that's the point though...women actually go out of their way to mention it...and it's always a completely spontaneous reaction...i'm not trying to be a dick or a wiseass, or to toot-my-own-horn...if you knew me in real life, you'd know that i'm humble and generally oblivious to female attention, so for me to recognize that there is an issue says a lot...but, eh...think what ever you want...i'm not trying to impress anyone...with the exception of sd, and maybe a couple of others, i doubt that i'll ever meet any of you in real life anyway.