what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo yaaa baby.

[needtogetaas]

o and my estragen was still way to high even after the clomid but was not after the derma.

 

[JohnnyWest]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

o and my estragen was still way to high even after the clomid but was not after the derma.

thats cuz clomid isn't an AI, i would still be more comfortable using a SERM WITH the derma and then continue the derma after the clomid to keep estro down, once you stop clomid you will most likely have high-normal estrogen levels because the negative feedback mechanism is not working (which is intended)

 

[JohnnyWest]

but the product looks good!

I like using herbs rather then pharmaceuticals if i can

 

[black sheep]

How soon after Derma did you get the test. If you took a test right after finishing clomid your test would be thru the roof. I made that mistake and had after PCT blood work done 3 days after I finished last Clomid/Nolva day - My total test was 1350 - 4 weeks later it was ~500

 

[medical]

I think some one needs to try the stuff and get there own tests done, that will be the day i pay for the shit!

it is being done as we speak....so far results have mirrored those posted. I had a large independant test going that got scaled back but is still happening.......few testers post cycle and a few all natty. 2 week results show elevated test, elevated DHEA, lowered estrogen......progesterone is all over the place but that may have to do with other sups and pct.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

How soon after Derma did you get the test. If you took a test right after finishing clomid your test would be thru the roof. I made that mistake and had after PCT blood work done 3 days after I finished last Clomid/Nolva day - My total test was 1350 - 4 weeks later it was ~500

I did not take my first derma test until "8 months latter after the use of clomid"
so the rais in test and drop in estagen had nothing to do with the clomid and only the derma played a role.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

it is being done as we speak....so far results have mirrored those posted. I had a large independant test going that got scaled back but is still happening.......few testers post cycle and a few all natty. 2 week results show elevated test, elevated DHEA, lowered estrogen......progesterone is all over the place but that may have to do with other sups and pct.

care to eat your words now MegaDesel or later.

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

i didnt see hcg anywhere in yuor cycle or pct

you mean I didnt even have to stick another needle in my ass and I still raised me test.wow.

 

[msam76]

Glad to hear it needto!

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

Glad to hear it needto!