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young_squatters Single Factor 5x5 Journal

Cardio: Eliptical Machine
Time: 30 Minutes
Distance: 3.5 miles
Calories burned: 430

Had a good sweat going today, felt really good after I was done.
My pre cardio meal was 1 scoop of whey and 1 ser strawberries. Gave me the energy I needed to complete my cardio.
 
Hey guys I just got off the phone with Mark Ripptoe and asked him what a good routine would be and he told me this

Workout 1
Squat 3x5
Bench Press 3x5
Deadlift/ Power clean (Alternate every workout)
This has you deadlifting or cleaning every 5th workout
For the deadlift he said to pyrmaid to a top set of 5, and for power clean to do 5x3.

Workout 2
Squat 3x5
Military press 3x5
Hyperextensions 3x5
Chins 3x5

He told me to go heavy every workout, He said that I should try to increase my squat by 10lbs every workout and so should deadlift, also he said my other lifts should increase 1-3 lbs every workout. And for me not to settle a workout without increasing the weight every workout.

Also he told me pretty much to eat like it was going out of style, He told me that I had to drink 1 gallon of WHOLE MILK a day. He said I should gain like 3 lbs a week and this is why my lifts should fly up. He told me not to do any isolation arm work at all. Just do what he said and then get the hell out of the gym.
Then he said when my squat and other lifts start to plateu that I should drop the weight 20lbs then work my way back on and then start making 5 lb jumps on squats. He said this should work for about 1 Year.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK I SHOULD DO? I WANT TO TAKE HIS ADVICE BUT EATING AS MUCH AS HE WANTS ME TO WONT I JUST GET FAT?
 
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Guinness5.0 said:
I'd def. take his advice. How the hell do you know him?

Well I just started emailing him this week, and he emailed me back telling me that he rather talk to me on the phone, so he gave me his telephone number and I called him and he gave me that routine, He told me I should be able to put 10lbs on my squat every workout for a while if I eat like he said, He said if I dont eat like he said then I wont make that good of progress.
After he gave me the program and told me everything to do he told me to call him back as much as I wanted and to keep him informed, and said when this program stops working that he will customize it again to make it work again. He said he could put 30 lbs on me fast.

He is a very nice guy, so I gave him my number so now he can call me and I can call him.
 
young_squatter said:
Well I just started emailing him this week, and he emailed me back telling me that he rather talk to me on the phone, so he gave me his telephone number and I called him and he gave me that routine, He told me I should be able to put 10lbs on my squat every workout for a while if I eat like he said, He said if I dont eat like he said then I wont make that good of progress.
After he gave me the program and told me everything to do he told me to call him back as much as I wanted and to keep him informed, and said when this program stops working that he will customize it again to make it work again. He said he could put 30 lbs on me fast.

He is a very nice guy, so I gave him my number so now he can call me and I can call him.
Well I'd take his advice for sure.

If you talk to him again tell him about Elite. Tell him there's lots of guys here that bought his book and would love his input.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
Well I'd take his advice for sure.

If you talk to him again tell him about Elite. Tell him there's lots of guys here that bought his book and would love his input.

Ill do that.
I plan on talking to him again next week.

The diet he recommends is kinda crazy, I think it will put a lot of fat on me, but he said that I have to eat like that or I wont see progress on the routine.
 
First, it's awesome that you're getting personal help from Rippetoe. Like guinness said, mention Elite next time you email/call him (and feel free to pass along the appreciation of everybody who's bought Starting Strength).

IMO, you should definitely try the routine he gave you. Its provenance pretty much guarantees that it'll be effective, and it'd be really interesting to compare the results to those others have gotten Bill Starr's single-factor.

Regarding the diet advice, the relevant thing to keep in mind is that he's a strength coach, not a bodybuilder. That statement isn't intended to imply any value judgment; obviously, there's a ton of overlap in the types of methods that are effective (of which many in the latter group are almost wholly ignorant), but, equally obviously, there's a different set of emphases. Bodybuilding has, in essence, the aim of maximizing muscle mass and minimizing bodyfat. For strength training, it's gaining as much functional strength as possible for athletics. The combination of diet and training that guys like Rip advocate will maximize this variable; conditioning drills and practice before and during the sports season then naturally takes care of a lot of the fat gained. You're quite right that you'll gain more fat with the diet he gave you than with a mildly hypercaloric clean diet. Ultimately, it's just a personal decision based on your short- and long-term strength and aesthetic goals.
 
Cynical Simian said:
First, it's awesome that you're getting personal help from Rippetoe. Like guinness said, mention Elite next time you email/call him (and feel free to pass along the appreciation of everybody who's bought Starting Strength).

IMO, you should definitely try the routine he gave you. Its provenance pretty much guarantees that it'll be effective, and it'd be really interesting to compare the results to those others have gotten Bill Starr's single-factor.

Regarding the diet advice, the relevant thing to keep in mind is that he's a strength coach, not a bodybuilder. That statement isn't intended to imply any value judgment; obviously, there's a ton of overlap in the types of methods that are effective (of which many in the latter group are almost wholly ignorant), but, equally obviously, there's a different set of emphases. Bodybuilding has, in essence, the aim of maximizing muscle mass and minimizing bodyfat. For strength training, it's gaining as much functional strength as possible for athletics. The combination of diet and training that guys like Rip advocate will maximize this variable; conditioning drills and practice before and during the sports season then naturally takes care of a lot of the fat gained. You're quite right that you'll gain more fat with the diet he gave you than with a mildly hypercaloric clean diet. Ultimately, it's just a personal decision based on your short- and long-term strength and aesthetic goals.

Thanks great advice, Im going to start his routine next week or the week after, Im waiting to recieve his book. I plan on talking to him one more time about the diet before I start his routine he gave me.
 
Yeah, ask him about the diet, 'cause a gallon of whole milk is a lot of saturated fat, among other things. If you're also getting your red meats, I would be skeptical of that just a bit.

Still, I'm sure what he recommends has worked for many in the past, so just ask him and see what he says in terms of how much to eat, how often, and what to make your meals out of.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Yeah, ask him about the diet, 'cause a gallon of whole milk is a lot of saturated fat, among other things. If you're also getting your red meats, I would be skeptical of that just a bit.

Still, I'm sure what he recommends has worked for many in the past, so just ask him and see what he says in terms of how much to eat, how often, and what to make your meals out of.

Alright ill do that next time.
 
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