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I also wanted to add that the only tren I've used is from fina pellets. I know it is legit and trust it since I know exactly what's in it. I think some people possibly get EQ or something else when they order Tren. I also never get tren cough and a few people I've asked who use the same tren as me don't get the cough either and the only real issues some people have are anger problems but that depends on the kind of person you are and the good thing about tren ace is you can drop it if you become a lunatic and it is out of your system quickly.
 
lol why dont we all just start using synthol whey were at it? and throw in some HGH too. Fuck it right.....lol

sure, tren works great, but at what cost?

I get some pretty damn good gains off test along, and I will probably just run test and maybe some deca while switching up the orals I use to kickstart for my next few cycles...at least

.....and then.....when I finally DO decide to use tren, I will surpass the people that jumped into it right away.....at least I think so. lol

I just think the sides(from what I have heard and seen) are not worth it....at least not at first.

I havent used tren yet, but I dont need to. If you cant grow on test/deca/dbol, then you dont know how to train and eat. I think tren should be left for when you stop making gains with other compounds.

and most of the time, the people that jump into super high doses right away, or tren right away.....wont even be training in 10 years or less

its a way of life, a marathon, so Ill wait to use the steroid with the reputation for the most severe sides till I actually NEED it. just my 2 cents, but to each his own.........

Excellent post

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In my experience....Gets your physique hard, strength gains are suberb, intensity in the gym is suberb, great for vascularity IMO, and it's great for cutting or bulking. Stacked it with test and at times Winny. Night sweats are OUT OF CONTROL!!!! Had to chnage my shirt 3 times a night with a fan! Tren cough on only a few occasions (and was using Tren Ace ED). In my late 30's now so I avoid Nondralone derivatives anymore though. If you can bare the sides then go for it.
 
Can someone describe the side effects of tren besides the lack of sleep??
For me.....it was bad night sweats (pillow stayed soaked), high blood pressue, made me quick to speak my mind, didnt care if it pissed u off. Not my normal easy going character. I got the biggest, nasty, gigantic, painful purple zits Ive ever seen in my life. I came off tren ace 3 months ago & I still have purple marks on my body where the zits were. On the good side....I got great results from it. Strength great, leaned out, waist shrunk (even with a crappy diet), nice hard look. Dont plan on running it again tho. Dont want to deal with the sides. Just not worth it...for me anyway.
 
i have a detailed log up of the sides i encountered.

was de-hydrated almost right off the bat, no matter how much i drank always felt thirsty... killed my appetite.. didn't feel like eating after a workout when i'm usually starving, felt blah and if i did any cardio after my weights i would get naseous. later on was dealing with horrible pumps. all in all sides weren't THAT bad but the whole feeling naseous and de-hydrated made me glad when i stopped it. my strength on it was crazy, took me to another level..

would i run it a 3rd time? probably. it works fast, is cheap, and i was able to recover from it pretty quickly.

but i want to try var next, one of the only AAS i have never tried.
 
For me.....it was bad night sweats (pillow stayed soaked), high blood pressue, made me quick to speak my mind, didnt care if it pissed u off. Not my normal easy going character. I got the biggest, nasty, gigantic, painful purple zits Ive ever seen in my life. I came off tren ace 3 months ago & I still have purple marks on my body where the zits were. On the good side....I got great results from it. Strength great, leaned out, waist shrunk (even with a crappy diet), nice hard look. Dont plan on running it again tho. Dont want to deal with the sides. Just not worth it...for me anyway.

Hmmm well I had all those sides last time I ran test and deca so shouldn't be a problem
 
I do lots of strongman type conditioning, sprints, sledge hammer work, sled pulls and pushes, and might be getting back into some MMA....those are my conditioning days in addition to heavy olympic/powerlifting days....so Tren doesnt sound compatible with heavy conditioning either huh?
 
I do lots of strongman type conditioning, sprints, sledge hammer work, sled pulls and pushes, and might be getting back into some MMA....those are my conditioning days in addition to heavy olympic/powerlifting days....so Tren doesnt sound compatible with heavy conditioning either huh?
You'll probably do better with test/deca/an oral
Tren will make you sweat nonstop. You get strong as hell but your cardio goes downhill and you burn calories just sitting,
 
Im not doing a lick of cardio, just training extremely hard while in the gym and eating large amounts of clean calories, hardly any carbs. BF% 11% today, down from 14%, added another 2LBS since OP.
 
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