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Catman22

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Hi Guys,

I am a semi pro rugby player and I am 22 years old. I have been training solidly since I was around 16, I train well and have a good diet and have consistently increased my weight, strength and muscle def over the years (all naturally).

My gains have come to a bit of a hault over the last few weeks and I began researching AAS, after weeks of research I have decided to take an anavar only cycle for 8 weeks, at 60mg per day.

I am currently 5'10, 216lbs and around the 17% bf mark.

My current PBs are:
Dead lift - 440lbs x 5reps
Weighted Pull ups - +25lbs x 7 reps
Bench Press - 275lbs x 5 reps
Standing Military Press - 155lbs x 6 reps
Squat - 385lbs x 5reps

I will be starting this cycle on Mon 21st June and Im hoping for the following results over 8 weeks:
Increase all of the above lifts by 25lbs - 50lbs
Increase lean muscle mass
Up weight to around 225 - 230lbs
Decrease bf to around 12%

These are my goals and I will be logging my thoughts, feelings, improvements and any sides that I may encounter over the next 8 weeks.

Any thoughts, advice questions please post and I will try to reply to you as soon as possible.

Cheers
 
Ok Guys,

So I have taken my 1st dose of anavar today (9.30am) and done my 1st training session which was back, calves and forearms.
I have not felt any different today after my 1st dose of var (30mg) not that I was expecting to but just fyi.
The training session went really well, there was a small progression in every lift from last week (this was possibly due to the fact that last weeks session was a poor one, and pretty much confirmed my thoughts about going on my 1st ever cycle in the 1st place. But hey, progression is progression all the same).
I feel good and after all my research I am ready to go into the following 8weeks with optimism.

This AM i took milk thistle and some saw palmetto and will be supplementing with tribullus, creatine and L-Glutamine also throughout this cycle.

I am just about to take my 2nd dose for the day now (7.30pm) and I am looking forward to my crossfit session tomorrow, Im not expecting to see much from the var yet, but would be intersting if I got some extra pumps and felt more energetic as early as day 2.

As always any questions or comments please feel free to post.
Cheers
 
Day 2,

Felt fresh this morning and had no trouble getting to sleep last night which is good. I wasnt sure if my sleeping patterns were going to be interupted as I have heard of this during my research, also I have been really hungry for the most part of the day so experiencing no lull in appitite either. (although as stated yesterday Im not really expecting to see much of anything for the first week or so)

Today I did my weekly cross fit style work out which consisted of 10 pull ups, 20 press ups, 30 sit ups and 40 squats for 5 rounds.

My previous best time in this particular workout was around the 20min mark, today I managed it in just over 16 and a half minutes which I was very happy with. I felt a good pump in the workout but I cant really put that on the var as the workout itself is a high intesity pump enducing workout.

Cheers
 
Catman22 said:
Day 2,

Felt fresh this morning and had no trouble getting to sleep last night which is good. I wasnt sure if my sleeping patterns were going to be interupted as I have heard of this during my research, also I have been really hungry for the most part of the day so experiencing no lull in appitite either. (although as stated yesterday Im not really expecting to see much of anything for the first week or so)

Today I did my weekly cross fit style work out which consisted of 10 pull ups, 20 press ups, 30 sit ups and 40 squats for 5 rounds.

My previous best time in this particular workout was around the 20min mark, today I managed it in just over 16 and a half minutes which I was very happy with. I felt a good pump in the workout but I cant really put that on the var as the workout itself is a high intesity pump enducing workout.

Cheers
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all i can say is good luck with your cycle mate all the best .:)
 
this all looks good to me. nice work in planning.
 
Thanks all for your support!

Thanks stevesmi I will take a look at that.

Nicolaf, I would agree that 8 weeks would be a long cycle if i were running a harsher oral (eg dbol) but according to my research var is relatively mild and should be ok for this length of time.
But the truth is I dont know until I try it, so if I do come into any problems earlier than 8 weeks I will let you all know so as not to make the same mistake!

Thanks again for reading and for your support.
Cheers
 
Hi all,
This isnt my day 3 post just an add to some info about me.
I have recieved a few private messages asking me about my diet throughout this cycle. This is great and I have replied to all these pms, and will be happy to do the same in the future (happy to help and happy for any advice)

But just as a guideline this is a typical days food for me:

Breakfast: Mass gainer, brown toast with peanut butter and jam

Pre work out: all in one shake with milk

Post work out: all in one shake and seperate creatine, carbs and electrolyte shake.

Lunch: Chicken breast and mayo sandwhiches (brown bread)

Dinner: Varies usually a large meal (pasta/rice, with meat and sauce)

Before sleeping: protein shake with milk and spoonful of peanut butter

( I own my own protein company/brand so Im not paying for shakes, makes it easier on the pocket lol)
I also drink around 3-4 litres of water a day.
 
hello if i was you i would add some more good fats maybe,extra virgin olive oil to your shakes ,i done this and seen a differance i personally think good fats are just as important as protien .
 
mochara said:
hello if i was you i would add some more good fats maybe,extra virgin olive oil to your shakes ,i done this and seen a differance i personally think good fats are just as important as protien .
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Thanks for the advice,

I do take omega 3, 6 and 9 caps,
cod liver oil caps
and CLA

Which I would imagine should boost my healthy fat intake, I take these in the morning and evening.
Plus depending on what my evening meal is I usually cook the meat with some olive oil.
But I will keep that in mind and try to increase my healthy fat intake. I agree they play a large part in a balanced diet.

When you say you saw a difference on them was that when you were taking var or just genrally?

Cheers
 
Jeremy24 said:
How are you feeling on this cycle.....Good pumps, muscle hardening look? Vascularity?
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Only Just coming to the end of my 3rd day today so its hard to say if there has been any drastic change. I took some photos the day before I started the cycle and I intend to take some more at the end of week 4, 8 and at the end of my pct. So hopefully you will be able to judge the aesthetic improvements yourself.

Did my 2nd heavy weights session of the week today and again I progressed on all of my lifts from last week, be it an increase in weight or an increase in number of reps on the same weight. Although all of these progressions were slight it is still a step in the right direction, and iff I can keep progressing on all my lifts at this rate it will stand me in good stead, it is also less likely to be obvious that I have been on anything.

In terms of side effects still nothing to report so far
Cheers
 
Hi Guys,

Not an aweful lot to report today...
I did an extra workout today and worked on my arms, I did 3 super sets of bis and tris.
I then played squash for just over an hour.

I did not notice too much in way of a pump during the squash and as before its hard to tell how much of the pump for the super sets was from the var. If it did give me anything it was not dramatically different to anything I have experienced before.
Not feeling any loss of libido as the last two days have gone without a hitch with the mrs.
So watch this space i suppose.

If anyone wants to chime in with their experiences on var (how long before you started noticing improvements in gym and or sides) please do...
BUMP

Cheers
 
digit0x said:
I've done a few var only cycles. No regrets. Cheers
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What sort of results did you see?
How long into the cycle before you saw anything from the var?
Would you have done anything different to improve your cycle?

Thanks a lot for your input,
Cheers
 
Besides the pump it will take around 2 weeks to start feeling a little stronger, you might go your first week wondering if it's real. By 3 weeks you'll know. I'm on my second time around and I know I need to try and get more sleep. That will prob be my biggest downfall. First time around I was gettig between 8 and 9 hours sleep. Now I'm lucky if I get a solid 6.
 
Snyrx7 said:
Besides the pump it will take around 2 weeks to start feeling a little stronger, you might go your first week wondering if it's real. By 3 weeks you'll know. I'm on my second time around and I know I need to try and get more sleep. That will prob be my biggest downfall. First time around I was gettig between 8 and 9 hours sleep. Now I'm lucky if I get a solid 6.
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Good info very useful thanks mate.
Yea i trust my source, but was starting to wonder.
So hopeully will see some improvements in 2weeks time.
I sleep well usually get at least 8hours.
Cheers
 
So its the end of week one.
So far there is nothing extreme to report. I weighed in yesterday and have put on 2 1/2 lbs this week.
This could be due to the fact that I am very wary of my diet as this is my 1st cycle, or it could be the var kicking in?
All of my lifts have increased slightly throughout the week and I am feeling good.
Hopefully some more noticable increases in strength will come over the next week or so.
Cheers
 
Week 2 begins!
It seems like much of the same so far. Yet again today was back, calves and fore arms, and yet again I managed to progress positively on each of the lifts done today.
Notably I managed to add 10kg to my repping weight of dead lifts today and added 5kg to my PB. I hope that these increases are mirrored in my other workouts this week.
Cheers
 
Catman22 said:
What sort of results did you see?
How long into the cycle before you saw anything from the var?
Would you have done anything different to improve your cycle?

Thanks a lot for your input,
Cheers
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First one was a bit of an experiment. Made a solid 5 lb gain that never came off as well as strength increases, although those did shed a little afterwards.

As far as when I started noticing: I have a bad habit of getting into a stagnant routine. However, it is also helpful for me to tell how much benefit I am reaping from any particular supplement. I noticed small increases in endurance through 7 days. Around day 9 my lifts started increasing dramatically. 14 days cardio was on the up (along with crippling forearm pumps). Things continued to increase steadily till week 4 and they leveled off around 6.

Expensive but worth it.
 
Nothing wrong with 8 weeks var. The problem with this thread is there is a forum for steroid logs. only the forum is plat only. I am thinking of moving it but I dont want to force you to go plat. I am going to have to move this sooner or later though. rules are rules my friend.
 
Yea Im taking 5g creatine pre and post workout.

Thanks for your input digit0x, Im on day 9 now, and if yesterday wasnt a one off it looks like those dramatic strength increases are on their way!
Sorry need to, I didnt realise there was a forum specifically for logs?
So what shall I do cos I had no intention of turning platinum (moneys tight as it is!), should I stop with the log, or if you move it to plat can i still update it?

Cheers
 
Damn, just started a Var/Tbol cycle and am in day 2. Hope I can still read this thread. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I would but I am overseas with the military and just don't have the time.
 
Catman22 said:
Yea Im taking 5g creatine pre and post workout.

Thanks for your input digit0x, Im on day 9 now, and if yesterday wasnt a one off it looks like those dramatic strength increases are on their way!
Sorry need to, I didnt realise there was a forum specifically for logs?
So what shall I do cos I had no intention of turning platinum (moneys tight as it is!), should I stop with the log, or if you move it to plat can i still update it?

Cheers
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Its all good bro. I will let the thread ride. One exception and thats it though. I see log threads popping up all over our aas forum and its hammer time :evil:
 
Back Pumps!
So today was my 1st pre season training session for rugby, it was a standard grueler with long hard runs, I completed the 1st few runs with ease and was feeling very fit and strong, however as the runs ticked on my pack started tightening up!
This is something that I have had trouble with in the past, usually when I was at my heaviest.
I am currently the heaviest I have ever been, and havnt done any long rnning sessions for a month or so, so Im hoping this was the case and it wasnt the anavar.
If anyone has had any trouble with back pumps preventing long runs while on var I would love to hear your experience, and any tips you may have for avoiding them?
Cheers all.

P.s. thanks for your support 428scj, hopefully I will be allowed to keep writing, and you to keep reading. Keep up the good work with the forces mate, proud of you all out there.
 
painful pumps can be taken care of by using a combo of
Taurine,electrolytes and Vitamin E complex,Alpha Lipoic Acid, calcium and magnesium.


steroids=Increased Blood Volume,Increased blood pressure, Increased Sporadic irregular "Gas exchange", and muscle cramps.

Taurine supplementation= Better Ion Flux, Nutrient-Gated Transport which= momentary better blood volume regulation

Taurine supplementation= decreased Epinephrine which= decreased blood pressure

Taurine supplementation= Better Gas exchange

In studies taurine keeps potassium and magnesium inside the cell while keeping excessive sodium out. In this sense, it works like a diuretic. Because it aids the movement of potassium, sodium, and calcium in and out of the cell, taurine has been used as a supplementation for epileptics as well as for people who have uncontrollable facial twitches. In studies taurine depletion decreases the relaxation of vascular smooth muscle

Magnesium and calcium is required for the healthy function of muscles tension! When you feel "Tight" to the point of pain this is do to a lack of Mag+cal or a improper flow of Mag+cal through the muscles.

Hence way this mix works so well to help with painful pumps!.
You can get all of what you need in one serving of muscle replenisher + a banana mixed in with it. Drick this pre work out and post work out and problem solved!!! please trust me!!! Muscle Replenisher
 
needtogetaas said:
painful pumps can be taken care of by using a combo of
Taurine,electrolytes and Vitamin E complex,Alpha Lipoic Acid, calcium and magnesium.


steroids=Increased Blood Volume,Increased blood pressure, Increased Sporadic irregular "Gas exchange", and muscle cramps.

Taurine supplementation= Better Ion Flux, Nutrient-Gated Transport which= momentary better blood volume regulation

Taurine supplementation= decreased Epinephrine which= decreased blood pressure

Taurine supplementation= Better Gas exchange

In studies taurine keeps potassium and magnesium inside the cell while keeping excessive sodium out. In this sense, it works like a diuretic. Because it aids the movement of potassium, sodium, and calcium in and out of the cell, taurine has been used as a supplementation for epileptics as well as for people who have uncontrollable facial twitches. In studies taurine depletion decreases the relaxation of vascular smooth muscle

Magnesium and calcium is required for the healthy function of muscles tension! When you feel "Tight" to the point of pain this is do to a lack of Mag+cal or a improper flow of Mag+cal through the muscles.

Hence way this mix works so well to help with painful pumps!.
You can get all of what you need in one serving of muscle replenisher + a banana mixed in with it. Drick this pre work out and post work out and problem solved!!! please trust me!!! Muscle Replenisher
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Great info!!! thanks very much need to!
Its advice like this that made me first join ef, I will definately use this advice for the remainder of my cycle and appreciate the time you have take to help me out.
Cheers
 
Catman22 said:
Great info!!! thanks very much need to!
Its advice like this that made me first join ef, I will definately use this advice for the remainder of my cycle and appreciate the time you have take to help me out.
Cheers
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throw in some linberg milk thistle and you have a killer combo for back pumps
 
RADAR said:
throw in some linberg milk thistle and you have a killer combo for back pumps
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I take milk thistle extract twice daily (I try to take it around 4 hours avter my var)
Whats the difference between milk thistle extract and linberg milk thistle? Or is this just a brand of milk thistle?

And thanks again to need to, placed an order for some taurine, ala and vit E poders to mix with my isotonics before and after training.
Cheers
 
Well it doesnt look like the strength increases shown on monday were a one off!
After my chest workout yesterday my weights have all increased again, notably 10kg on my weighted dip and 5kg on my bench press! Things are looking up!!
Now to try the taurine, ala and banana before tonights pre season, hopefully the pumps wont be too bad this time!
Cheers
 
After my second pre season workout, the pumps have died down thanks to need to's advice. I supplemented with electrolytes, taurine, ala and a banana. The session was still tough but My back held out which is a big positive!
Leg session today. Lets hope those strength increases keep going in the right direction!
Cheers
 
I've just started my second Var cycle. Had great results from my first cycle (50mg ed, 6 weeks), gained about 12lbs, strength and endurance increased 15-20%. Took 6 weeks off, lost 4lbs and about 5% in strength and endurance.
I had a few sides, but nothing bad enough to stop me going again, ie mild acne, some sleep disruption.
 
bassking said:
I've just started my second Var cycle. Had great results from my first cycle (50mg ed, 6 weeks), gained about 12lbs, strength and endurance increased 15-20%. Took 6 weeks off, lost 4lbs and about 5% in strength and endurance.
I had a few sides, but nothing bad enough to stop me going again, ie mild acne, some sleep disruption.
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Thanks a lot for the input bassking, glad to hear of your results, as they are very similar to what I am looking for.
If I can get anywhere near 20% strength increase I will be very pleased
Cheers
 
Just a quik update on my results so far...
I have had a good increase in strenght across all my lifts, and this increase has been steady and consistant throughout my first 3weeks of the cycle.
My weight has remained fairly constant, altough I certainly seem to be getting leaner, so if my weight is staying the same but my bodyfat is decreasing them Im happy with that.
In terms of side effects the only real one im feeling is a slight loss in libido. Im still getting up for sex and still having sex just dont seem as up for it as normal. Im also getting a little bit spotty, but nothing too bad, just like the bad end of what I would normally be.
In all Im happy with the way things are going and Im hoping to see my strength increase further over the next 3-5 weeks (Im considering cutting the cycle to 6weeks, so I have time for a good PCT before my seasons starts incase of testing. If the strength increases are good enough by week 6 then I will do this.)
Im still open to advice in terms of PCT for var, I definately want to run something to kickstart my natural test production but havent got it yet.

Cheers
 
Spotty refers to spots on the skin armaniak, not quite as bad as acne, but the few spots I got were worse than normal, hard do get rid of.

Due to being let down by my supplier I had to stop the cycle at just over 4weeks.

But in those weeks I saw good strength gains, gained lean mass and dropped bodyfat.

Overall I was very happy with the gains I got, and I would / and probably will do a Var only cycle again in the future.

But I will make sure I have all the gear before I start it.

Cheers
 
Nice Log, I will be starting my cycle in couple of weeks when I start strength phase. I will be going with 20mg first week to 30mg due to me being small and light weight. How is your strength now off the gear?
 
How about Clomid or Arimidex?

Catman22 said:
Just a quik update on my results so far...
I have had a good increase in strenght across all my lifts, and this increase has been steady and consistant throughout my first 3weeks of the cycle.
My weight has remained fairly constant, altough I certainly seem to be getting leaner, so if my weight is staying the same but my bodyfat is decreasing them Im happy with that.
In terms of side effects the only real one im feeling is a slight loss in libido. Im still getting up for sex and still having sex just dont seem as up for it as normal. Im also getting a little bit spotty, but nothing too bad, just like the bad end of what I would normally be.
In all Im happy with the way things are going and Im hoping to see my strength increase further over the next 3-5 weeks (Im considering cutting the cycle to 6weeks, so I have time for a good PCT before my seasons starts incase of testing. If the strength increases are good enough by week 6 then I will do this.)
Im still open to advice in terms of PCT for var, I definately want to run something to kickstart my natural test production but havent got it yet.

Cheers
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CandyHater said:
Nice Log, I will be starting my cycle in couple of weeks when I start strength phase. I will be going with 20mg first week to 30mg due to me being small and light weight. How is your strength now off the gear?
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I moved on to hypertrophy after finnishing on the var but my strength seems to have kept up with the end of my cycle.

Kept all my gains to my knowledge and would recommend this cycle to any 1st time user looking to obtain the same results as I did.
Cheers
 
when will you start your next cycle?

Catman22 said:
I moved on to hypertrophy after finnishing on the var but my strength seems to have kept up with the end of my cycle.

Kept all my gains to my knowledge and would recommend this cycle to any 1st time user looking to obtain the same results as I did.
Cheers
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hi i am 180 pounds. Absolutely natural. I have never taken any aas. I am 5ft 7inches. I look bulky with 18%body fat. I have used an eca stack last month and lost about twelve pounds. I cannot use it further to down my body fat as it freaks me out with jitters palpitation and sleeplessness. I am thinking of running an anavar cycle myself. Do you guys recommend it? My training is solid. For example bench at 180pounds deadlift at 200pounds etc. My diet sucks though. Hoping to hear from you guys. I want to learn more about aas
 
Oral only cycle threads should be locked....inject or stay away from gear.

What made you land on anavar only? Have you researched why Testostrone is the base to every cycle you run? Obviously not.

I'd stop this cycle or at least chuck in a Trt dosage of Testostrone Enanthate or Cyp at 200-250mg a week. At LEAST.
 
synthazeus said:
Oral only cycle threads should be locked....inject or stay away from gear.

What made you land on anavar only? Have you researched why Testostrone is the base to every cycle you run? Obviously not.

I'd stop this cycle or at least chuck in a Trt dosage of Testostrone Enanthate or Cyp at 200-250mg a week. At LEAST.
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Please, stop spreading this bullshit. I've been on 2 weeks of Winstrol only, and only 30mg, yet my body is getting defined more every day. Abs are nearly visible even in dark and my arms have grown as well
 
johncarer said:
Please, stop spreading this bullshit. I've been on 2 weeks of Winstrol only, and only 30mg, yet my body is getting defined more every day. Abs are nearly visible even in dark and my arms have grown as well
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Bullshit? It's quite clear you have no real idea about proper use of anabolic steroids if you run Winstrol only cycles lol. Say hello to being shut down and having no form of Testostrone in the body. You NEED at least a trt dosage of 200-250mg a week to maintain sexual function and well...to remain a man. The only bullshit that's going on is this thread and the idiots like you who go on these oral only cycles because they're either to scared to inject or simply just have no researched properly. Go ask any person with some form of knowledge and they will say the exact same thing I'm saying..
 
<--------- watch this video Marc lobliner (Pro bodybuilder and much smarter than you kids who think running oral androgens is ok) exhaling in detail why you idea is so stupid.
 
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