Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below mine were at 80 and i am at 200mg/2w. My doc would never even consider trt even if i was at the low end of "normal" range.
Can I gain muscle AND lose fat while on test cyp?
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mine were at 80 and i am at 200mg/2w. My doc would never even consider trt even if i was at the low end of "normal" range.
auslifter90
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500? man did they give you a free test reading? theres nothing wrong with those levels, you could drastically improve your free test with natural supplements, even just using a natural AI, more free test will combat your lethargy and mood
pinning for the rest of your life with those levels is 100% a mistake.
pinning for the rest of your life with those levels is 100% a mistake.
yeah this is what i am trying to explain to him. in a year when he quits on the gym and his gains are substandard he will want to come off and reality will set in that he is stuck for life.
his doc will prescribe him clomid and nolva and his libido won't work anymore. its like a domino
thuglife247
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Hey guys... I appreciate all the advice, but I decided to try it out anyways. I took my first HCG shot today. I think I may just run it as a "cycle" for a few months, and see where it takes me.
I do get a lot of conflicting opinions on all this... A lot of people I talk to that have been on this for a few years say its a blessing. They get their blood checked regularly, are fertile, and have no problems with libido. On the other hand many of you instructed against it... It just makes me very curious as to why there is such a range in people's views on this matter.
I figure I will try it out for a few months, and see what happens. Maybe until the end of July.
Thank you all for your opinions. I value the fact that you all took time to help.
I do get a lot of conflicting opinions on all this... A lot of people I talk to that have been on this for a few years say its a blessing. They get their blood checked regularly, are fertile, and have no problems with libido. On the other hand many of you instructed against it... It just makes me very curious as to why there is such a range in people's views on this matter.
I figure I will try it out for a few months, and see what happens. Maybe until the end of July.
Thank you all for your opinions. I value the fact that you all took time to help.
needtogetaas
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Doc put me on test cyp 200mg week, hcg, and AI. First time ever using. 174/ 14%. 31 yr old/ training hard for 5-6 mos. Very clean diet.
Basically, I want to know whether I should try to bulk up as much as I can, and then slim down, or can I just gain muscle, without gaining much fat on test cyp?
I know I should stick to the heavy, compound moves, but is there any other advice you guys can give? Cardio? etc...
Im a REAL newbie, so I would appreciate any and all advice from the more experienced cats out there.
That all depends on your diet, training, and level of dedication my good friend
why are you on HRT this young?
Elite Ink Tattoo
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Hello Folks:
This is my first post. I was researching HRT cuz my endocrinologist has me on it.
A little history. I am 59 years young. I have always been a workoutaholic. I tried Dianabol and Anavar back in the early 80's, 1-cycle. Put on some nice musce mass.
Anyways, my kidneys failed in 2012. I went from 260 to 168lbs! I look like a concentration camp victim at present. My Testosterone level was checked and it is 85 ng/dl. Besides loosing body hair and being lethargic. I knew there was a problem when gynomastia appeared! Not fun. So I went to a Doctor to be tested.
My Doctor put me on Axiron. 60 mg per day. The first 30 days is free but after that it would cost me $425 a month for a 30 day supply. Needless to say I cannot afford that on my $1257 a month disability. So I have been researching Test Cyp injectable as an alternative. I have found 10ml vials (200mg per ml) for $135. If I only take 1 ml per week it would cost me 1/6 the amount of money spent compared to Axiron. The Dialysis will check my blood serum level of test every 2 weeks so that I can try to get my level up to 600-800 ng/dl. That should be good enough to help me put on muscle.
I am not worried about Gyno cuz I already have a problem. With the Test it might go down, but either way I already have a surgeon who will remove the offending appendages. My kidney failure is what threw off my hormone levels, so I am covered by my Kidney Foundation Insurance for surgery and doctors but not for meds.
I know that no drug will help a person lose fat, diet and exercise will do that..No easy way out! Fortunately, being fat does not seem to be my problem at present.
Does anyone know how much Cyp I would have to take to keep my blood serum levels of Test up high?
This is my first post. I was researching HRT cuz my endocrinologist has me on it.
A little history. I am 59 years young. I have always been a workoutaholic. I tried Dianabol and Anavar back in the early 80's, 1-cycle. Put on some nice musce mass.
Anyways, my kidneys failed in 2012. I went from 260 to 168lbs! I look like a concentration camp victim at present. My Testosterone level was checked and it is 85 ng/dl. Besides loosing body hair and being lethargic. I knew there was a problem when gynomastia appeared! Not fun. So I went to a Doctor to be tested.
My Doctor put me on Axiron. 60 mg per day. The first 30 days is free but after that it would cost me $425 a month for a 30 day supply. Needless to say I cannot afford that on my $1257 a month disability. So I have been researching Test Cyp injectable as an alternative. I have found 10ml vials (200mg per ml) for $135. If I only take 1 ml per week it would cost me 1/6 the amount of money spent compared to Axiron. The Dialysis will check my blood serum level of test every 2 weeks so that I can try to get my level up to 600-800 ng/dl. That should be good enough to help me put on muscle.
I am not worried about Gyno cuz I already have a problem. With the Test it might go down, but either way I already have a surgeon who will remove the offending appendages. My kidney failure is what threw off my hormone levels, so I am covered by my Kidney Foundation Insurance for surgery and doctors but not for meds.
I know that no drug will help a person lose fat, diet and exercise will do that..No easy way out! Fortunately, being fat does not seem to be my problem at present.
Does anyone know how much Cyp I would have to take to keep my blood serum levels of Test up high?
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