what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo yaaa baby.

[black sheep]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

I did not take my first derma test until "8 months latter after the use of clomid"
so the rais in test and drop in estagen had nothing to do with the clomid and only the derma played a role.

That is not what I meant needto... What I meant was how long will the elevation stay after discontinuing use? This will help determine if it is really helping restore HTPA or just boosting levels while taking it.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

That is not what I meant needto... What I meant was how long will the elevation stay after discontinuing use? This will help determine if it is really helping restore HTPA or just boosting levels while taking it.

o yes well we are thinking of doing another test now to. and I think medical is doing before after 2 weeks and after 2 weeks of test with his test to.

 

[wrknonit]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

That upside-down avi is fucking killing me!

o yes well we are thinking of doing another test now to. and I think medical is doing before after 2 weeks and after 2 weeks of test with his test to.

 

[rompperstomper]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

interseting i posted one thing asking for a double blinded placebo test .....
and get two bombs on my karama.....

i never said the product was bullshit All I asked for was scientific studies...(not people given free samples)
if they are soon to follow thats great . these are products that are being sold and people spend hard earned money on the products we are entitled to 3rd party , placebo studies word of mouth does not mean much ( as nice of a fellow you are needto) but numbers don't lie ...
let us have acess to the lab and the peoples account numbers so we can log on and veiw saliva test before and after of a few dozen people. to see if we want to buy it.
also is the testosterone free bound or bound big difference read some studies you'll know eaxctly what i mean
taken a saliva test in the morning could show higher results then taken one at night ... is the siliva test taken 1,3,8,or 12 hours afterthe product in ingested? will the product raise levels for 3 hours 12 maybe even 24 hours...thats where saliva test have fualts .if someone wants to really test this have blood drawn at 9 am every monday for 4 weeks to get a reading of free and bound test levels even then sleep, diet and other factors can effect the readings

 

[MegaDesel]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

care to eat your words now MegaDesel or later.

Look you dolt... Forgive me if I have concerns about a product that just came out with a handful of people pushing it.... I want concrete proof that it works, I WILL NOT just put anything in my body, I like research and quality test subjects that I RESPECT. As far as conspiracy theories go where the f%#$ did you get that? I merely mentioned that I wanted additional testing from and outside party, is this company beyound question? Maybe-maybe not, but before I put anything in my body or spend that kind on money I want again Research.

 

[artificialaspirations]

I wonder what the readings would be one or two weeks after stopping the derma?

How do the saliva test levels relate to total test? Is there an equation to figure that out?

 

[Primordial Performance]

Rompstomper,

No supplement company is performing peer reviewed, double-blind, placbo controlled studies as its just not economical, nor is it necessary. A 100% increase is more than a placebo effect, I can assure you of that. Again, more saliva tests are on the way to further back up these results.

These results are legit, nobody is “photoshopping” or skewing them. If testers want to give you access to their account thats up to them.

FYI, These saliva tests are testing for "free" bioavailable test.

Blacksheep,

Testers have maintained a higher testosterone level 2 weeks after stopping dermacrine than before they started the derma (non steroid users). Please see the multiple tests posted here on both a 44yr old and a 23yr old. More saliva tests are underway…

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=532758&page=1

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

interseting i posted one thing asking for a double blinded placebo test .....
and get two bombs on my karama.....

i never said the product was bullshit All I asked for was scientific studies...(not people given free samples)
if they are soon to follow thats great . these are products that are being sold and people spend hard earned money on the products we are entitled to 3rd party , placebo studies word of mouth does not mean much ( as nice of a fellow you are needto) but numbers don't lie ...
let us have acess to the lab and the peoples account numbers so we can log on and veiw saliva test before and after of a few dozen people. to see if we want to buy it.
also is the testosterone free bound or bound big difference read some studies you'll know eaxctly what i mean
taken a saliva test in the morning could show higher results then taken one at night ... is the siliva test taken 1,3,8,or 12 hours afterthe product in ingested? will the product raise levels for 3 hours 12 maybe even 24 hours...thats where saliva test have fualts .if someone wants to really test this have blood drawn at 9 am every monday for 4 weeks to get a reading of free and bound test levels even then sleep, diet and other factors can effect the readings

if you botherd too look at the test resolts rather then spew off at the mouth then maybe you might not have gotten bomed.you came in here gunz bazzing with blind fery and dont act like you did not.....

the time the test was taken the date and how long after application of the product is on on the dame test yet you seem to not know that why becaue you never looked at the fucking thing.................in one thread you say you are "19" years old and have never don juice but in other post you act like you
are a fucking guro of some kind....you came into ulters thread bashing aifm as well talking about how you know ronie colmen get the fuck out of here that why I bombed you because you are a truble maker and any one can see you have a big mouth and you like to run it.......now its bin a long time since some one has pissed me off on this site but your doing a dame good job.you want to see red pal lol you ant seen nothing yet.

the red I gave you has more to do with you being a fuck tard then any thing elce and the red others gave you is because they feel the same way........

19 years old and already a chemical wizzerd lmao guess you must have red a book and now you know every thing.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

Look you dolt... Forgive me if I have concerns about a product that just came out with a handful of people pushing it.... I want concrete proof that it works, I WILL NOT just put anything in my body, I like research and quality test subjects that I RESPECT. As far as conspiracy theories go where the f%#$ did you get that? I merely mentioned that I wanted additional testing from and outside party, is this company beyound question? Maybe-maybe not, but before I put anything in my body or spend that kind on money I want again Research.

chill there big fellow I got no beef with you.I understand your a good bro.

 

[MegaDesel]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

chill there big fellow I got no beef with you.I understand your a good bro.

SORRY, just felt I was being attacked without being able to express my concerns... I am very interested in this product and am following very closely to all results, when i'm satisfied I will give it a whirl as i get done with current cycle in 10 weeks, should be enough time to either convice me or not.