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Spartacus
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take a look at sub-saharan africa and show me evidence of genetic superiority
they act like savages
they act like savages
Hmm, interesting study but I don't think it's late breaking news or anything. Oh well, I'm sure pretty soon they will move this to the new blacks only forum, loljaybois said:
Nothing new. lol! Whiteboys are finally starting to catch up a little. As ugly as slavery was, there have been some interesting things that have came from it. Being property, slaves were bred, bought and traded. The people who chose who bred to who would choose the best with the best. Hundreds of years later we get to enjoy some of the most amazing athletes in the world.
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i'm not talking about african-americansjnevin said:
and yes the black race in america is becoming a blend
which i think is a good development for the country's future
watch an NBA game and you'll see the expression
"blended" blacks make up the majority now
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heatherrae
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Good God.
UGH
UGH
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Spartacus
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then again one could argue that europe and 'europeans' have been acting like savages until recently
one war after another up in those parts
one war after another up in those parts
calveless wonder
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wow!!!!!!!!!!! what an amazing conclusion
next they might tell us something ridiculous like black people are better at sports!!!!!!!!!!
next they might tell us something ridiculous like black people are better at sports!!!!!!!!!!
needtogetaas
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Who cares. We still got bigger dicks.
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borris
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studies have shown blacks averaging higher levels of testosterone along time ago
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so what they're really saying is that blended african-americans are genetically superiorjnevin said:
which I can believe (derek jeters and tiger woods etc.)
combine the athleticism of the black race with the intellectual superiority of the white race
and presto you have a superman
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Spartacus
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there's some black men that can never lift a weight and they have the physique of a bodybuilderborris said:
needtogetaas
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Throw in a little asian so the hair is on point.Spartacus said:
Powerbuilder333
Timeout? No, timeouts are for Plats
Depends on the sport.calveless wonder said:
The best World Strongest Man competetors are all white.
90% of the top Powerlifters are white.
Mr. Olympia is white.
Most top MMA fighters are white.
Track and field - forgetabout it - all black, with diskus, and shot put being rare exceptions.
Diving, and swimming - 95% white.
Boxing upper weight classes are mostly black champs, with the East block whites closing the ranks. Lighter white classes are influenced by blacks, latinos, and asians.
NHL Hockey = white.
NBA Basketball = black.
NFL Footabll = 1/2 black, and 1/2 white.
Major League Baseball = 1/3 latino, 1/3 black, 1/3 white. Plus a few asians.
Obviously all figures a loose estimates. But no race dominates all sports!
needtogetaas
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What about tennis and rugby?Powerbuilder333 said:
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Phaded
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good.. mentally stronger could help..
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there's very little I'm jealous of in this worldjnevin said:
but that I am
wouldn't you love to have the bodybuilder body w/o all the effort,time and expense?
and they eat whatever they want and keep a 32" waist
one of my best friends/roommate was like that
he did some lifting but not near as much as I
I saw him for the first time in 2 years and he had lost some size because he hadn't been lifting ( a baby boy-black combined with romanian)
but damn he still looked good
at age 45 too
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BLAZAY
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nfl has got to have more then 1/2 blacks and less then 1/2 whites...needtogetaas said:
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I was surprised to learn last season that blacks are down to 10-15% of major league baseball
as far as hockey's concerned
blacks would do well in that sport if they had the access to rinks and the other relatively expensive gear
basketball all you need is a ball,a net on a post and a patch of concrete
as far as hockey's concerned
blacks would do well in that sport if they had the access to rinks and the other relatively expensive gear
basketball all you need is a ball,a net on a post and a patch of concrete
stosstruppe
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needtogetaas said:
Southern hemisphere, Pacific islanders (whatever group they are?!) and whites.
shaddup. I approve of 32'' waists on ppl.Jon79 said:
Jon79 said:
lol@you blacking me out the only hour I'm not logged into EF during the day. Smooth.
Razorguns
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Spartacus said:
baseball is unique.
it is very racial, and players are hired based upon their desire to win over the deomgraphics in that region.
Lotsa hispanics fans are now coming to games, hence the desire to stock more hispanic players.
The NBA tried that and it failed. They brought over a chinese player and thought they 'might' get new asian fans! Didn't work. Asians didn't care. No more asian players. Hispanics are out, cuz there's few 6'8" hispanic basketbal l players out there with skill.
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NFL is 70% blackBLAZAY said:
the all black NY Giant defensive line manhandled the all white patriot oline
bad
redsamurai
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I"m over the whole "genetic" argument. When it comes to physicality........white people in this country are "generally" soft. They're raised soft, so they concentrate their growing years on developing their intellect whereas the "average" black kid is running the beating gauntlets on his way home from school. The Spartans knew this.........that's why when their children got to be a couple years old, they tossed em in the wilderness and said "sink or swim". And the spartans were white by the way......yet in terms of battlefield physicality, they may be the most impressive warriors in the history of man. Those guys could run a 20k with full armor, approx 50-60 pounds, and THEN fight an all out battle. That's absurd..........no one could do that today.........no athlete in the world could run that far in armor and than be a vicious combat savage. And unless the world fundamentally changes.......we'll simply never see that again. There are simply no people in the world undergoing the kind of training that the Spartans and other Greeks partook in from childhood. We can take GH and AAS till we're all dead from coronary heart failure..........we'll never equal those guys.
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hard to substantiate those spartan claims
I don't see running 20 kilometers in a 50lb suit
I have an old knight armor set-up
thing is small
people were quite smaller back then than they are now
we're getting taller each century
and of course with industrialization the food supply has been enhanced in the past 100 years
so the nutrition is far better than back then
buddy of mine commented when he was examining the armor
"back then they were lucky to catch a chciken to eat"
I don't see running 20 kilometers in a 50lb suit
I have an old knight armor set-up
thing is small
people were quite smaller back then than they are now
we're getting taller each century
and of course with industrialization the food supply has been enhanced in the past 100 years
so the nutrition is far better than back then
buddy of mine commented when he was examining the armor
"back then they were lucky to catch a chciken to eat"
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Technology makes all this a non issue.
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/03_exo.shtml
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/03_exo.shtml
needtogetaas
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A beer behind the shield and a 30 rack in the helmet?Spartacus said:
needtogetarmy
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jaybois said:
A sample of 20 whites and 15 blacks is not robust. These fools need to take a class in statistics. Jesus what has this country come to. Nothing but morons.
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noticed that myselfArmy Vet said:
Powerbuilder333
Timeout? No, timeouts are for Plats
Powerbuilder333 said:
Like I said, my figures are obviously loose estimates.
Here's someone elses stats circa 1997:
http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst;jsessionid=H1YVyTYmZY1CC3VHrTQYQfdPCXpJyG8VgG1cxJyXLt8hDxtcqTZB!-1963012579?docId=5002259241 <copy and paste] Sorry.
I over estimated black NBA players, and baseball players. And under estimated black NFL players.
My MAIN point reamins: No one race dominates all sports.
nimbus
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Razorguns said:asians are smart
blacks are athletic
whites are attractive
hispanics are family-oriented
there you go. racialstereotypes.com
but they're kinda true, i guess. but no one should live their life to support a stereotype. though i don't meet too many stupid asians.
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asians are more studious, not smarter.
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redsamurai said:
They weren't massive guys. they were taken out of their homes at age 8 to start training. They had to learn how to forage, steal wothout getting caught, and the like cause they weren't given enough food to live off of on purpose, so many died that way. Many died in training. So what you had left was a guy who had already seen years of hardship, battle like enviorenments, and a lot of tricks by the time he hit twenty.
Their big thing was not that they fought like banshees or screaming wildmen, but they fought with more discipline than anybody else. They wouldn't break and run, they wouldn't break lines and give the enemy an opportunity. They had been taught to endure hardships, which served them well there, and they had been retreat was worse than death. If there had actually been a Spartan left to go tell the story of what had happened to the 300 at the Hot Gates, like in the movie, the guy would have been disgraced and no one would have paid attention to him.
Their big thing was not that they fought like banshees or screaming wildmen, but they fought with more discipline than anybody else. They wouldn't break and run, they wouldn't break lines and give the enemy an opportunity. They had been taught to endure hardships, which served them well there, and they had been retreat was worse than death. If there had actually been a Spartan left to go tell the story of what had happened to the 300 at the Hot Gates, like in the movie, the guy would have been disgraced and no one would have paid attention to him.[/QUOTE]
they sound like hitlers waffen SS. hitlers elite front line troop who were ideologicaly motivated and were feared by all they fought against
they sound like hitlers waffen SS. hitlers elite front line troop who were ideologicaly motivated and were feared by all they fought against
javaguru
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The average Greek hoplite probably averaged 5'5" and 135 lbs.Spartacus said:
When forensic experts examined the remains of the combatants from the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest. A battle where the Germanic barbarians pwned the Romans, they found the average height of a Roman Legionaire was 5'2" and the average barbarian was 5'9 1/2" . No wonder the Romans considered them giants and enlisted them in the legions.
My military history professor had a theory about the fact there two types of European armour that survive. The large and the small; His assertion was that since armour was scavenged and used or sold the extreme examples for really tall or really short men would survive and the armour of the "average" man would eventually "wear out" and be disposed of. A poor knight might have eaten like a peasant but a wealthy noble probably had a very good diet of meat.
javaguru
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The Spartans also rarely fought. The Athenians cleaned the clock of the Persians at Marathon and the Spartans arrived after the major victory. The Corinthians beat their asses repeatedly in the later years because they fought them enough to understand their tactics.blackhawk60 said:
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ray666 said:
they sound like hitlers waffen SS. hitlers elite front line troop who were ideologicaly motivated and were feared by all they fought against[/QUOTE]
regular german whermacht fought as well
on the russian front it was typical for a division of 20,000 to be attrited down to 1200-2500
and still fight as a cohesive unit
google demyansk pocket
javaguru
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regular german whermacht fought as wellSpartacus said:
on the russian front it was typical for a division of 20,000 to be attrited down to 1200-2500
and still fight as a cohesive unit
google demyansk pocket[/QUOTE]
The SS also suffered disproportionate casualties in Poland and France. They re-vamped their training to focus less on political indoctrination and more on military training after those campaigns. The Wehrmacht held a certain disdain for the SS in the early years as "political soldiers."
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[/QUOTE]
The Wehrmacht held a certain disdain for the SS in the early years as "political soldiers."[/QUOTE]
but they were damn glad to have an SS division on their flank on the russian front
The Wehrmacht held a certain disdain for the SS in the early years as "political soldiers."[/QUOTE]
but they were damn glad to have an SS division on their flank on the russian front
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romanians too
I thought they gave a good account for themselves
they were just overwhelmed
I thought they gave a good account for themselves
they were just overwhelmed
calveless wonder
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nimbus said:
dunno bro...japanese people are fuckin brilliant. i can't speak for the rest of asia because they're not as elite (korea is very close)
oh...and as far as baseball players. most baseball players who are hispanic, are black hispanic. Most dominicans are basically black (except the really light skinned ones), and you look at most of the cubans, puerto ricans in the league...most of them are of the black population of their countries. Same with the venezulans, peruvians etc in the league.
so yes, blacks rule almost all athletics. most american black people decide to play football or basketball, not as much interest in baseball.
spart is correct about hockey being expensive, thus not many blacks in it. But if they played, they'd def dominate it.
long distance runners? Kenya
Track and field stars? LMFAO..name 1 white one.
Even soccer...Look at all the elite players. Alot of the brazilian players are black brazilians. Most of the south american teams with the exception of argentina, don't even have white people on their team...even though the majority of their population is euro-hispanic or indi-hispanic.
If you've ever met a normal brazilian, they don't look anything like Ronaldihno or Ronaldo. Henry, top 5 player in the world?French Black.....
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that Jeremy dude in the last olympicscalveless wonder said:
that was awesome
the waffen ss was 1 million strong by 1945 over half were european volenteers. they made up less than 10 percent of german forces and always fought fanaticaly and usually to the death on the eastern front. in the final days the reichstag was defended by foreign SS troops the long and short of it is they were bad motherfuckers.. oh and it was the ss which stopped german lines disintigrating time and again
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Jeremy WarinerSpartacus said:
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I think the Italians get a bad rap in north africajavaguru said:
they'd run out of water(supply issues)
the most bad ass army in the world can't fight w/o water
especially in that heat
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Italians on the eastern front -From "Campaign in Russia " by Leon Degrelle
In 1941 the Italians were the largest foreign unit on all the Eastern
Front. Sixty thousand of them had come, divided into three divisions
and into numerous detachments of specialists. One saw them everywhere,
from the Ditieper to the Donets, small, swarthy, funny-looking in
their two-pointed forage caps, or looking like birds of paradise under
their bersagliere helmets from which projected, amidst the gusts of
the steppe, a stately crop of rooster and pheasant feathers!
The Italians' rifles looked like toys. They used them with great skill
to kill all the chickens in the region.
We had made their acquaintance as soon as we arrived in
Dniepropetrovsk. We soon formed a very high opinion of their spirit of
initiative and of their craftiness. They had gathered round an
enormous cask which sat, unguarded, on a railway car. It was brimful
with Chianti wine. In the side of this mighty tun the Italians had
drilled a tiny hole from which the wine gushed through a hollow straw.
The invention proved quite a success with our topers, who went back
time and time again to that wondrous fount, worthy of the Burgundian
weddings of Charles the Bold or of Philip the Good! The Italians, sure
of their supply-it was a 2,000-liter cask-amicably traded places with
us. From that moment on, the Walloon volunteers were extremely
enamoured with Italy and were delighted with the collaboration it
provided on the Eastern Front!
The front was not a single, continuous line, but a series of strong
points. Our posts in Cherbinovka had only snow to their left and
right. To reach the closest Italians, whose sector extended to the
south toward Stalino, we had to march for two hours across the steppe.
We used to go to chat with them during lulls in the fighting.
Obviously, their lemons and their Chianti were of some importance. But
their charm also drew us.
The complication was that they detested the Germans. The latter, in
turn, couldn't abide the Italians' light fingers or their ardent
armours in the ruined isbas. Neither could they tolerate the Italians'
whimsical demeanor and quaint Latin carefreeness, so full of
irreverence, indolence, persiflage, and natural grace, so different
from Prussian stiffness.
By contrast, the Italians bridled whenever they saw a German snap to
attention or cry out orders. That didn't fit in with having their
hands in their pockets, wearing their russet plumes, and performing
their merry escapades.
Their brand of nationalism was also different. The Italians loved
Mussolini and over and over cried out "Du-cel Du-cel Du-ce!" until
they were hoarse. Such outburts were only of a sentimental kind,
however.Mussolini's dreams of imperial grandeur did not reach them.
They were as proud as
peacocks, but without ambition.One day,when they insisted on their
desire to have peace again at any cost.
"But if you do not struggle to the very end, you are going to lose
your colonies!"
"Bah!," they answered, "what good is it to kill yourself for some
colonies? We are happy at home. We don't need anything. We have the
sun. We have our fruits. We have love . . ."
As a philosophy it had its counterparts. Horace had said the same
thing, but less frankly.
Likewise, they found it absolutely useless to work too hard. Our idea
of human labor left them bored. Why work so much? And again they would
take up their soft, alluring, sing-song litany: the sun, the fruits,
love ...
"After all," I continued, "work is a joy! Don't you other nations love
to work?"
Then an Italian from the South, with princely grace, offered me this
reply magnificent in its artlessness and its solemnity..
"But sir, what good is work?"
"What good is it?", When Germans heard such answers they choked for a
week
and very nearly had attacks of apoplexy.
For the Italians, to their misfortune, the day and night watches
provided some 'good," as did the thankless duty in the snow and ice.
Often their gregarious sentries left their posts to bask in the warmth
of an isba where they chattered, jested, mooched, and studied very
closely the attributes of the local beauties.
The Russians finally took their measure with a low blow. Our pleasant
comrades from across the Alps paid dearly for their Latin nonchalance.
One night, in the southern part of the sector, strong detachments of
Cossacks glided on their high-strung horses across the deep snow. At
dawn, they were easily able to encircle three villages occupied by the
Italians, but unprotected by the guards, who were busy sleeping or
making love. They were taken completely by surprise.
The Soviets particularly detested the Italians. They hated them even
more than they did the Germans, and on the Eastern Front they always
treated them with an extraordinary cruelty. In the twinkling of an eye
they seized the three villages. No one had the time to react. The
Italians were then dragged to the coal pits, where they were
completely stripped of their
clothes. Then the torture began. The Cossacks brought large buckets of
icy water. Roaring with laughter, they emptied thern on the bodies of
their victims in cold which hovered 30 to 35 degrees below zero
centigrade. The poor wretches in the three villages all died, frozen
alive.
No one escaped, not even the doctors. Not even the chaplain, who,
stripped like a Roman marble, also suffered the torture of water and
ice. Two days later, the three villages were recaptured. Naked bodies
lay everywhere in the snow, twisted, contorted, as if they had died in
a fire.
>From that time on, the Italian troops of the Donets were reinforced by
German armor. All along their lines heavy German tanks, painted
entirely white, engines throbbing, lurked in the deep snow.
That was a necessity.
The Reds became more and more active. To our left, to our right, they
struck violently. Day and night, the steppe shook with gunfire. Soviet
airplanes appeared. Their bombs dug large gray craters around us.
The cold became ever more penetrating. In mid-January, the temperature
dropped to 38 degrees below zero.
Our little horses' snouts were all white with ice. From their
nostrils, wet with blood, spattered, drop after drop, on the trail,
hundreds of spots, like pink carnations.
In 1941 the Italians were the largest foreign unit on all the Eastern
Front. Sixty thousand of them had come, divided into three divisions
and into numerous detachments of specialists. One saw them everywhere,
from the Ditieper to the Donets, small, swarthy, funny-looking in
their two-pointed forage caps, or looking like birds of paradise under
their bersagliere helmets from which projected, amidst the gusts of
the steppe, a stately crop of rooster and pheasant feathers!
The Italians' rifles looked like toys. They used them with great skill
to kill all the chickens in the region.
We had made their acquaintance as soon as we arrived in
Dniepropetrovsk. We soon formed a very high opinion of their spirit of
initiative and of their craftiness. They had gathered round an
enormous cask which sat, unguarded, on a railway car. It was brimful
with Chianti wine. In the side of this mighty tun the Italians had
drilled a tiny hole from which the wine gushed through a hollow straw.
The invention proved quite a success with our topers, who went back
time and time again to that wondrous fount, worthy of the Burgundian
weddings of Charles the Bold or of Philip the Good! The Italians, sure
of their supply-it was a 2,000-liter cask-amicably traded places with
us. From that moment on, the Walloon volunteers were extremely
enamoured with Italy and were delighted with the collaboration it
provided on the Eastern Front!
The front was not a single, continuous line, but a series of strong
points. Our posts in Cherbinovka had only snow to their left and
right. To reach the closest Italians, whose sector extended to the
south toward Stalino, we had to march for two hours across the steppe.
We used to go to chat with them during lulls in the fighting.
Obviously, their lemons and their Chianti were of some importance. But
their charm also drew us.
The complication was that they detested the Germans. The latter, in
turn, couldn't abide the Italians' light fingers or their ardent
armours in the ruined isbas. Neither could they tolerate the Italians'
whimsical demeanor and quaint Latin carefreeness, so full of
irreverence, indolence, persiflage, and natural grace, so different
from Prussian stiffness.
By contrast, the Italians bridled whenever they saw a German snap to
attention or cry out orders. That didn't fit in with having their
hands in their pockets, wearing their russet plumes, and performing
their merry escapades.
Their brand of nationalism was also different. The Italians loved
Mussolini and over and over cried out "Du-cel Du-cel Du-ce!" until
they were hoarse. Such outburts were only of a sentimental kind,
however.Mussolini's dreams of imperial grandeur did not reach them.
They were as proud as
peacocks, but without ambition.One day,when they insisted on their
desire to have peace again at any cost.
"But if you do not struggle to the very end, you are going to lose
your colonies!"
"Bah!," they answered, "what good is it to kill yourself for some
colonies? We are happy at home. We don't need anything. We have the
sun. We have our fruits. We have love . . ."
As a philosophy it had its counterparts. Horace had said the same
thing, but less frankly.
Likewise, they found it absolutely useless to work too hard. Our idea
of human labor left them bored. Why work so much? And again they would
take up their soft, alluring, sing-song litany: the sun, the fruits,
love ...
"After all," I continued, "work is a joy! Don't you other nations love
to work?"
Then an Italian from the South, with princely grace, offered me this
reply magnificent in its artlessness and its solemnity..
"But sir, what good is work?"
"What good is it?", When Germans heard such answers they choked for a
week
and very nearly had attacks of apoplexy.
For the Italians, to their misfortune, the day and night watches
provided some 'good," as did the thankless duty in the snow and ice.
Often their gregarious sentries left their posts to bask in the warmth
of an isba where they chattered, jested, mooched, and studied very
closely the attributes of the local beauties.
The Russians finally took their measure with a low blow. Our pleasant
comrades from across the Alps paid dearly for their Latin nonchalance.
One night, in the southern part of the sector, strong detachments of
Cossacks glided on their high-strung horses across the deep snow. At
dawn, they were easily able to encircle three villages occupied by the
Italians, but unprotected by the guards, who were busy sleeping or
making love. They were taken completely by surprise.
The Soviets particularly detested the Italians. They hated them even
more than they did the Germans, and on the Eastern Front they always
treated them with an extraordinary cruelty. In the twinkling of an eye
they seized the three villages. No one had the time to react. The
Italians were then dragged to the coal pits, where they were
completely stripped of their
clothes. Then the torture began. The Cossacks brought large buckets of
icy water. Roaring with laughter, they emptied thern on the bodies of
their victims in cold which hovered 30 to 35 degrees below zero
centigrade. The poor wretches in the three villages all died, frozen
alive.
No one escaped, not even the doctors. Not even the chaplain, who,
stripped like a Roman marble, also suffered the torture of water and
ice. Two days later, the three villages were recaptured. Naked bodies
lay everywhere in the snow, twisted, contorted, as if they had died in
a fire.
>From that time on, the Italian troops of the Donets were reinforced by
German armor. All along their lines heavy German tanks, painted
entirely white, engines throbbing, lurked in the deep snow.
That was a necessity.
The Reds became more and more active. To our left, to our right, they
struck violently. Day and night, the steppe shook with gunfire. Soviet
airplanes appeared. Their bombs dug large gray craters around us.
The cold became ever more penetrating. In mid-January, the temperature
dropped to 38 degrees below zero.
Our little horses' snouts were all white with ice. From their
nostrils, wet with blood, spattered, drop after drop, on the trail,
hundreds of spots, like pink carnations.
S
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Guest
They called themselves the "assault generation" and they had largely been born in the years during and after World War I. Coming from every nation of Europe, they had risen up against the twin hydra of communism and big capitalism and banded together under one flag for a common cause. Fully a million of them joined the German Army in World War II, nearly half of them with the Waffen-SS. And it was in the Waffen-SS, the elite fighting force of Germany, where the idea of a united, anti-communist Europe became fully developed. [Image: Norwegian SS Recruiting Poster -- "Fight for Norway".]ray666 said:
It was also in the Waffen-SS where a new society emerged from among the "front fighters" of thirty different nations. It was a society that had been forged in the sacrifice, sweat and blood of the battlefield and that propagated the concept of "one new race," the European race, wherein language and national differences counted for little, while the culture of each nation was taken for granted as a common heritage. Many countries sent more volunteers into the Waffen-SS than they could raise for their own national armies, so something truly phenomenal was taking place.
The Waffen-SS itself was something unusually special. It had started out as a small-sized personal bodyguard for Adolf Hitler but had gradually expanded into a full-scale military force under the guidance of a number of disgruntled former army officers who saw the Waffen-SS as a chance to break out from the conservative mold that the German Army had become mired in. The Waffen-SS was designed from the start to be a highly mobile assault force whose soldiers were well versed in the art of handling modern, close-combat weapons. The training regimen therefore resembled that given to special commandos in other countries, but it pre-dated U.S. and British commando training by nearly a decade.
The soldiers of the Waffen-SS were also the first to utilize the camouflage battle dress that was to later become so common. But in one field, that of internal personnel organization, the Waffen-SS has yet to be imitated much less surpassed. The Waffen-SS was probably the most "democratic" armed force in modern times. Rigid formality and class structure between officers and other ranks was strictly forbidden. An officer held down his position only because he had proven himself a better soldier than his men, not because of any rank in society, family connections or superior academic education. In sports -- one of the vital cogs in the Waffen-SS training programs -- officers and men competed as equals in an atmosphere that sponsored team work and mutual respect and reliance. Non-German volunteers of whatever nationality were not regarded as inferiors; they were judged on their ability and performance as soldiers.
The idea to actively recruit foreign nationals into the Waffen-SS came shortly after the outcome of the Polish Campaign of 1939, when SS units were being formed and enlarged and it was noticed that a great many men (usually of German extraction) from foreign countries were volunteering for service. The fact that Waffen-SS recruitment among Germans was restricted by the Wehrmacht, made these "out country" volunteers all the more desirable. Since Western Europe contained many sympathizers and admirers of Germany and its National Socialist government, the SS decided to create three new regiments ("Nordland," "Westland" "Nordwest") for Dutch, Flemish, Danish and Norwegian volunteers in the spring of 1940. There was at this time, little in the way of a cohesive, Pan-European ideal to follow, but thousands of recruits turned up anyway, primarily out of disgust for the performances of their respective socialist/pacifist governments.
For many there was additional incentive. In Belgium, Holland and France, scores of populist and right-wing political figures had been arrested, incarcerated and beaten, and shot-out-of-hand. The most famous single incident occurred in Abbeville, France in May 1940, when French police lined up 22 leading Belgian right-wing leaders and executed them in a public park shortly before the arrival of the Germans. It was certainly a "war crime" -- one of the first in fact to be committed and documented in World War II -- but try to find it in a history text book! The establishment historians have shied away from any discussion of this event. Following this massacre, many of the followers of the victims flocked to join the new volunteer regiments of the Waffen-SS.
The war with the Soviet Union, commencing in June 1941, brought a new direction to the effort to attract European volunteers in what can be called "The Legionary Movement."
Legion Wallonie: This was organized as a mountain-infantry battalion. It was formed by the SS from the French-speaking Belgians (Walloons) and was taken over by the Wehrmacht in late 1941 so as not to offend the "Germanic" Flemings already serving in the Waffen-SS. It fought exceptionally well in the campaign through the Caucausus Mountains alongside the SS Division "Wiking." It contained many former Belgian Army Officers and the famous political leader Leon Degrelle, who exhibited a flare for death-defying heroics. It was finally re-transferred back into the Waffen-SS in June 1943 at Degrelle's request and was reformed as an assault brigade.
javaguru
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Rommel's army was primary composed of Italians and they were very successful under his command, even with the language/culture barrier. I also give Ike credit for pulling the coalition forces together, just shows he was born to be a politician.Spartacus said:
If Rommel had gotten his fuel Earlier at El Alamein the battle probably would have had a different outcome.
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Razorguns said:
i studied electrical engineering at UTexas and UMaryland, and white kids absolutely smoked the asian kids in all of my classes with no exceptions. They are good at math, but nothing that requires creativity.
i'm now getting a masters in what is narrowing itself down to be transportation economics, and the asians in my classes are always bringing up the rear
by asian i mean japanese, chinese, korean, vietnamese etc.
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javaguru said:The Spartans also rarely fought. The Athenians cleaned the clock of the Persians at Marathon and the Spartans arrived after the major victory. The Corinthians beat their asses repeatedly in the later years because they fought them enough to understand their tactics.
There was a time of greatness for Sparta, before they became too stagnant and caught up in thier own rituals, and killed their society. They were badasses for a bit. They did kick ass for a while, but Athens always had the better navy. People overlook the naval battle that took place with the land battle at Thermapylae...It was just as extraordinary as the land battle, and the Athenian in charge was brilliant. I can't remember too much of the details, would have to re-read it, but they went up against egyptians, phoenicians, persians, other greeks, and a shitload more of people the persians had with them.
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your avatar reminds me of the sloth dude in se7en
Did I read the newspost correctly? They are using the word "stronger" to mean more diversity in the population genome?
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Japanese people that grew up in America aren't smarter than any other white/black/hispanic person that grew up in America because they all roughly went through the same education system as a youth
It's the Japanese kids that actually GREW UP in Japan that tend to be smarter than Americans because their education system extremely exceeds the American system
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It's the Japanese kids that actually GREW UP in Japan that tend to be smarter than Americans because their education system extremely exceeds the American system
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nimbus
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Razorguns said:
i hear you on that, but if you go back to my original post, you'll see that I actually mentioned that asians worked harder to begin with.
And i don't know what your line of work is so no offense, but i don't think that IT guys are very smart. They just know computers and software really well.
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nimbus said:
That is *skill*.
It takes smarts to get up in the morning and learn skills.
Skills are what sets your salaries in life.
So Smart = Skills = $
If you ain't got smarts in the first place, you don't get the skills, and you find yourself flipping burgers at Burger King.
I find the American applicants smart too, but they're arrogant, slow and at 5pm - they get the fuck outta there. Cuz their only motivation was money.
The last person I hired was Canadian.
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Razorguns said:That is *skill*.
It takes smarts to get up in the morning and learn skills.
Skills are what sets your salaries in life.
So Smart = Skills = $
If you ain't got smarts in the first place, you don't get the skills, and you find yourself flipping burgers at Burger King.
I find the American applicants smart too, but they're arrogant, slow and at 5pm - they get the fuck outta there. Cuz their only motivation was money.
The last person I hired was Canadian.
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i can actually feel myself ruining this thread as i type, so before i drop it i just wanna add that i never thought asians werent smart, i just dont think they deserve to be considered the most intelligent race
We're in the midst of the eastern European athletic revolution folks. Soon you'll be seeing 'studies' that 'prove' eastern Europeans have higher testosterone levels, greater bone density, higher neurological efficiency, etc. I don't doubt back in the day when Jews excelled at throwing a ball through a hoop the similar statements were said of them.
Recently there was a study released that 'proved' Asians are the smartest race of people. The authors claimed this study was adjusted to compensate for cultural differences between races and ethnic groups. How they did this is beyond me. I'm sure the prior studies that 'proved' a different ethnicity 'X' smarter than ethnicity 'Y' would claim a similar lack of bias.
Stick an Asian quantum physics PhD in the jungles of Papua New Guinea and see if he's smart enough to live more than a few days. The 'intellectually inferior' black aboriginals thrive.
Recently there was a study released that 'proved' Asians are the smartest race of people. The authors claimed this study was adjusted to compensate for cultural differences between races and ethnic groups. How they did this is beyond me. I'm sure the prior studies that 'proved' a different ethnicity 'X' smarter than ethnicity 'Y' would claim a similar lack of bias.
Stick an Asian quantum physics PhD in the jungles of Papua New Guinea and see if he's smart enough to live more than a few days. The 'intellectually inferior' black aboriginals thrive.
This thread is pointless.
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Where you been?layinback said:reductio ad absurdum: all threads are pointless. whites are genetically weaker than bengal tigers.
I didn't point out the small sample size and they didn't disclose the methodology but I would assume they used college students for the sample. Statistically speaking, it's more likely to get a black college student that is a scholarship athlete and they may show more genetic advantages. Of Course, that can skew the validity of any conclusions.
layinback said:reductio ad absurdum: all threads are pointless. whites are genetically weaker than bengal tigers.
Bengal tigers kick ass. A white guy could still shoot one though, pointlessly. I wouldn't myself since I believe in the laws of nature.
