolerant at birth. I said once we are weaned off of milk as babies, our bodies do not produce the enzyme to break down lactose.
And no I am not part of PETA. Why, cause I don't drink milk, I am part of PITA?
You talk big, but you don't make a hell of a lot of sense.
Ever hear of Beano? Do you know what that is? It's an enzyme we force into our bodies when we get gas from eating veggies. Why? Well b/c again, most of us do not have the enzymes to break down veggies like cauliflower.
That is all I'm going to say of this subject. Thanks for your insightful jargon though

He also said your cited works were not peer-reviewed. Why not use the magic 8-ball as your guide?

 

[blueta2]

He also said your cited works were not peer-reviewed. Why not use the magic 8-ball as your guide?

oh hush! My guide is taken from serious researchers as well. That was just the gist of info that is consistent.
I am not against milk drinkers, I was just offering up the knowledge I learned about the subject. Take it or don't, I'm not pushing my opinion down any ones throat.

 

[silver_shadow]

blueta2: go through this link:
http://www.cambridge.org/us/books/kiple/lactose.htm

Genetics

The mechanisms controlling lactase production were disputed for many years. Some researchers, drawing on studies of gene regulation in bacteria, argued in the 1960s that lactase was a substrate-inducible enzyme; that is, that lactase production was believed to be stimulated by the presence of its substrate, lactose. In this view, populations that did not use milk as adults lost the ability to produce lactase, whereas groups that did consume milk and milk products retained lactase capability.

Biochemical studies cast doubt on this theory, and family studies have demonstrated that lactase production is controlled by an autosomal gene, recently located on chromosome 2. Persistence of lactase production is a dominant trait (Buller and Grand 1990; Arola and Tamm 1994). Following the terminology suggested by Gebhard Flatz (1987), the two alleles are designated LAC*P for lactase persistence and LAC*R for normal adult lactase restriction. The LAC locus appears to be a regulatory gene that reduces lactase synthesis by reducing the transcription of messenger RNA (Arola and Tamm 1994). Persons inheriting LAC*P from both parents would have lactase persistence into adulthood; those getting LAC*R alleles from both parents would display lactase restriction as adults. Heterozygotes would get different alleles and be LAC*P/LAC*R, but since LAC*P is dominant, lactase activity and ability to digest milk would persist beyond childhood.

the theory you put forward that humans who have been weaned off milk cease to produce lactase has been found erroneous... it is an old theory but the myth persists. they also mention humans evolving to be able to drink milk in to adulthood.

furthermore - i'm around 230lbs, so i need a whole lot more protein than i can get from a couple of glasses of soy milk - there's only so much of red meat and whole eggs i can tolerate eating and i'm not a fan of protein powders. i don't know about almond milk - cows milk is dirt cheap. and i'm not even the biggest around here - there are guys here all the way up to 300lbs who obviously need way more protein. milk is just the most sensible option for those who CAN digest it.

 

[LAN T]

newsflash...every human is technically lactose intolerant. As adults, we do not have the ezymes to break up lactose. Just some people feel the effects more than others.
My Gastro told me, milk is for babies. We are the only adult mammals that drink milk. You will not see any full grown mammal other than humans take dairy.
Soy milk or almond milk is a great alternative.

newsflash: WRONG!!

 

[blueta2]

newsflash: WRONG!!

newsflash: prove me wrong

 

[sweatandscience]

Doesn't soy protein promote estrogen production, or was that just a bogus study?

I read it like a year ago, but don't remember reading anything else about it since.

I sure hope not. I'd really like to start trying more soy products.

I hope all that stuff about milk isn't true and is just junk science, because I can't imagine life without that jug.

 

[mikefear]

estrogen, for the lose.