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WTF is going on with my Heart??

detroitbodybuildertigers said:
You've got bad HDL and LDL, haven't been poppin' yo Nicotinic Acid and Policonosol have you

I take my EFA's also to keep my HDL up......but I like the safeguard of Zocor to keep total cholesterol down.



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DIVISION said:
This thread created more questions than it answered.

Bottom Line: Go see your Doc, this forum is the last place you should rely on for advice when it comes to your heart.




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This is completely correct. Think of the cost/benefit analysis. Keep in mind all POTENTIAL costs and benefits. Then multiply them by the probabilities to make the best choice.

Smart Choices, written by Harvard Business School graduates, is a great book when it comes to this kind of thing. M'kay...
 
Well in my case I have PVC for sure. Like 90% of posters in this thread. Now the reason why this thread has created more questions than asnwers, is because we don't have a fuckin clue what happens when we combine AAS and PVC's. I posted the question for docs in the medical forum.
 
DIVISION said:
I take my EFA's also to keep my HDL up......but I like the safeguard of Zocor to keep total cholesterol down.



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I have met 3 guys at work that have been on Lipator (spelling may be wrong) and ALL of them have had muscle problems after taking that med like muscle tears and weaking ect. Is Zocor the same type of med, how does it work?

Take it these guys haven't been anywhere close to a gym in years except for driving by one.
 
yes, zocor is a statin just like lipitor. the inhibit an enzyme in cholesterol synthesis (HMG CoA reductase). Rare cases of rhabdomyolysis with acute kidney failure secondary to myoglobinuria have been reported with Lipitor and with other drugs in this class. Uncomplicated muscle aches has been reported in Lipitor -treated patients. Myopathy, defined as muscle aches or muscle weakness in conjunction with increases in creatine phosphokinase (CPK) values >10 times ULN, should be considered in any patient with diffuse myalgias, muscle tenderness or weakness, and/or marked elevation of CPK. Patients should be advised to report promptly unexplained muscle pain, tenderness or weakness, particularly if accompanied by malaise or fever. Lipitor therapy should be discontinued if markedly elevated CPK levels occur or myopathy is diagnosed or suspected. The risk of myopathy during treatment with Lipitor is increased with concurrent administration of cyclosporine, fibric acid derivatives, erythromycin, niacin, or azole antifungals and possibly anabolic steroids. Physicians considering combined therapy with Lipitor and fibric acid derivatives, erythromycin, immunosuppressive drugs, azole antifungals, or lipid-lowering doses of niacin should carefully weigh the potential benefits and risks and should carefully monitor patients for any signs or symptoms of muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness, particularly during the initial months of therapy and during any periods of upward dosage titration of either drug. Lipitor therapy should be temporarily withheld or discontinued in any patient with an acute, serious condition suggestive of a myopathy or having a risk factor predisposing to the development of renal failure secondary to rhabdomyolysis (e.g., severe acute infection, hypotension, major surgery, trauma, severe metabolic, endocrine and electrolyte disorders, and uncontrolled seizures).
 
crfpilot14 said:
yes, zocor is a statin just like lipitor. the inhibit an enzyme in cholesterol synthesis (HMG CoA reductase). Rare cases of rhabdomyolysis with acute kidney failure secondary to myoglobinuria have been reported with Lipitor and with other drugs in this class. Uncomplicated muscle aches has been reported in Lipitor -treated patients. Myopathy, defined as muscle aches or muscle weakness in conjunction with increases in creatine phosphokinase (CPK) values >10 times ULN, should be considered in any patient with diffuse myalgias, muscle tenderness or weakness, and/or marked elevation of CPK. Patients should be advised to report promptly unexplained muscle pain, tenderness or weakness, particularly if accompanied by malaise or fever. Lipitor therapy should be discontinued if markedly elevated CPK levels occur or myopathy is diagnosed or suspected. The risk of myopathy during treatment with Lipitor is increased with concurrent administration of cyclosporine, fibric acid derivatives, erythromycin, niacin, or azole antifungals and possibly anabolic steroids. Physicians considering combined therapy with Lipitor and fibric acid derivatives, erythromycin, immunosuppressive drugs, azole antifungals, or lipid-lowering doses of niacin should carefully weigh the potential benefits and risks and should carefully monitor patients for any signs or symptoms of muscle pain, tenderness, or weakness, particularly during the initial months of therapy and during any periods of upward dosage titration of either drug. Lipitor therapy should be temporarily withheld or discontinued in any patient with an acute, serious condition suggestive of a myopathy or having a risk factor predisposing to the development of renal failure secondary to rhabdomyolysis (e.g., severe acute infection, hypotension, major surgery, trauma, severe metabolic, endocrine and electrolyte disorders, and uncontrolled seizures).

Sounds like a horrible drug to me, I think ill just stick with my garlic pills and a good diet and keep taking my EFA's. My HDL is always good anyway and thats probably because i do alot of things like use olive oil for everything its the only oil thats allowed in my home.
 
Watson said:
Sorry I didn't read all the reply's before I posted. crfpilot14 hit it on the head. PVC not PCP. Anyway, I got it too bro if it makes you feel any better.

PVC stands for Preventricular Contraction. Your left ventricle in particular contracts before it should, and so when it does contract it does not pump out the normal amount of blood it should to your body. A much smaller amount is the result.
 
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