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So, we have a lot of posters that say to never go over 500mg/week of test. For some that works, which is cool. For others we need more...or do we?
Every bodybuilder worth his salt knows that "free test" is the desirable state for testosterone, when it is bound to serum proteins such as SHBG it essentially becomes inert in the anabolic sense.
So, we have this SHBG which test likes to bond to.
We can effect SHBG in one of two ways to get more "free test"
1. Lower SHBG!
Studies have shown that as low as .2mg/kg of Winstrol ED reduced SHBG by 48% in only 3 days. So by having a small dose of winstrol in a cycle ~20mg ED if you 200 pounds, you can lower SHBG by almost 50%! (Note all AAS reduce SHBG to some degree, but not to the extent that winny does)
2. Introduce a substance that has a stronger affinity for SHBG.
Proviron is the boob of bodybuilding. It serves no relative purpose until another variable, such as lactation is introduced (I like my analogy, because proviron has very positive effects on libido, as does a good rack!). But its strong affinity for the serum protein SHBG makes it very beneficial.
I know, I know, running two orals together is bad right? Not necessarily, as winstrol has been proven to be less hepatotoxic than other c-17 alkylated steroids, and such a low dose (.2mg/kg of bodyweight) would likely never become an issue. Further, proviron is alkylated on the first carbon which makes it resist hepatic breakdown less avidly, but accordingly reduces toxicity.
So, you have a relatively non-toxic oral in Provirion, and a low dose Winstrol which would likely never be problematic (get your blood work done kids!).
Dosing:
As I already mentioned, Winstrol has been proven effective at .2mg/kg of bodyweight.
Proviron, on the other hand, I could not find any info about. Bro-ology to steal a phrase from a prominent mod, has shown 25-50mg ED to be sufficient for this purpose. But if anyone has scientific data I would love to incorporate it!
The SYNERGY!
So, Proviron is very androgenic and thus will lend a "harder" look, and it has the additional benefit of (in best estimations) acting as an antagonist at the aromatase enzyme. Thus less estrogenic sides from test!
Winstrol, although used at this low dose, always lends a "harder" look to the physique, thus serving a secondary purpose.
So! Next time you plan your test cycle, and want to get the most out of it, consider winstrol and proviron. You will not only experience better gains, but will have less bloat and look less like a walking water balloon!
Thanks for reading my thoughts, which were of course, not my original ideas, but rather the compilation of studies and other peoples work.
Every bodybuilder worth his salt knows that "free test" is the desirable state for testosterone, when it is bound to serum proteins such as SHBG it essentially becomes inert in the anabolic sense.
So, we have this SHBG which test likes to bond to.
We can effect SHBG in one of two ways to get more "free test"
1. Lower SHBG!
Studies have shown that as low as .2mg/kg of Winstrol ED reduced SHBG by 48% in only 3 days. So by having a small dose of winstrol in a cycle ~20mg ED if you 200 pounds, you can lower SHBG by almost 50%! (Note all AAS reduce SHBG to some degree, but not to the extent that winny does)
2. Introduce a substance that has a stronger affinity for SHBG.
Proviron is the boob of bodybuilding. It serves no relative purpose until another variable, such as lactation is introduced (I like my analogy, because proviron has very positive effects on libido, as does a good rack!). But its strong affinity for the serum protein SHBG makes it very beneficial.
I know, I know, running two orals together is bad right? Not necessarily, as winstrol has been proven to be less hepatotoxic than other c-17 alkylated steroids, and such a low dose (.2mg/kg of bodyweight) would likely never become an issue. Further, proviron is alkylated on the first carbon which makes it resist hepatic breakdown less avidly, but accordingly reduces toxicity.
So, you have a relatively non-toxic oral in Provirion, and a low dose Winstrol which would likely never be problematic (get your blood work done kids!).
Dosing:
As I already mentioned, Winstrol has been proven effective at .2mg/kg of bodyweight.
Proviron, on the other hand, I could not find any info about. Bro-ology to steal a phrase from a prominent mod, has shown 25-50mg ED to be sufficient for this purpose. But if anyone has scientific data I would love to incorporate it!
The SYNERGY!
So, Proviron is very androgenic and thus will lend a "harder" look, and it has the additional benefit of (in best estimations) acting as an antagonist at the aromatase enzyme. Thus less estrogenic sides from test!
Winstrol, although used at this low dose, always lends a "harder" look to the physique, thus serving a secondary purpose.
So! Next time you plan your test cycle, and want to get the most out of it, consider winstrol and proviron. You will not only experience better gains, but will have less bloat and look less like a walking water balloon!
Thanks for reading my thoughts, which were of course, not my original ideas, but rather the compilation of studies and other peoples work.
