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French senate passes ban on full muslim veils

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Given the damage it produces on those rules which allow the life in community, ensure the dignity of the person and equality between sexes, this practice, even if it is voluntary, cannot be tolerated in any public place,
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good for them.
 
I don't know why the media continues to twist the nature of the proposed policy by giving the impression that it's the hijab only to be banned. It's merely one item of clothing as part of an overall ban on headgear that comes in to conflict with pre-established laws.
 
I would cation people from speaking hatefully toward a group of people like muslims.
oward a g

I want people to think about this. I spent 4 years in the US Army 173rd air born. I had 3 friends who were Muslim and one of them was my best friend. His name was Haroom, he was from the country of Tanzania and he was a muslim. He was one of the most
respectful people I have ever met. When I woke up from my coma in Germany there was 6 people in my room. My wife Shanna, My son Nathan, My daughter leah, My company commander , a Nurse, and Haroom. This man would die for me and I still speak to him from time to time. He fought alongside every other man out there on that hell fucking whole of a battle field.

He read the Koran To me in English many times and not once did I ever hear a hateful word come out of this mans mouth. Not once did "kill Africans" or kill anyone for that matter ever cross hos lips. This man had a good heart and he cared about everyone around him. Many of you would be lucky if you ever become half the man he was. He worked at a local homeless Shelter on his days off and he would often give to the poor people in the city. He worked long and hard hours with me for 3 years. I spent countless hours on top of god forsaken, freezing ass Italian mountain tops with this dude. Out there freezing our asses off cooking food for thousands of grunts. It sucked and often the only fun I had was shooting the shit with this man and every once in a wile getting fucked up off some Italain grappa he got the locals to smuggle in for us because he spoke Italian (and 8 other language). He was smart, he was respectful, he was kind, he was one hell of a fucking good bro, and he was a Muslin.

So the next time you want to make some bullshit comment about YAAA good for them they stuck it to the Muslims keep it to your damn self. Because you really do make your self look like a low life peace of fucking shit. when you think its fun or amusing to put down a whole race or culture because you are such a god damn ignorant bastard to most people you look like a low life. At least to me you do. THIS COMMENT IS NOT DIRECTED AT A SINGLE PERSON. IF THE SHOE FITS THEN WARE IT.
I am just speaking my mind in hopes that some people out there will stop acting like children and grow the hell up some day. Muslims are not the problem!! It is people with hate in there heart that are the problem, and if you harbor hate in your heart for any race or culture then you my friend are nothing more then part of the problem in which you think you might have a chance of solving with that hate of yours.

For anyone who speaks hateful words to all muslims just because of a few radical hate filled ones. I hope and pray that some day you are dieing and your life is slipping away with every passing second. As you are dieing there is 1 muslim there who could save you. Will you die with that hate or will you hope that he saves you?

My friend Haroom was there when I died and he was the man who brought life back into my lungs. I very rarely speak about the day because its a memory I do not wish to live over and over again in my head. He was the man who saved my life and he was there for me when I woke up again 2 weeks later.

Not only that another good friend and fellow member of this site The_alc is another great bro and I am pretty sure there is a few more great people here on this forum who are Muslims. So maybe no one is saying it or thinking it right now, but if you do ever think of it. If you do ever think of feel the need to speak hatefully towards all muslims. Stop for a second and think about these people. Stop and think about my friend and then ask if what you are about to do is fair to them?

anyway guys, Not trying to be a party crasher. I just want others to respect each other. Dig a little deeper and think about all the people out there and not just the few radical muslims who make a bad name for all the really really damn good ones out there. If not for a Muslim I may not be alive today to be typing these words. Thanks guys, I hope I did not offend anyone speaking my mind like this.

:biggrin::biggrin:
 
Nobody in this thread was bashing muslims. They were bashing an obviously archaic practice that does nothing but degrade women. Plus, a few years ago France banned ALL public displays of religion (crucifix, star of david, etc) so this is just them sticking to their word...because aside from being degrading, at the end of the day this clothing is also a religious symbol.
 
NeedToBuildMuscle.com said:
I would cation people from speaking hatefully toward a group of people like muslims.
oward a g

I want people to think about this. I spent 4 years in the US Army 173rd air born. I had 3 friends who were Muslim and one of them was my best friend. His name was Haroom, he was from the country of Tanzania and he was a muslim. He was one of the most
respectful people I have ever met. When I woke up from my coma in Germany there was 6 people in my room. My wife Shanna, My son Nathan, My daughter leah, My company commander , a Nurse, and Haroom. This man would die for me and I still speak to him from time to time. He fought alongside every other man out there on that hell fucking whole of a battle field.

He read the Koran To me in English many times and not once did I ever hear a hateful word come out of this mans mouth. Not once did "kill Africans" or kill anyone for that matter ever cross hos lips. This man had a good heart and he cared about everyone around him. Many of you would be lucky if you ever become half the man he was. He worked at a local homeless Shelter on his days off and he would often give to the poor people in the city. He worked long and hard hours with me for 3 years. I spent countless hours on top of god forsaken, freezing ass Italian mountain tops with this dude. Out there freezing our asses off cooking food for thousands of grunts. It sucked and often the only fun I had was shooting the shit with this man and every once in a wile getting fucked up off some Italain grappa he got the locals to smuggle in for us because he spoke Italian (and 8 other language). He was smart, he was respectful, he was kind, he was one hell of a fucking good bro, and he was a Muslin.

So the next time you want to make some bullshit comment about YAAA good for them they stuck it to the Muslims keep it to your damn self. Because you really do make your self look like a low life peace of fucking shit. when you think its fun or amusing to put down a whole race or culture because you are such a god damn ignorant bastard to most people you look like a low life. At least to me you do. THIS COMMENT IS NOT DIRECTED AT A SINGLE PERSON. IF THE SHOE FITS THEN WARE IT.
I am just speaking my mind in hopes that some people out there will stop acting like children and grow the hell up some day. Muslims are not the problem!! It is people with hate in there heart that are the problem, and if you harbor hate in your heart for any race or culture then you my friend are nothing more then part of the problem in which you think you might have a chance of solving with that hate of yours.

For anyone who speaks hateful words to all muslims just because of a few radical hate filled ones. I hope and pray that some day you are dieing and your life is slipping away with every passing second. As you are dieing there is 1 muslim there who could save you. Will you die with that hate or will you hope that he saves you?

My friend Haroom was there when I died and he was the man who brought life back into my lungs. I very rarely speak about the day because its a memory I do not wish to live over and over again in my head. He was the man who saved my life and he was there for me when I woke up again 2 weeks later.

Not only that another good friend and fellow member of this site The_alc is another great bro and I am pretty sure there is a few more great people here on this forum who are Muslims. So maybe no one is saying it or thinking it right now, but if you do ever think of it. If you do ever think of feel the need to speak hatefully towards all muslims. Stop for a second and think about these people. Stop and think about my friend and then ask if what you are about to do is fair to them?

anyway guys, Not trying to be a party crasher. I just want others to respect each other. Dig a little deeper and think about all the people out there and not just the few radical muslims who make a bad name for all the really really damn good ones out there. If not for a Muslim I may not be alive today to be typing these words. Thanks guys, I hope I did not offend anyone speaking my mind like this.

:biggrin::biggrin:
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has nothing to do with forcing wemmin to wear archahic clothing.
and imo, this sorta of response is the modern day version of appeasement.
anyone who dares to critize must be a muslim hater or racist.
give me a fuggin break with this pc shit already
 
75th said:
Nobody in this thread was bashing muslims. They were bashing an obviously archaic practice that does nothing but degrade women. Plus, a few years ago France banned ALL public displays of religion (crucifix, star of david, etc) so this is just them sticking to their word...because aside from being degrading, at the end of the day this clothing is also a religious symbol.
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Good stuff. But be that as it may, to the people who still believe in the practice I think it is wrong.
It me like telling me that I can not walk down the streets of America Holding a bobble and having a cross hanging from my gold chain around my neck.

I think If a woman wants to she should be allowed to. DO I think they should be forced to? of course not however believe it or not there are many who want to.

So basically what france has done has taken away its peoples right to religious freedom and people are cheering this one like a good thing? Let me say this, The day a law is passed that I can not walk down the street with a religious crucifix hanging off my neck. I will go postal and that is a promise. That is my damn right!!!!! Its my freedom and no one should be able to take that from me.
 
I understand what Need2 is getting at, i.e. respecting personal preference. However, I'd argue that women who want to cover every part of their body do so only because they've been socialized to want to be treated like chattel.

I think using the Koran, or any religious text, as an excuse to treat any class of citizen like property is obscene.
 
bino said:
has nothing to do with forcing wemmin to wear archahic clothing.
and imo, this sorta of response is the modern day version of appeasement.
anyone who dares to critize must be a muslim hater or racist.
give me a fuggin break with this pc shit already
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Criticize is one thing. I will thank you to take note that I worded everything I said so as to not point the finger at any certain person, rather speak to anyone whom feels the shoe might fit for them. So please give me a brake BINO ok.

Now since you seem to know so much. Have you spoken to every single Muslim woman on this earth? DO you know for a fact that all of them are being "forced" to wear clothing they do not wish to wear. Or are you just being ignorant and assuming that that is the case for all of them?

I know a great deal of people who hated being forced to go to sunday school, however I know just as many who happily went and continue to go to this very day. I think if you stopped "assuming" and Asked all of them or even just any that you know personally ( do you even know any?) You might find more of them want to wear this clothing then you think are being "forced to" .

Who are you? or who is anyone to speak on the behalf of a entire culture/religious group?
You are speaking as if you know and you haven't a damn clue do you?

With a mountain of respect to you of course bino :qt::qt:
 
NeedToBuildMuscle.com said:
Good stuff. But be that as it may, to the people who still believe in the practice I think it is wrong.
It me like telling me that I can not walk down the streets of America Holding a bobble and having a cross hanging from my gold chain around my neck.

I think If a woman wants to she should be allowed to. DO I think they should be forced to? of course not however believe it or not there are many who want to.

So basically what france has done has taken away its peoples right to religious freedom and people are cheering this one like a good thing? Let me say this, The day a law is passed that I can not walk down the street with a religious crucifix hanging off my neck. I will go postal and that is a promise. That is my damn right!!!!! Its my freedom and no one should be able to take that from me.
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Religous freedom blah. blah blah, that's a bunch of horse shit. If you want religious freedom go to your country where they practice your religious culture. What France is doing is instilling their countries values and beliefs back to it's people. It is bullshit to think that countries have to cater to other migrant's non-traditional practices.
 
France is in no way restricting religious freedom. The mooslim men are more than able to force their wimminz to wear their religious attire in the comfort of their own homes.

The treating of women as second class citizens is one of the hallmarks of the muslim world, but it unfortunately doesnt jive with first world countries. France is well within their right to take steps to ensure that, at least in public, women and men are treated equally.

I rarely pull this card, but if the muslim residents of France dont like it theres an entire section of the world not far from Europe that would be more than welcoming to them.


NeedToBuildMuscle.com said:
Good stuff. But be that as it may, to the people who still believe in the practice I think it is wrong.
It me like telling me that I can not walk down the streets of America Holding a bobble and having a cross hanging from my gold chain around my neck.

I think If a woman wants to she should be allowed to. DO I think they should be forced to? of course not however believe it or not there are many who want to.

So basically what france has done has taken away its peoples right to religious freedom and people are cheering this one like a good thing? Let me say this, The day a law is passed that I can not walk down the street with a religious crucifix hanging off my neck. I will go postal and that is a promise. That is my damn right!!!!! Its my freedom and no one should be able to take that from me.
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gripweight said:
Religous freedom blah. blah blah, that's a bunch of horse shit. If you want religious freedom go to your country where they practice your religious culture. What France is doing is instilling their countries values and beliefs back to it's people. It is bullshit to think that countries have to cater to other migrant's non-traditional practices.
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Ima have to agree with this, good post grip, now get back to your peep hole in the men's shower room before some fag steals your seat.
 
I have said on many occassions I have been around these people, probably a helluva lot more than most of you. They are not bad as a whole, some very good peole I know who practice Islam. I mean all of you guys know Traz, he is as damn good of a bro as it gets, nobody can deny that. To damn them all to hell is ignorant, and if their religon is based on ignorance according to the bible, then they will be judged by their hearts. the bible says God forgives fools(meaning that if one knows nothing more than what they have been raised to believe and has a good heart, they will enter into heaven) Muslim or not. But on the same token, I fucing dare you to mention the word Bible or Christian in a Muslim nation without the fucking Marines to protect you, cause if you do your ass will be beheaded. It is not wrong for a country to enforce or stand up for the laws of the religion that it was founded on, our countries tolerance for this bullshit only breads the radicalism that we now have to face in our own country. And in noway am I suggesting that every Muslim is radical, but you know wheather or not some of you people want to believe it or not this whole nation was formed on the basis of the Christian religon, it was also formed on the basis of freedom from religous persacution, had it not been for religous reasons the Indians (NO JACKANGLE) would still be here by themselves, free from all of you white fucks sickness and fagism, many views on thsi shit, but it all boils down to is a person a good person or an evil fuck that needs a good fucking killing. And its easy to sit up in here and talk about killing peeps, its harder to have to do it, cause taking lives Muslim or not is no fucking walk in the park, it takes its toll, so you lilly white fuckers and Muslims alike better chill the fuck out.
 
stfu
 
I totally get what needto is saying and 75th also made a good point. Needto's intention wasn't to make me look like a bad guy, but others who do bring hate to the room. I found this quite interesting and I do agree in a totally non-religous sense that these are not things people should wear in public.
 
I was not expecting that karma message needto, lol. That was funny.
 
Is it a ban in general? like they can't wear it anywhere? That might be stretching it....but banning them in certain places is just common sense, even muslims need to understand that. They irritated me to no end when they demanded that women not have to take them off when they go to vote....that's just unreasonable and no democratic process should have to bow to that kind of archaic cave people bullshit. People should wear what they wanna wear on their own time, but in certain instances and places....it's gotta come off. Walkin on a plane? Please beleive you're gonna take that shit off and verify your identity. There's the line I draw.
 
gripweight said:
At least France has a fucking backbone and doesn't bow down and kiss their feet.
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it's what happens to hippies when shit hit the fan - they're overrun by muslims demanding this and that - so the hippies become the same conservativse they bitch about.

Remember, this is the same country that protects pedophile filmmakers and slams the US after 9/11 - so let's give them too much credit. It's no different than Kalifornia, which prides itself on being a liberal hippie state --- yet we have the highest incarceration rate in the union.

We love putting blaques and hispaniacs behind bars.

c
 
next they need to stop the illegal gathering and blocking of paris streets for 2.5 hrs every friday for prayer sessions. i mean there are places for you to practice your beliefs called churches/mosques.
 
DannoMight said:
next they need to stop the illegal gathering and blocking of paris streets for 2.5 hrs every friday for prayer sessions. i mean there are places for you to practice your beliefs called churches/mosques.
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seriously? that happens? ok, when I'm king that'll fly about once.....next time you're gettin pepper gassed. All that is is a group of people throwing their beleifs in your face.
 
gripweight said:
Religous freedom blah. blah blah, that's a bunch of horse shit. If you want religious freedom go to your country where they practice your religious culture. What France is doing is instilling their countries values and beliefs back to it's people. It is bullshit to think that countries have to cater to other migrant's non-traditional practices.
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ya sucks to think any country would be like America and allow freedom.. Shutter to think it.
 
Thanks God For the USA with these Issues, seriously thank GOD

everyone deserves freedom till they do something wrong, not because of who they are or who they may be
 
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