when did these high doses become the right thing?

[Inhibitor13]

high doses or not I believe diet/rest/and intense workouts is where it lies. Muscle comes in time, like said above, too many people want here and now. That goes with dieting to building. Just the way times are anymore.

 

[mickeyb69]

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It is crazy,

I am just starting my first really high dosage cycle,

2 grams of Test E per week 1-14
800mg of Deca 1-14


I have ramped up to 2 grams in the last 10 days, so next week will be my first full week on the above cycle,

Still have a little d-bol which I will finish in the next 10 days.


Not bloated, have felt light headed, my bp is normal for me 137/80 today.
If I can handle the above, some where in there I would like to add 50 days of Tren Ace at 100mg per day. But that is a want, not really part of the cycle.

My goal is to gain 20lbs of muscle in 14 weeks, and only pack on 30lbs total.

5’5”
190lbs
57 years old15% body fat


Is that what it takes to gain 20 lbs. of muscle?

 

[bigjd69]

This is a GREAT thread. I LOVE this site and look forward everyday to reading peoples post and giving people advice when needed, but it has been bothering me since I have been a member here. My philosophy is " Less is more" My Doc put me on Test Therapy a few months back, Cyp at 200 mgs a week. Well HOLY SHIT!!! I put on 15 lbs like nothing. Yes!!! Off of 200 mgs a week. So why do we need a gram, 2 grams etc. plus all of the other anabolics that some people add to the mix? It's Freaking CRAZY!!! Esp for the younger guys. If you are a 20 yr old kid and want to go on a cycle I personally think that you shouldn't, but if you do PLEASE dont do all of the CRAZY doses, you dont need it. If you start taking all of these crazy doses when you are that young where do you go from there? Only one way up. You know what is going to happen you will turn into a 25 yo with a receiding hairline, unable to get an erection, with zits all over your back. There is no easy way the only way is diet and hard training, getting enough rest, live the lifestyle and good things will come. I dont know about you guys but I am in it for the long haul and will not burn myself out with all these crazy amounts of drugs that I read about on this site. Sorry for the rant, I am out.

 

[luke_moore]

No disrespect, but isn't most of this common sense?

Seems more like a reputation thing going on to here...

 

[Mac173]

Who gives a shit what other people run?
What does it matter?
Why do people feel as if they have to get on their soapbox and preach about other peoples cycles.
Not that I'm in favor of high dosages, I don't run high dosages but I don't give a shit if other people do.
If SS wants to run 2g of test let em and get off his ass.

 

[OMEGA]

I think people worry that NEWBS will run a Gram or more which is WRONG to do in my opinion.

I forget who but several vets used to say "do a gram of Test your first cycle" etc

 

[Mac173]

I think people worry that NEWBS will run a Gram or more which is WRONG to do in my opinion.

I forget who but several vets used to say "do a gram of Test your first cycle" etc

Don't play dumb, you know who it was.

 

[bigjd69]

Well most of us do care and that is why we are members. I am a member so that I can stay in touch with the sport that I enjoy bbing weightlifting etc. and to help people with whatever advice that I or you can give. It's called giving back. I have over 26 yrs experience so if I can help out a young kid just starting out, IMO it's what life is about giving a little back. Not to mention that if some newbie starts off by going on some ridiculous amounts of doses that I read about on this site and has a heart attack and dies, do you think that is what we need right now esp that AAS and HGH is being portrayed now adays as heroin or crack? Yeah, sure lets make the governments case for them so that the media can use whatever negative to further the witch hunt against AAS.

 

[needtogetaas]

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It is crazy,

I am just starting my first really high dosage cycle,

2 grams of Test E per week 1-14
800mg of Deca 1-14


I have ramped up to 2 grams in the last 10 days, so next week will be my first full week on the above cycle,

Still have a little d-bol which I will finish in the next 10 days.


Not bloated, have felt light headed, my bp is normal for me 137/80 today.
If I can handle the above, some where in there I would like to add 50 days of Tren Ace at 100mg per day. But that is a want, not really part of the cycle.

My goal is to gain 20lbs of muscle in 14 weeks, and only pack on 30lbs total.

5’5”
190lbs
57 years old15% body fat


Is that what it takes to gain 20 lbs. of muscle?

lol

 

[OMEGA]

Don't play dumb, you know who it was.

what? lol

um no I dont remember who said what

I remember IDEAS not people

I just remember the Gram Test cycle being thrown around pretty commonly which I think is INSANE