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Lacedamion

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the Sust 250? I was reading the other thread, and there were lots of haters. I hit this up with D-bol on my first cycle and gained over 30lbs and kept 23 of them...with no sides.
 
Lacedamion said:
the Sust 250? I was reading the other thread, and there were lots of haters. I hit this up with D-bol on my first cycle and gained over 30lbs and kept 23 of them...with no sides.
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the game has changed bro.

back when you were around sust250 and tren was hot, now its all about loading up huge on EQ and straight test.
 
i've never used it so can't hate on it but prolly won't ever use it.. i like the test mixtures atm
 
Lacedamion said:
the Sustanon 250? I was reading the other thread, and there were lots of haters. I hit this up with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - on my first cycle and gained over 30lbs and kept 23 of them...with no sides.
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All the sheep are easily influenced by trends and heresay...

I think 99% of the juicers over there swear they have gyno...



:cow:
 
Lacedamion said:
I haven't hit up a cycle in a grip man. You been hittin it up lately?
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lol @ lestat looking somewhat close to being on cycle
 
Lacedamion said:
I haven't hit up a cycle in a grip man. You been hittin it up lately?
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nah, I'm in beach volleyball mode man. I run a lot too. gym 3 days a week mostly to maintain now. I get comments on my arms and chest from women and that's enough for me now. I can always tighten up the abs if I'm feeling like i'm not getting enough attention.
 
fuck my nipples are getting sensitive.. i think i have gyno...
 
lestat i ONLY lift chest and bis, what a coincidence!!
 
Lacedamion said:
Dude, I met him like 5 or 6 years ago in SoCal. Don't know what's changed since then man.
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I'm actually bigger than when you met me. Not saying I am big, just bigger. Lower bf% too.
 
and to answer you Buck... there is just a lot of hate here in general, as you can see in this thread. This place used to be somewhere you came for encouragement and support, but now its chock full of miserable people that love to try to keep a brotha down!
 
Lestat said:
and to answer you Buck... there is just a lot of hate here in general, as you can see in this thread. This place used to be somewhere you came for encouragement and support, but now its chock full of miserable people that love to try to keep a brotha down!
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yo i superset the pec dec machine bor

sick definition in my chest now, especially now that the cell tech is kickin' in
 
Lestat said:
and to answer you Buck... there is just a lot of hate here in general, as you can see in this thread. This place used to be somewhere you came for encouragement and support, but now its chock full of miserable people that love to try to keep a brotha down!
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I think it's just the [steroid] scene naturally growing and expanding it's boundarys... and a lot of the new kids/guys aren't encouraged to get a knowledgable foundation before shooting up illegal drugs, as was moreso the case years ago.



:cow:
 
swole said:
yo i superset the pec dec machine bor

sick definition in my chest now, especially now that the cell tech is kickin' in
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I don't even know what a pec dec machine is...

i know of cell tech, but only because its ridiculed so much here
 
samoth said:
I think it's just the [steroid] scene naturally growing and expanding it's boundarys... and a lot of the new kids/guys aren't encouraged to get a knowledgable foundation before shooting up illegal drugs, as was moreso the case years ago.



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I researched for a few years before I started. If I decide to hit another cycle, I guarantee I will research again for a long time before I inject anything.
 
Lacedamion said:
I researched for a few years before I started. If I decide to hit another cycle, I guarantee I will research again for a long time before I inject anything.
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Ditto. I even sat on my first cycle for a year because I felt I didn't know enough at the time.

What scares me nowadays is the proliferation of bathtub gear. The number of threads mentioning cysts or infections is rather disheartening.



:cow:
 
jackangel said:
maybe they want to stick with a simple, short ester compound. or something.
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test proplolomfao!?!?
 
pec dec.. aka butterfly machine


swole what u superset those niggas with?
 
i think everyone's idea of a pefect cycle is different. I think if I was giving a total newbie advice so he didn't go out and do something REALLY stupid I'd say run this.
8-10 weeks

300mg test enanth or cyp (just because its fewer injects, ideally I think test prop would be a better way to go)
200mg deca

kick it off with 25mg of dbol for the first 3 weeks. polish it off with some winny (inject) or anavar if you had extra cash for the last 4 weeks.

Do your own homework on the anti-e's, post cycle, and any other ancillaries but I'd say you need an anti-e, you need nolva on hand, you need a solid post cycle setup, this was traditionally where newbies fucked themselves up the most.

I think that'd cycle give a newbie some exposed to a couple of the most important bodybuilding drugs, let them experience how they affect them at moderate levels, and would definitely swole you up huge with a low level of risk.

I understand someone wanting to steer clear of deca for the bad rap its gotten by some, but deca's sides are manageble and not experienced to the same degree by everyone (same goes for pretty much all drugs).

The sust debate is funny. Its trust, simpler is generally better, especially when effecting your hormone levels, but sust and all its different esters was designed that way for a reason. You get short and long lasting esters. It works very well for a lot of people.

But I believe test is test, so go with whatever is most convenient for you. sust250 was readily available in pharm grade from europe so its popularity soared.
 
Lacedamion said:
I actually use the pec deck sometime at the very end of a workout.....LOL
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is that the same as the fly machine?
 
I hate sust.......I think the long esters make me sick. When I did 750/wk of sust two years ago.....it was the worst cycle of my life. All I wanted to do was stay home and jerk off........no initiative to go to the gym whatsoever. I've never felt that lazy in my life. As soon as I threw some dbol into it, I was fine. Tprop alone is a different story........love it.
 
I always find it funny how the C&C guys always seem way more knowledgable than most of the guys in the anabolic forum, lol.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
I always find it funny how the C&C guys always seem way more knowledgable than most of the guys in the anabolic forum, lol.



:cow:
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lots of people in C&C first came here looking for how to get swelled up
 
Bro,
I want to take 1,000,000 mgs of Androl injected ED w/ Heroin for 12 weeks on 1 week off. Is this a good cycle bro? Thanks bro. Seriously thanks for all the good bros....LOL

*Half the guys probably don't even workout.....*
 
Test is test. You get more bang for your buck with long acting esters.
I've used Sustanon, Omnadren, testosterone enathate, testosterone cypionate, and got great results from all.
My favorite is Jelfa Omna because it's cheapest, and it's human grade.
 
Lestat said:
lots of people in C&C first came here looking for how to get swelled up
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And some of us who have been here a while and used to frequent the anabolic board more, found it a place then where interesting and intelligent discussions took place daily. Seemed more informed people actually contributed without it ending up either too nasty or just plain stupid. Nowadays it seems to be more of the latter.

C&C is really more just for shits and giggles. Like hanging out with some friends casually after work shootin the shit, carrying on and laughing.
 
Sust 250 injections hurt so bad, felt like I got fuckin shot. Pain would last sometimes for 5-6 days. Once took a shot in the thigh, hurt so bad I couldn't walk properly for a week.I much prefer straight test, no pain but still good gains:)
 
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I liked sus250. That was my first cycle with dbol, I had pretty good gains somewhere around 25lbs, and since it was my first cycle I didnt go pass 500mgs/wk with the sus
 
Lestat said:
the game has changed bro.

back when you were around sust250 and trenbolone was hot, now its all about loading up huge on Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and straight test.
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or sust and eq :evil:
 
The very first cycle I did was Sustanon 500/week/12 weeks. I had d-bol, in the first few weeks, but it gave me mad zits.
 
most people on aas are saying susts is just better at higher doses were you can do eod injects to make better use of the short esters.thats all.
 
Phaded said:
what do you guys think of a testosterone propionate/anavar/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - cycle
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I'd do Prop/500 Deca/400 for 12-14 weeks, Var for the last 4 weeks.

You'd probably up those dosages though...I ain't as big as you.
 
Phaded said:
what do you guys think of a testosterone
propionate/anavar/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - cycle
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anavAAARRRRGGGG!!!!11roar

just stack that shit with cell tech, instone's forza-t and you'll look like sylvester cutler in no time.

if you need cell tech sources email me securely.
 
jack_schitt said:
I'd do testosterone propionate/500 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /400 for 12-14 weeks, Anavar - oxandrolone - for the last 4 weeks.

You'd probably up those dosages though...I ain't as big as you.
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i was actually tinking those exact numbers for a short cycle though prob. 6 weeks or so.. that got fast acting deca i was gonna try to start out with..



swole said:
anavAAARRRRGGGG!!!!11roar

just stack that shit with cell tech, instone's forza-t and you'll look like sylvester cutler in no time.

if you need cell tech sources email me securely.
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sylvester cutler lmao..

alright ill hit up your email for the cell tech.. keep this shit dl though i wanna resell this shit and make a grip..
 
Phaded said:
i was actually tinking those exact numbers for a short cycle though prob. 6 weeks or so.. that got fast acting Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - i was gonna try to start out with..





sylvester cutler lmao..

alright ill hit up your email for the cell tech.. keep this shit dl though i wanna resell this shit and make a grip..
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I was thinking of that stack for this fall. Either that or whip something up that involves Tren. I think I'm gonna stick with the basics, although I'm gonna run Test E instead of Prop.
 
needtogetaas said:
well gouls are ether cut or bulk....for bulk test/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /Dianabol - methandrostenolone - is far better...

for cut why would you use Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - . among other reasons.
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goal doesn't have to be cut or bulk it could be lbm.. or strength.. or 1000 other things..

you can also bulk or cut with the cycle i just listed..
 
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