when did these high doses become the right thing?

[bigjd69]

Yeah I know LOL

 

[NYBodyguard]

i posted about this many times i fully agree no need for high doses at all

 

[slat1]

550/week of test is still a lot to me.
My last blood test i was 302ng/dl at 256lbs. The reference range ws 900 - 1200.
My point is the bigger you are does not mean you need more test.
There are 165 lb guys producing more test then me!
The irony is with low test levels i still outgrew guys on a gram+ of AAS. It was all diet!
*thanks to QS Sis for the diet help too!

 

[todoveritas]

I'm with Slat. Show me a guy who needs a gram of test a week to grow and I will show you someone who either: A) started too high, too young and burned out his nads; or B) Does not pay enough attention to his diet.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I prefer cycles like 500mgs to 750mgs of test e all by itself, 300mgs of test with 300mgs of deca. Or that deca/test combo with 25-35mgs of dbol thrown in for a few weeks. My gallery and avi pics are me and I think I'm a decent size for 6'4.

Honestly, no need to go out of control to put mass on. I believe more is needed when on a contest diet, because then you are fighting to hold onto it all. Proper training and nutritioni are the real keys to mass building.

 

[party_booye]

could be the drugs have got slightly worse too- think about it, i dont do steroides so dont start slagging me if i'm wrong but back in the 90's half an Extacy was adverage - 2,3,4 e's was just crazy and now people pop ten and are alive- purly because the drugs have got weaker- so maybe alot of people but UG stff? and thats why they take so much?

 

[gabulldogs02]

my friend got KEPT 20lbs off 250mg of sust a week.when i 1st started. people dont want to listen about using less cause they are afraid of getting 15-25lbs. newbies just dont want to hear it. my 2nd cycle was 500mg of test alone and i made great gains off that.

 

[OMEGA]

My gallery and avi pics are me and I think I'm a decent size for 6'4.

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bro your big, like a super sized Greek Statue

 

[Quadsweep]

my friend got KEPT 20lbs off 250mg of sust a week.when i 1st started. people dont want to listen about using less cause they are afraid of getting 15-25lbs. newbies just dont want to hear it. my 2nd cycle was 500mg of test alone and i made great gains off that.

i believe it! I gained 27# and kept 20# off 250mg sust a week for 8 weeks and no PCT back then.


Quad

 

[UFC22]

I will be starting this monday and now I feel that i'm doing to much after reading this thread! Some very good points were thrown out in the thread, makes me wonder. My buddy is a national competitor and he does very well with low doses. In this cycle I was just using the norm doses for each compound. 400-500mgs of test, 600mgs of EQ, and 300mgs of tren. Those are usually baseline dosages for each of the compounds. As far as the var goes I just heard so many good things about it if ran 80mgs+.

1-8 - Anavar 80-100 mgs/ED

1-20 - Test Cyp 500mgs/EW & down to 400mgs/EW weeks 9-20

1-20 - Equipoise 600mgs/EW

9-20 - Tren Enanthate 300mgs/EW

9-22 - Turinabol, halo, or winstrol.