Fucking California Hippies

[Stefka]

What if a country's refusal to properly fence its borders provides an attractive nuesance that is luring hundreds if not thousands of people to their deaths every year?

It's odd to me that if the a US citizen fails to properly latch the gate around their swimming pool, they'll get sued when someone sneaks-in and drowns.

The tort doctrine of "attractive nuisance" is only applicable to children, and one of the requirements is that the child wouldn't be able to appreciate the risks. Not the case here, so I'm pretty sure immigrants wont be suing the US government in a tort action (not that they could anyways, due to sovereign immunity).

I don't think the fence would work. Some people walk through 500 miles of desert to get here - I doubt some barbed wire and chain link is really going to do much. The "answer" is probably to enforce existing employment laws. But business owners aren't really a fan of that idea - so we'll probably continue to villainize the immigrants and waste taxpayer money on bad poetry and fences.

 

[mrplunkey]

The tort doctrine of "attractive nuisance" is only applicable to children, and one of the requirements is that the child wouldn't be able to appreciate the risks. Not the case here, so I'm pretty sure immigrants wont be suing the US government in a tort action (not that they could anyways, due to sovereign immunity).

I don't think the fence would work. Some people walk through 500 miles of desert to get here - I doubt some barbed wire and chain link is really going to do much. The "answer" is probably to enforce existing employment laws. But business owners aren't really a fan of that idea - so we'll probably continue to vilainize the immigrants and waste taxpayer money on bad poetry and fences.

I'm sure some of the children involved in the crossing don't appreciate the risks. And I'm not advocating some whimpy chain link and barbed wire -- I'm talking layers of concrete steel and razorwire.

You're a lawyer -- let's make some money! What if we round-up the relatives of people who've lost loved ones during border crossings? Let's claim the US is an attractive nuisance and file a class action lawsuit. We're gonna get paaaaaaaaaaaaaaid.

 

[jnevin]

Your uncle should have used the bodies as fertilizer and put the heads on stakes surrounding his property.

lemons.... lemonade

 

[Stefka]

You're a lawyer -- let's make some money! What if we round-up the relatives of people who've lost loved ones during border crossings? Let's claim the US is an attractive nuisance and file a class action lawsuit. We're gonna get paaaaaaaaaaaaaaid.

Sovereign immunity pwned

 

[mrplunkey]

Sovereign immunity pwned

This is America! You can sue anyone for anything! USA! USA! USA!

Anything less is anti-capitalist, anti-democracy and pro-abortion.

(yeah, I know about sovereign immunity)

I do think it's a little hypocritical that liberals don't support fencing our borders. People dying in the desert and human trafficing horrors alone would justify its implementation.

 

[deco]

just what I was looking for

 

[redsamurai]

I'm talking layers of concrete steel and razorwire.

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More massive govt. expenditure? The construction and upkeep of such a wall would probably cost us more than the problem it's supposed to fix.

 

[nimbus]

arrest illegals and make them build it, bwahahaha

 

[inkspot]

More massive govt. expenditure? The construction and upkeep of such a wall would probably cost us more than the problem it's supposed to fix.

If it were only as simple as a few illegals sneaking in. It's the aftermath, the crime, the social cost, the foundation & values this country was built on. I'm not opposed to any people willing to assimilate, but I'm tired of being sucked dry. With that being said, I would like to see two walls with land mines planted in between. The furthest south wall clearly marked the dangers in crossing. We can leave them water for their return trek.

Happy New Year

 

[mrplunkey]

More massive govt. expenditure? The construction and upkeep of such a wall would probably cost us more than the problem it's supposed to fix.

Estimated annual costs of illegal aliens vary wildly, from $15B/year to over $300B/year. The most credible report I've read says it costs California alone around $10.5B a year.

$10.5B/year would build and maintain a seriously nice fence.