Another 30 something heart failure

[calveless wonder]

I was thinking about this after reading Guardian's RIP thread.

I also recall another member here who was older (mightymouse) who died in a similar nature out of nowhere. He was older, also in great shape, but on the juice. Little scary.

uh...mightymouse is alive dude lol.

i think it was smartstrongsexy or some shit. the dude with underdog as an avatar. i was talking about that with KB the other day

 

[binö]

I thought the same thing when I saw that article...........like wtf?? Something is definitely up. Theres some shit somewhere that they've been putting in the food or the air or water or whatever..........."SOMETHING" is fucking dudes up.

meh, i think that we are just getting older and experiencing more of life's evil calling cards
peeps have been dying of heart failure for as long as humaness have shat upon the earf
just now we can identify the cause of death, as opposed to in the past blaming it on a monster in the sky

 

[joefire_2008]

The mentzer bro's dying within weeks of each other from heart failure has got to mean something. I always thought at the doses I took that I was fine............it's still not known what caused my condition, but I simply can't take the chance. If anyone has even the slightest cardiac problems..........you have to quit on the spot.

One of the reasons I never did juice was what it does to your heart... I never wanted to take the chance especially after my father had a heart attack at the age of 36, and again at 45... Genes are a bitch, esp. when you've seen what your dad's gone thru with the predisposition.

 

[redsamurai]

meh, i think that we are just getting older and experiencing more of life's evil calling cards
peeps have been dying of heart failure for as long as humaness have shat upon the earf
just now we can identify the cause of death, as opposed to in the past blaming it on a monster in the sky

Something is bringing out our "predisposition". Even doctors at the cleveland clinic acknowledge their seeing younger and younger people with cardiac problems. My own doctor has seen marathon runners in their 20's. Nobody has any clue what's going on.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

We all got to die of something, sometime.
I'm not sayin' to take foolish risks (DNP / Meth / Crack / ect.) - but you can't be afraid to live either.

 

[calveless wonder]

if i had a known heart condition, i wouldnt be fucking with juice. sam is obviously making the right decision.

but fact is lots of people juice and there are not a ton of cardiac arrest deaths (in proportion to the amount of users). i tend to agree with galaxy.

but obviously if you have a condition steroids will kill you alot faster.

both my moms parents are 95 years old and still alive. not in the best shape, but still alive.

my dads mom lived till 90 and she smoked pretty much all her life (gave her really bad osteoperosis though) and his dad lived till about 85. also smoked, only died because he slipped and fell in the tub.

all my grandparents lived very unhealthy lifestyles. big drinkers and smokers

good genes run in the fam fortunately

 

[jerseyrugger76]

if i had a known heart condition, i wouldnt be fucking with juice. sam is obviously making the right decision.

but fact is lots of people juice and there are not a ton of cardiac arrest deaths (in proportion to the amount of users). i tend to agree with galaxy.

but obviously if you have a condition steroids will kill you alot faster.

both my moms parents are 95 years old and still alive. not in the best shape, but still alive.

my dads mom lived till 90 and she smoked pretty much all her life (gave her really bad osteoperosis though) and his dad lived till about 85. also smoked, only died because he slipped and fell in the tub.

all my grandparents lived very unhealthy lifestyles. big drinkers and smokers

good genes run in the fam fortunately

I envy your grandparents. If I knew I could live till 90 and avoid the usual consequences, I go buy a pack of Parliament Lights (in the box) and fifth of Jack right now!

Unfortunately, all of the big drinkers and big smokers in *my* family (i.e. just about everyone except my parents) all died of the usual cancers and terminal illnesses associated with such vices, so I figure I'm pretty much fucked on that front.

 

[redsamurai]

It's hard to imagine how a guy like Guardian, who OBVIOUSLY took meticulous care of himself, could have just been predetermined to kick the bucket. You know that guys diet was healthy as fuck and spot on.......no way you look like that while eating shit, I don't care how much you workout. There was some other factor that played into his death.......maybe it was genes, but that's fucked that you can take care of yourself that well and still not overcome a predisposition....

And as for roids, if your arteries are clear and your heart isn't enlarged, you pretty much can rule out the juice for having any detrimental effect to your heart right? Is there any other way that juice can affect your heart? I am only aware of cholesterol and enlargement issues.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

^^^ My cardiologist said that androgen's are known anti arrhythmic. Meaning they can knock your heart out of it's normal rhythm.

 

[redsamurai]

^^^ My cardiologist said that androgen's are known anti arrhythmic. Meaning they can knock your heart out of it's normal rhythm.

ok, check that one off too now......