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WHOA! Be Careful With HCG!!!

Nelson Montana

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Just got back my latest blood test results.

I did things a little differently this time. I took it after doing my semi-annual course of HCG. It was 6 days after my last shot.

This was a suprise.

Although my balls were nice and full, my T was only 315! That aint great. It's about where it would be if I went off entirely. This puts a big bite in the ass about HCG's ablity to get endogenous T going. And what was more surprising is that my estrogen was 65! That's fucking HIGH bros!

Now last time I was tested my T was high/normal and when I used Chyrsin my e went down from slightly elevated to normal. Then I tried 6OXO and the results were the same. Were they still low from the use of Chrysin? Who knows? At any rate, I assumed 6OXO works as well. But I used a double dose of 6OXO during the course of HCG and obviously it didn't help much.

The problem here is, there are too many factors at play. Was the 6OXO just not effective? Would my e have been higher if I didn't use it. What would my e have been with the use of chrysin? I should have at least used Proviron but I didn't.

One thing this shows is that HCG raises e FAR HIGHER than exogenous testosterone. (At least in HRT dosages).

This had made me re-think the benefit of HCG. I was already of the belief that it was mostly cosmetic and this confirmed that notion further. But the surge in e was a bit of a shocker. I was lean while on it! (A sign of low e). Just goes to show you. There's no much that's unknown.

I'm going to do another blood test soon. But Now I'm spooked to use the 6OXO. If my T is around 900 (normal while on HRT) and my e is around 30 (normal with the daily use of chrysin) I'm going to leave well enough alone for a while.

Moral of the story: HCG may not be the wonder drug it's preported to be. The surge in T and e may give a nice boost in libido, and having big balls is a plus, but the side effects may not be worth it.
 
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What was 65?

Oh must have been estrogen. Great, maybe that's why I want to cry all day. I've been recovering on 20mg nolva ED and 1000iu HCG 3x a week.
 
Care to fill us in on EXACTLY how your "course" of HCG was run?
 
Zyglamail said:
Care to fill us in on EXACTLY how your "course" of HCG was run?


I'm very careful with HCG. To avoid excessive aromatization I take smaller shots -- this time doing 500IU's twice a day for 3 days, which brought my balls back and had me hornier than hell. After another 2 days I did the same dosage for 2 more days (total of 5000 IU's) but I felt it was overkill. Since the leydig cells get sensitized to HCG quickly I didn't want to push it. Besides, like I said...it "did the job."

I'm glad I didn't do more.

Anyway, I wait until I no longer have acceptable morning wood and then start the HRT again. The effects of HCG seem to last for 2-3 weeks before I need to go on. I hate to think about what my levels were the last week.

I beleve the avena and maca helped with libido and erectile function, which were actually pretty good. This is another thing. I also used xanthparmilia the last couple of days and that'll give a hardon to a dead man. That's all a good sign. But I'll never trust 6OXO again.
 
Zyglamail said:
Care to fill us in on EXACTLY how your "course" of HCG was run?

I think he ran it between the entree and dessert! Wa Wah Wah Waaaaa!!
 
I believe this to be true also, I ran 2 cycles that were almost identical in dosage and time on, except the 2nd time around recovering with the help of HCG at 500 iu's daily for 14 days. With HCG, I felt a noticeable "crash" after stopping the adminstration, and even now the recovery seems to take longer and my nips get puffy even with 15 mg of Nolva ( I already had puberty gyno so I just mean that the fullness come back with high e levels).

Next time I am letting my balls regenerate on their own, hcg seems to take you 1 step forward, then 2 steps back.
 
what about HCG with nolva, and proviron, proviron being used to total of six weeks post cycle, and clomid for first three of that? its only been a week or so, but so far so good, i feel good, look good, and have good wood;)
 
I think it's been covered alot on here that HCG shouldn't just be used without discretion... thanks for the imput, it always does help. ;)

C-ditty
 
I'm surprised this didn't get more of a response. I think this is pretty big news.

Maybe if I didn't get a blood test and just said HCG sucks it would have gotten 3000 views.
 
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