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So What Happens if You Avoid Answering the Census?

musclemom

musclemom

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This isn't the every 10 year census, this is some other shit. American Community Survey. It's still the government.

I mean, can they really fine you $5,000? Do they bother? Or is it just like the jury duty notice, ignore it and maybe it'll go away.

Second time one of these fuckers came to my door, and they sent shit in the mail, too. Honestly, I don't answer the door unless I'm expecting people. I can't see who's at the door, without actually opening my living room door, until they walk away from the house.
 
musclemom said:
This isn't the every 10 year census, this is some other shit. American Community Survey. It's still the government.

I mean, can they really fine you $5,000? Do they bother? Or is it just like the jury duty notice, ignore it and maybe it'll go away.

Second time one of these fuckers came to my door, and they sent shit in the mail, too. Honestly, I don't answer the door unless I'm expecting people. I can't see who's at the door, without actually opening my living room door, until they walk away from the house.
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Wow I've never seen a door-to-door Census taker. They really still do that?
 
RottenWillow said:
Wow I've never seen a door-to-door Census taker. They really still do that?
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Yep.

Lucky me. This is a "special" survey, only going out to 1% of all households. Goes into what kind of insurance I have on the house, how if people living in the house have health insurance, what did I spend on heating and water for the past year. G'damned thing is a frigging novel.
 
lol@civic doodie

i got threatened with a hefty fine for not showing at jury duty once. they sent me an ominous looking thing in the mail with intimidating language on it. i told them to get fuct and had my doctor write a note stating that i am a crazy mofo (which is true.)

the gestapo never followed up.
 
cryptosporidium said:
lol@civic doodie

i got threatened with a hefty fine for not showing at jury duty once. they sent me an ominous looking thing in the mail with intimidating language on it. i told them to get fuct and had my doctor write a note stating that i am a crazy mofo (which is true.)

the gestapo never followed up.
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Do what I did and just wear an offensive metal shirt. I wasn't there for much over an hour and nobody wanted to talk to me. Suckers!
 
PuddleMonkey said:
Do what I did and just wear an offensive metal shirt. I wasn't there for much over an hour and nobody wanted to talk to me. Suckers!
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actually, you know on the form, how it has a field to write down reasons why you should be excluded from the selection process.. well i wrote MISANTHROPE in big letters with my left hand, kindergarten style. :D
 
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musclemom said:
Yep.

Lucky me. This is a "special" survey, only going out to 1% of all households. Goes into what kind of insurance I have on the house, how if people living in the house have health insurance, what did I spend on heating and water for the past year. G'damned thing is a frigging novel.
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I tried to avoid the census this year. The lady stopped by my home and left a letter. I ignored it (my mistake). She send another one. Finally she caught me at my house. She was a little old lady and sweet so eventually I caved in.

I would post what I told her but I don't want to get investigated for giving false info. It was entertaining to say the least.
 
cryptosporidium said:
actually, you know on the form, how it has a field to write down reasons why you should be excluded from the selection process.. well i wrote MISANTHROPE in big letters with my left hand, kindergarten style. :D
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I'll never have to worry about that, my chiro could write me a note. I actually am not physically capable of sitting for much more than 45 minutes at a time, my back cramps up.
 
Tell them it's against your religion.

Aren't you a kitten killing Pagan already? Seems like a worthy excuse to me.
 
XBiker said:
Tell them it's against your religion.

Aren't you a kitten killing Pagan already? Seems like a worthy excuse to me.
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Most people who identify themselves as pagan, particularly wiccans and even witches, are actually cat crazy. I happen to have six cats currently.

Besides, I don't follow a religion, it's a spiritual path.

It's just a really, really intrusive form. Makes the regular census looks like a joke. There's only two of us in the house so there will be a total of 48 questions to answer.

Here's an example of some of the questions:

16. About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home (and lot, if owned) would sell for if it were for sale? (and they want you to write in a dollar amount).

17. What are the annual real estate taxes on THIS property?

I mean, why can't they get that shit from the township?

33. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work LAST WEEK?

34. How many minutes did it usually take this person to get from home to work LAST WEEK?
 
musclemom said:
Most people who identify themselves as pagan, particularly wiccans and even witches, are actually cat crazy. I happen to have six cats currently.

Besides, I don't follow a religion, it's a spiritual path.

It's just a really, really intrusive form. Makes the regular census looks like a joke. There's only two of us in the house so there will be a total of 48 questions to answer.

Here's an example of some of the questions:

16. About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home (and lot, if owned) would sell for if it were for sale? (and they want you to write in a dollar amount).

17. What are the annual real estate taxes on THIS property?

I mean, why can't they get that shit from the township?

33. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work LAST WEEK?

34. How many minutes did it usually take this person to get from home to work LAST WEEK?
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Yikes!! Sounds like ssomeones is planning to steal your house!
 
Ezekiel said:
Yikes!! Sounds like ssomeones is planning to steal your house!
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Truthfully, I'd do a dance of joy if this dump burned to the ground (while I was on vacation). I'd do better financially if it was a total and I could collect on the insured amount than to try to sell it. I wouldn't try to rebuild. I'd pay the loan off, clear the lot and sell the empty lot. Believe me, that would put me further ahead of the game than if I sold this place outright, even if it was in showcase condition.
 
musclemom said:
Truthfully, I'd do a dance of joy if this dump burned to the ground (while I was on vacation). I'd do better financially if it was a total and I could collect on the insured amount than to try to sell it. I wouldn't try to rebuild. I'd pay the loan off, clear the lot and sell the empty lot. Believe me, that would put me further ahead of the game than if I sold this place outright, even if it was in showcase condition.
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I hear ya.... Pretty much just treading water myself.

Those questions seem kind of intrusive on that Censis. I wonder if they want to know the value of your house now in todays economy or what it really should be worth.
 
If you get stuck with this census survey, they come back every six months and ask the same questions, or at least different subsets of the same questions, for several years. It's invasive and annoying.
 
Well, I've been reading on the internet.

Remember, I mislabled this thread. The Census is next year, and all that is required is to count who lives here. This invasive piece of shit (which was generated by the Bush administration back in 2006) is the American Community Survey and I have decided to refuse to answer it. There are a lot of people deeply offended by this intrusive document. If I get buttonholed by one of these govt. jackals I'll flat out tell them that as an American citizen I feel these questions are in violation of my fourth amendment rights, but I'll be happy to fill out the bare minimum of information in next year's census.

This is utter horseshit. Property information is available from the township. Income statistics (and they want EXTREME detail on income) can come from the IRS and traffic patterns can be analyzed. I flat out refuse to tell someone what time my husband leaves the home, hour and minute, and how long he takes to drive to work and that I'm self employed from home. Shit, I have enough worries about home invasions already.
 
musclemom said:
Well, I've been reading on the internet.

Remember, I mislabled this thread. The Census is next year, and all that is required is to count who lives here. This invasive piece of shit (which was generated by the Bush administration back in 2006) is the American Community Survey and I have decided to refuse to answer it. There are a lot of people deeply offended by this intrusive document. If I get buttonholed by one of these govt. jackals I'll flat out tell them that as an American citizen I feel these questions are in violation of my fourth amendment rights, but I'll be happy to fill out the bare minimum of information in next year's census.

This is utter horseshit. Property information is available from the township. Income statistics (and they want EXTREME detail on income) can come from the IRS and traffic patterns can be analyzed. I flat out refuse to tell someone what time my husband leaves the home, hour and minute, and how long he takes to drive to work and that I'm self employed from home. Shit, I have enough worries about home invasions already.
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exactly
 
When the next survey says whites are a minority YOU will be the one to blame for the race riot that results from cockasians being misrepresented. You want that on your head?
 
Dial_tone said:
When the next survey says whites are a minority YOU will be the one to blame for the race riot that results from cockasians being misrepresented. You want that on your head?
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I'm cool with that, maybe we could qualify for Affirmative Action?
 
When I got stuck with one of those census surveys, the mailer said that when the program was over I'd receive a $50 gift certificate to Walmart, but I never got it. I could use some new socks and underwear...
 
they statistically account for margin of error and incorporate that for their final total based on those numbers.

they just scare you into thinking you have to participate so the margin of error isn't as big
 
I have skipped my censuses. I ended up having to reregister to vote with my city because I never sent mine back...Though i have never been penalized by having to pay cash
 
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