wow, you two should get a room and talk trash to each other.. Saying i bench this i deadlift without proof is childish, who fuking cares.
The topic is about to be a pro which is more important and i say DRUGS, pick a natural guy with a genetic of god who bust his ass and eats correctly, with a guy whos got bad-medicore genetic but shoots gram of test 500mg tren, 100mg anavar, and 10iu of gh a week, eats corectly and train hard, i can guarantee you the dude whos shooting up will be 40 pound heavier with less bodyfat assuming they both are 6 foot.. Also, no shit you have to train and eat right for the drugs to work, some of these comments are ridiculous.
Just look at the difference between todays pro and 70s, the drugs are way more advanced some pros even shoot up synthol to bring up lagging body part and you're telling me that requires good genetic? No doubt about it genetics are importan in term of placing 1st or 2nd at Olympia, but drugs are more important in terms of sheer mass and low bf..