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when a female crosses over?

heavy_duty said:
Fuck, I was just shooting the shit about women who look like men but don't see it.
I have nothing but respect for their dedication but you don't need testosterone to have dedication.

serious vehemence built up towards them

so why are you here?....at a steroids forum? Is it because you've realized that training intensely without testosterone, and all of it's bastard children, just doesn't cut it? Well, that's why I'm here......so yes, you don't need testestosterone to have dedication to going to the gym.....but if you want to break through that glass ceiling you sure do. And that's what those girls are after......they don't want to be in playboy.
 
true, you don't need test to have dedication, but i'll tell you what, now that i've added AAS to my dedication, i am enjoying the process and results of my efforts to a much greater degree.

do i look like a man and just haven't noticed? good question. if i do, i don't attribute it to AAS use b/c i haven't been on that long, and i haven't ventured into some of the stronger stuff. it's hard to see ourselves objectively. and to a degree, it's relative. depending on what you think a woman "should" look like, you may have a higher/lower tolerance for amount of muscularity on a female.
now as far as the face is concerned, if you aren't pretty before using, AAS will not help the cause. however, there are women such as gina davis, christine roth, cindy phillips, etc, who have a good deal of muscle and beautiful feminine faces...so it's possible.

so, to back to the original topic, from what i've observed, some don't see the masculinization b/c it occurs gradually, and others are willing to live with it b/c the rewards of using AAS outweight the sides for them.
 
heavy_duty said:
do women who are starting to look like men know they are? do they look in the mirror and think their big jaw and man face is sexy? :p

it really is amazing how people see themselves. I suppose just like some far arses dont realize they're fat or skinny people dont see that either.

any way my question is do you know any female BB who dont realize they look more man than WOman?

Yeah, theres one at my gym that is a freak. There is absolutely nothing feminine about her anymore... she looks, walks, and talks like a man. I don't know if anyone has seen the movie "Cobra" w/ Stallone, but she looks like the leader of the gang of psychos...squared off jaw, super prominent cheekbones, big chin. She is digusting. I don't understand the point of pushing something to the point that it makes you completely undesirable to the opposite sex. Everyone cringes at the sight of this chick, and I'm pretty sure she has a higher testosterone level than half the guys at the gym. :worried:
 
I Think some people reading this thread only read a few posts then hit reply. I never said one negative word about muscles on a female...of course we all love that!!! it was only about the face. (and clit and deep voice)

Muscles on a girl does not make her a man but a square ass jaw and 4" clitoris does LOL..
 
Post up a picture and we'll let you know if you're manly! :p


phoenix13 said:
true, you don't need test to have dedication, but i'll tell you what, now that i've added AAS to my dedication, i am enjoying the process and results of my efforts to a much greater degree.

do i look like a man and just haven't noticed? good question. if i do, i don't attribute it to AAS use b/c i haven't been on that long, and i haven't ventured into some of the stronger stuff. it's hard to see ourselves objectively. and to a degree, it's relative. depending on what you think a woman "should" look like, you may have a higher/lower tolerance for amount of muscularity on a female.
now as far as the face is concerned, if you aren't pretty before using, AAS will not help the cause. however, there are women such as gina davis, christine roth, cindy phillips, etc, who have a good deal of muscle and beautiful feminine faces...so it's possible.

so, to back to the original topic, from what i've observed, some don't see the masculinization b/c it occurs gradually, and others are willing to live with it b/c the rewards of using AAS outweight the sides for them.
 
heavy_duty said:
I Think some people reading this thread only read a few posts then hit reply. I never said one negative word about muscles on a female...of course we all love that!!! it was only about the face. (and clit and deep voice)

Muscles on a girl does not make her a man but a square ass jaw and 4" clitoris does LOL..


if that was directed at me, my apologies... i digressed.

yes, i know a couple. one doesn't see it, and the other accepts it as the price for the level of muscularity she has (pro in ifbb)
 
phoenix13 said:
of my jaw and my clit? :qt:
nah butt will do to determine your femininity





now on a serious note

i have yet to see a female that did not have something going for her that i could make a compliment out of. except the bearded lady i used to work with(and if she would have just bathed i probably could have come up with something)
the sad fact is that women ofter are taught that appearance is the most important thing in thier lives. its sad because the apperance they are taught to have is unreachable for the majority. and threre are many more important things than apperance.

some guys will argue with me that they will only go for the hottest chicks but i garuntee they will have a story of the hot chick they let go or dumped because of they way they acted.

um thats all
i guess im sayin be nice to everyone
expecially girls
 
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