If you are running anything you should add test in some form and to stay dry either use suspension or prop. If you really want to cut hard core than run a test prop, masteron and tren ace with some winney. Honestly I have run clen before even though I knew all the risks but wanted to loose fat. I would never run it again. It enlarges your heart do to collegen and it also stiffens the walls of the heart and winney will increase collegen production as well so the two are not a good mix.