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Watch This Dumb Bitch Get Tazed

Best video ever! Seriously, she was told to get out the whole time, and she didn't do shit. She just kept gabbing on her phone. I like the play by play to her boyfriend or whatever, except when she got tazed. I'm buying stock in those today I think. She had a suspended license? Is that why she wouldn't get out of the car? And she took a swing at him when he opened the door to get her? I'm glad she got tazed. Why is it people feel they can just tell cops what they are going to do? Sad thing is, she'll probably sue the department and win a few million.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
actually you jumped into a thread the other day quite spitefully, when brotherbill was playing around and insinuated (in humour) that i had made a bad drug decision for curling.

if you want to have a go at me thats fine, i really dont give a toss one way or the other, but do me a favour and come right out with it and say what you think
I always tell you how it is, I never mince words. I just don't understand why you constanlty degrade the USA...instead of worrying so much about this nation I think you should be more conerned with your own nation's issues, which their are many.
GoldenDelicious said:
furthermore in regard to your above comment about loving the USA and not liking people "talk shit about the USA", might i point out that george w bush and his moronic policies are not the USA. the USA is a country, full of (generally) good people, though it is not lacking in faults, and if someone wishes to criticise those faults might i suggest a better way to go about it is to let your brain tick over a few times, thinking about what they have said about your beloved country, before you get defensive and become abusive - because let me tell you, from an external perspective, many americans are ignorant to the point of being warped.
well, i never said anything about loving the USA, not one time in this thread. And, frankly, Bush and his "moronic" policies are the USA, they represent the majorities choice of policies and represenatives. Please don't insult my intelligence "let my brain tick"...my brain has been ticking a few more years than yours.

GoldenDelicious said:
well of course you get a better response from police when you cooperate, but that isnt what we are talking about here. what we are talking about is appropriate handling of a situation and the use of force by police officers. if you think its ok for cops to act as the guy above did, then what can i say, ill leave you alone in "the land of the free" while youre being treated like a dog by people paid to protect you.

i dont care what country youre in and what you people are used to, i am disgusted, as a human being, not only at the brutality exhibited by that officer, but the acceptance of his actions by the americans on the forum.

that tape would have people in australia screaming for the sacking/disciplining of that officer

well their bor, in the USA cops get dead when people don't cooperate. proly different than in aussie, but here the hoods' have guns and people aren't afraid to use them against law officers. You cannot take that chance cause you never know when someone is gonna start shooting. Cops in metro areas can't afford to take shit from some dumb cunt, if they do they could wind up dead as fuck...

A
 
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This is the funniest thing i have ever seen!!
lmfao

i kept wanting them to tell her to stop screaming or they would do it again!!
hahahaha

BGI
 
Seriously, the screaming part is pure porno material. Turn off your screen with just the audio and it would look like an buttfuck scene,
 
GoldenDelicious said:
actually you jumped into a thread the other day quite spitefully, when brotherbill was playing around and insinuated (in humour) that i had made a bad drug decision for curling.

if you want to have a go at me thats fine, i really dont give a toss one way or the other, but do me a favour and come right out with it and say what you think

furthermore in regard to your above comment about loving the USA and not liking people "talk shit about the USA", might i point out that george w bush and his moronic policies are not the USA. the USA is a country, full of (generally) good people, though it is not lacking in faults, and if someone wishes to criticise those faults might i suggest a better way to go about it is to let your brain tick over a few times, thinking about what they have said about your beloved country, before you get defensive and become abusive - because let me tell you, from an external perspective, many americans are ignorant to the point of being warped.


well of course you get a better response from police when you cooperate, but that isnt what we are talking about here. what we are talking about is appropriate handling of a situation and the use of force by police officers. if you think its ok for cops to act as the guy above did, then what can i say, ill leave you alone in "the land of the free" while youre being treated like a dog by people paid to protect you.

i dont care what country youre in and what you people are used to, i am disgusted, as a human being, not only at the brutality exhibited by that officer, but the acceptance of his actions by the americans on the forum.

that tape would have people in australia screaming for the sacking/disciplining of that officer

The officer is in a dangerous position to begin, standing alongside a car on a street where he can be killed by an inattentive motorist. He stopped a woman who was breaking the law and was uncooperative from the start. He did the right thing absolutely.
She was driving on a suspended license, speeding and uncooperative to the point she physically assaulted a policeman.
Policemen have a rough job and are under constant scrutiny. It is a thankless job. they are most often damned if they damned if they don't. I have family serving the public, I would expect the same from them. By saving their asses they are saving ours. Period.
Respect the badge, you don't have to respect the man. She was wrong.
LMAO at the rascist crap she whined too. Now police are racist for doing their job?
 
Yes. You didn't know this? If you are not the same color as the person you offend, no matter what race, you are racist.


mountain muscle said:
LMAO at the rascist crap she whined too. Now police are racist for doing their job?
 
mountain muscle said:
The officer is in a dangerous position to begin, standing alongside a car on a street where he can be killed by an inattentive motorist. He stopped a woman who was breaking the law and was uncooperative from the start. He did the right thing absolutely.
She was driving on a suspended license, speeding and uncooperative to the point she physically assaulted a policeman.
Policemen have a rough job and are under constant scrutiny. It is a thankless job. they are most often damned if they damned if they don't. I have family serving the public, I would expect the same from them. By saving their asses they are saving ours. Period.
Respect the badge, you don't have to respect the man. She was wrong.
LMAO at the rascist crap she whined too. Now police are racist for doing their job?

Not only was the officer in a dangerous position physically, cops are killed more than you think on 'routine' traffic stops. She could have decided to pull out a gun while stalling. Yes, many more people carry concealed weapons than should and/or licensed to do so. I still say he was right.
 
'Another Taser-less Death'
Last weekend, a 56-hour standoff with a homicide suspect ended without fatality or serious injury when police subdued the suspect with a stun gun. Hovering on a construction crane, the man reached for some water when police struck with a Taser (Nasdaq: TASR).

Taser may not immediately come to mind when you think of making the world a better place. The company has been attacked by the media, Amnesty International, and others who claim that stun guns can be unduly lethal. What these groups fail to recognize is that stunning an individual has a far less chance of ending fatally than shooting him with a bullet.

Data from police forces currently using Tasers confirms this fact. In 2003, The Arizona Republic reported that officer shootings in the Phoenix area dropped nearly 50% in the six months that Tasers were on the job. At the end of 2004, the Cape Coral, Fla., police department reported 83% fewer officer injuries and 40% fewer subject injuries following the widespread adoption of Tasers. Tasers also proved to be safer than batons, dogs, and pepper spray (based on Cape Coral's savings in injury-related costs).

I wrote the above headline to help us go beyond the headlines: "Another Taser-less Death." From now on, I want to see more articles about lives that could have been saved if every police officer in every city had a Taser on his or her belt.

Talk to police who use stun guns. Talk to the people in blue who resolve conflicts on a daily basis and sometimes put their own lives in jeopardy. An overwhelming number of them will tell you that this is the best development in the recent history of law enforcement. But in our litigious society, driven by lust for the lurid headline, Tasers have been given a bad name, while guns continue to take lives every day.

The market has punished Taser recently, but I think the company will be back. Its product is too good for society to ignore.
 
I'll admit that she was a stupid bitch but I honestly felt the officer used his weapon too quickly. I really did think it was an over reaction. I don't like the tasers simply because they give them to officers and tell them it's non lethal force. This gives the cops the idea that they can use them with absolutely no risk. However, I think there have been about 100 confirmed deaths from this device. It's really not good for someone with a bad heart. I don't think they teach the officers that these weapons are potentially deadly. This cop could have pulled her from that vehicle with his hands. Also, I didn't like the way he used it so quickly.

Does anyone else remember the girl that got killed by the "beanbag" gun in Boston after the World Series last year? That was another example of "non-lethal force" used by police.
 
manny78 said:
Thank you, Mr. Armchair commando. Dude, you should really consider the SAS, Delta Force or some kind of badass elite group or maybe just work as a cop for a few weeks just to see how well you could use your great "skills" in the real world.
1) im too tough for that shit
2) i like the way you called me Mr. as befits a dog yapping at his betters
3) i use my skillz all the time, getting recalcitrant grannies to take their drugs properly, and bouncing druggies trying to buy pseudoephedrine, on top of my latenight adventures
 
manny78 said:
Seriously, the screaming part is pure porno material. Turn off your screen with just the audio and it would look like an buttfuck scene,

:lmao:
 
Gambino said:
I always tell you how it is, I never mince words. I just don't understand why you constanlty degrade the USA...instead of worrying so much about this nation I think you should be more conerned with your own nation's issues, which their are many.
im equally critical of australias shortcomings, believe me...i just dont really voice them here, since its never really relevant...and besides, australias shortcomings dont make americas shortcomings suddenly acceptable - theyre independent problems and should be viewed critically as such

Gambino said:
well, i never said anything about loving the USA, not one time in this thread. And, frankly, Bush and his "moronic" policies are the USA, they represent the majorities choice of policies and represenatives. Please don't insult my intelligence "let my brain tick"...my brain has been ticking a few more years than yours.
its all about perspective. you have little concept of your own ignorance (as do we all). your view of this issue is an example of that. i would take any bet that you would feel differently about this issue were you to have been raised in another, less brutal society.

Gambino said:
well their bor, in the USA cops get dead when people don't cooperate. proly different than in aussie, but here the hoods' have guns and people aren't afraid to use them against law officers. You cannot take that chance cause you never know when someone is gonna start shooting. Cops in metro areas can't afford to take shit from some dumb cunt, if they do they could wind up dead as fuck...

A
fair enough, but i didnt see any threat in that video. i just saw a cop with little patience accellerating the level of violence for the sake of ease, rather than appropriate management. implying that tasering her was a safety issue is insulting

cheerios
 
mountain muscle said:
The officer is in a dangerous position to begin, standing alongside a car on a street where he can be killed by an inattentive motorist. He stopped a woman who was breaking the law and was uncooperative from the start. He did the right thing absolutely.
She was driving on a suspended license, speeding and uncooperative to the point she physically assaulted a policeman.
Policemen have a rough job and are under constant scrutiny. It is a thankless job. they are most often damned if they damned if they don't. I have family serving the public, I would expect the same from them. By saving their asses they are saving ours. Period.
Respect the badge, you don't have to respect the man. She was wrong.
LMAO at the rascist crap she whined too. Now police are racist for doing their job?
oh come on, mm! a dangerous situation standing on the side of the street, and so it was imperative that he tase her to minimise that threat? how about...moving to the other side of the car?

ive explained myself a few times already, so i wont repeat it again - ragardless of ht risks/danger etc inherent to police work, they have the training and equipment to have been able to have handled that way better, without use of the taser. end of story.

cheers

and aristotleBC, i dont like to bitch about america...its just that there are so many thing about america to bitch about!
 
mountain muscle said:
The officer is in a dangerous position to begin, standing alongside a car on a street where he can be killed by an inattentive motorist. He stopped a woman who was breaking the law and was uncooperative from the start. He did the right thing absolutely.

To say that the officer was in danger in this situation is a little obsurd. Gambino made a comment earlier about how if officers dont do their job quick enough, their suspects may start to get ideas and pull out a gun or something.
I would doubt that this woman had a gun if I had been in the officer's shoes and conversing with her. And if she did have a gun, she probably would have used it long before he began to taze her.

You need to be able to give the people you are serving a little bit of trust from time to time even if it might add a miniscule-sized risk to your personal safety.
And to speak to them in a respectful tone is also important (which this officer did not do)

In every place all over America, businesses communicate using friendly greetings. When you go into a store and buy something from a clerk, you receive a "hi". When you go to an important interview, hellos and "how are yous" are exchanged.

Why do policemen skip over these pleasantries? I think it would help them out a lot of they were to drop a simple "Hi" or "Howdy" before they issue the ticket.

To say "Hello" (that word itself) takes a second, and makes a big difference in terms of relating to people.
Doing this could help bolster the image of policeman in the public eye, which would make everyone's lives a lot easier.


She was driving on a suspended license, speeding and uncooperative to the point she physically assaulted a policeman.

We really have no proof that she actually did this. Or Her swing may have been her trying to slap the officer's hands away when he was trying to take her phone.
 
bran987 said:
'Another Taser-less Death'
Last weekend, a 56-hour standoff with a homicide suspect ended without fatality or serious injury when police subdued the suspect with a stun gun. Hovering on a construction crane, the man reached for some water when police struck with a Taser (Nasdaq: TASR).

Taser may not immediately come to mind when you think of making the world a better place. The company has been attacked by the media, Amnesty International, and others who claim that stun guns can be unduly lethal. What these groups fail to recognize is that stunning an individual has a far less chance of ending fatally than shooting him with a bullet.

Data from police forces currently using Tasers confirms this fact. In 2003, The Arizona Republic reported that officer shootings in the Phoenix area dropped nearly 50% in the six months that Tasers were on the job. At the end of 2004, the Cape Coral, Fla., police department reported 83% fewer officer injuries and 40% fewer subject injuries following the widespread adoption of Tasers. Tasers also proved to be safer than batons, dogs, and pepper spray (based on Cape Coral's savings in injury-related costs).

I wrote the above headline to help us go beyond the headlines: "Another Taser-less Death." From now on, I want to see more articles about lives that could have been saved if every police officer in every city had a Taser on his or her belt.

Talk to police who use stun guns. Talk to the people in blue who resolve conflicts on a daily basis and sometimes put their own lives in jeopardy. An overwhelming number of them will tell you that this is the best development in the recent history of law enforcement. But in our litigious society, driven by lust for the lurid headline, Tasers have been given a bad name, while guns continue to take lives every day.

The market has punished Taser recently, but I think the company will be back. Its product is too good for society to ignore.

The tazer is a good tool for policemen, but it should be used as a replacement for firing bullets, not as a means to bully people around and make them follow your orders in a more 'timely fashion'.
 
He should have used his pistol.


evansteve said:
The tazer is a good tool for policemen, but it should be used as a replacement for firing bullets, not as a means to bully people around and make them follow your orders in a more 'timely fashion'.
 
musclemuscle said:
Ok...so now if we do not obey an "officers" command we get stunned...that is rediculous! This country is becoming more and more like Nazi Germany and less like America.

Yes. We have to have order. Are you afraid of getting tazed?
 
musclemuscle said:
thats the risk the cop takes....and if he dies..well good...one less crooked cop on the street...one less dickhead to push people around to ease his big ass ego!

There are a few good cops out there but the majority are just plain dicks!

You expect to be taken serious with a comment like that? You are making yourself look ridiculous.
 
Razorguns said:
Ignorance knows no bounds.

Next time you get car-jacked, or one of your family members attacked -- call Gi Joe.

Keep viewing the world through your own limited experiences. You keep doing that.

my car was jacked and when i called the cops all i got was an answering that said to call back monday. then they basically did that routine shit and that was about it. Waste-o-time Then i get speeding ticket a month later where they had 6-7 cops just waiting all day, thats what makes me pissed. Seems like my taxes are supporting cops to write weak tickets and not actually help when i do need it.
 
musclemuscle said:
Ok...so now if we do not obey an "officers" command we get stunned...that is rediculous! This country is becoming more and more like Nazi Germany and less like America.
Ummmm, sorry grasshopper, you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about. The U.S., aside from a few notable exceptions have some of the most polite & most patient Officers in the world. I've seen the police in action in Spain, Germany, France, Switzerland, & Austria. They are more pragmatic, less undersstanding. She was being pulled over for a legitimate reason & as a miscreant she could not be expected to do anything other than to obey.
Ten years ago they would have broken her arm trying to get her out of the car.
 
vansmack2000 said:
my car was jacked and when i called the cops all i got was an answering that said to call back monday. then they basically did that routine shit and that was about it. Waste-o-time Then i get speeding ticket a month later where they had 6-7 cops just waiting all day, thats what makes me pissed. Seems like my taxes are supporting cops to write weak tickets and not actually help when i do need it.

So the whole police industry, comprising of hundreds of thousands of men & women of different sexes, races, agencies, ages and values -- are all summed up due to your limited interactions with a few?

So the value of law enforcement all revolves around whether YOU get a speeding ticket or not? Maybe they should put that sideline in the next state session.

Ever sat down and wonder WHERE those speeding ticket fines go to? Ever think of who actually pulls the strings there?

You're yelling at the guards and ignoring the wizard who runs the kindgom inside the castle.

Then again -- with a tunnel-vision, biased, prejudiced outlook on life -- it's not surprising.
 
hidngod said:
Ummmm, sorry grasshopper, you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about. The U.S., aside from a few notable exceptions have some of the most polite & most patient Officers in the world. I've seen the police in action in Spain, Germany, France, Switzerland, & Austria. They are more pragmatic, less undersstanding. She was being pulled over for a legitimate reason & as a miscreant she could not be expected to do anything other than to obey.
Ten years ago they would have broken her arm trying to get her out of the car.


and homeboy claims he once was a police officer. I'm gonna call bullshit on that, or if he was a cop at one time, he was dishonorably discharged
 
Razorguns said:
So the whole police industry, comprising of hundreds of thousands of men & women of different sexes, races, agencies, ages and values -- are all summed up due to your limited interactions with a few?

So the value of law enforcement all revolves around whether YOU get a speeding ticket or not? Maybe they should put that sideline in the next state session.

Ever sat down and wonder WHERE those speeding ticket fines go to? Ever think of who actually pulls the strings there?

You're yelling at the guards and ignoring the wizard who runs the kindgom inside the castle.

Then again -- with a tunnel-vision, biased, prejudiced outlook on life -- it's not surprising.


hardly what i said, but nice spin you put on it there.
 
OK, time for me to put my $0.02 in here.

I live in DC. I have several close friends who are police officers here. Hell, I keep coffee on at my home 24/7, and the cops that work in the hellhole that I call home know that they can knock on my door anytime to get water, coffee, or any other non-alcoholic beverage they need while on duty. Cops in DC are not paid anywhere near enough for putting their lives on the line day-in, day-out.

One friend of mine was on a traffic stop a few years ago, with his partner (now deceased), when some thug walked up behind his partner and shot him in the back of the head. My friend ended up shooting him fifteen times before he went down. Guy was loaded to the gills on PCP.

Another friend of mine was on a traffic stop just over a year ago. Pulled over a 17 year old female for running a stop sign. When he walked up on the car, she was on the phone. He asked her to put the phone down several times. She finally complied, after about the 5th or 6th order, and came up with a 9mm handgun. He leaned back just as she pulled the trigger, and instead of taking a round in the forehead, she "just" blew his hat off and ended up permanently scarring his forehead due to the powder burns, and partially blinding him in one eye. Long story short, she bailed out of the car after a 20 minute car chase, and was arrested. Turns out, she was supposed to have killed a cop as part of a gang initiation. Her trial will be later this year, and suprisingly enough, the liberal scumbags in this city are actually trying her as an adult. Even more amazingly, the officer in this case was returned to full duty, even with partial blindness, and now rides a desk at headquarters. He has been trying furiously to be put back on the street for 6 months now.

I have about a dozen more stories, from close friends of mine who are police here, detailing being shot or shot at on traffic stops. If any of you liberal cock gobblers would like me to detail them, just PM me. After watching all four vids, I believe that the woman was lucky she didn't get bootstomped, as the police would have done to her here, as the police do not have tasers. She resisted arrest, and the use of force here was entirely justified.

To all of the ĂĽber-liberals, and cop haters here, who are talking out of their collective asses: kindly go fill the shoes of one police officers in my city for a year, and then see if you feel the same way. You wang wranglers believe that the criminals of the world are the victims, and the enforcers of the law are the criminals. Without the thin blue line enforcing the laws of this nation, you would be nothing more than the vassal of some regional warlord, ala the middle east, subject to death at their whim.

And finally, to liberals the world over.....

Kindly insert your wangs into a garbage disposal, and turn on the power. Or, if you are female, catch yourself a case of the clap, long term. The though of you bringing your offspring into the world truely frightens me. As the product of whatever welfare state you live in, you believe that you should not be responsible for your actions. Fuck that. If you break the law, and resist arrest, you should have your ass kicked. Perhaps the next time, you would think twice about breaking the law, or assaulting one of the men or women tasked with enforcing those laws.

The ACLU, and other liberal collectives have defanged and declawed the police here in the US to the extent that violence against police officers here is an epidemic. I believe that a return to the days of "beat and release" is in order, despite the hand-wringing and bitching that liberals here would engage in. Perhaps if violators of the law realized that going to jail was the least of their concern, crime, especially violent crime, would begin to go down in big cities again.

Oh yeah, to the ass goblin who believes that tasers should replace firearms, my message by my bomb under your name is all you need to know. :evil:

To the rest of you who have read the posts I have put up here. You know that I am usually a well spoked, non-cursing poster. However, this thread has definately brought out the wost in me. However, I will not appologize for offending you, if indeed I have, as some things just need to be said. :verygood:
 
Lestat said:
I agree with manny on this, in that car you can get no leverage to use your submission moves. you'd first have to drag her out, which would be tough, and likely scratch her up and hurt her joints in the process. Might even tear some clothes off (another lawsuit).

& seriously, if you think you're a big tough man, and no broad is gonna hurt you, you'ce never been hit by a phsyco. They don't fight according to the Marquis de Queensbury's rules. Wereas you've gotta show restraint & not hurt her.
Not that easy.
 
evansteve said:
The tazer is a good tool for policemen, but it should be used as a replacement for firing bullets, not as a means to bully people around and make them follow your orders in a more 'timely fashion'.

to clarify what I wrote here (for the asshat that bombed me)
I still believe that guns should be used when necessary. The point of the tazer is to use it in serious situations where you dont want to kill your suspect. For example, suppose you are pulling over a really big dude, and you are not sure if you can force him into submission by yourself if he were to fight you.

Tazers shouldnt be used like cattle prods, to shock your victims when they arent moving at the "proper pace"
 
musclemuscle said:
That, my friend, is one of the reasons that I despise Police Officers. That conflict could have been peacefully resolved simply through a little patience and smooth talking.

Controlling, power hungry, police do what they want and rarely consider how it effects others.
tell me your kidding... that lady was giving him attitude and being a stupid bitch the ENTIRE time, acting all smug thinking she knows the laws better than a police officer, and then resisted arrest and fought with the popo.

she deserved that just for being annoying, but there was legal backing
 
dunk said:
lmao at the end when shes like

"occifa. i dont care whstch' all say i aint neva done been tazed befoe"

ide hate to think what the person she was on the phone was thinking with all that screaming.
LOL@OCCIFA
 
ziggyziggy said:
OK, time for me to put my $0.02 in here.

I live in DC. I have several close friends who are police officers here. Hell, I keep coffee on at my home 24/7, and the cops that work in the hellhole that I call home know that they can knock on my door anytime to get water, coffee, or any other non-alcoholic beverage they need while on duty. Cops in DC are not paid anywhere near enough for putting their lives on the line day-in, day-out.

One friend of mine was on a traffic stop a few years ago, with his partner (now deceased), when some thug walked up behind his partner and shot him in the back of the head. My friend ended up shooting him fifteen times before he went down. Guy was loaded to the gills on PCP.

Another friend of mine was on a traffic stop just over a year ago. Pulled over a 17 year old female for running a stop sign. When he walked up on the car, she was on the phone. He asked her to put the phone down several times. She finally complied, after about the 5th or 6th order, and came up with a 9mm handgun. He leaned back just as she pulled the trigger, and instead of taking a round in the forehead, she "just" blew his hat off and ended up permanently scarring his forehead due to the powder burns, and partially blinding him in one eye. Long story short, she bailed out of the car after a 20 minute car chase, and was arrested. Turns out, she was supposed to have killed a cop as part of a gang initiation. Her trial will be later this year, and suprisingly enough, the liberal scumbags in this city are actually trying her as an adult. Even more amazingly, the officer in this case was returned to full duty, even with partial blindness, and now rides a desk at headquarters. He has been trying furiously to be put back on the street for 6 months now.

I have about a dozen more stories, from close friends of mine who are police here, detailing being shot or shot at on traffic stops. If any of you liberal cock gobblers would like me to detail them, just PM me. After watching all four vids, I believe that the woman was lucky she didn't get bootstomped, as the police would have done to her here, as the police do not have tasers. She resisted arrest, and the use of force here was entirely justified.

To all of the ĂĽber-liberals, and cop haters here, who are talking out of their collective asses: kindly go fill the shoes of one police officers in my city for a year, and then see if you feel the same way. You wang wranglers believe that the criminals of the world are the victims, and the enforcers of the law are the criminals. Without the thin blue line enforcing the laws of this nation, you would be nothing more than the vassal of some regional warlord, ala the middle east, subject to death at their whim.

And finally, to liberals the world over.....

Kindly insert your wangs into a garbage disposal, and turn on the power. Or, if you are female, catch yourself a case of the clap, long term. The though of you bringing your offspring into the world truely frightens me. As the product of whatever welfare state you live in, you believe that you should not be responsible for your actions. Fuck that. If you break the law, and resist arrest, you should have your ass kicked. Perhaps the next time, you would think twice about breaking the law, or assaulting one of the men or women tasked with enforcing those laws.

The ACLU, and other liberal collectives have defanged and declawed the police here in the US to the extent that violence against police officers here is an epidemic. I believe that a return to the days of "beat and release" is in order, despite the hand-wringing and bitching that liberals here would engage in. Perhaps if violators of the law realized that going to jail was the least of their concern, crime, especially violent crime, would begin to go down in big cities again.

Oh yeah, to the ass goblin who believes that tasers should replace firearms, my message by my bomb under your name is all you need to know. :evil:

To the rest of you who have read the posts I have put up here. You know that I am usually a well spoked, non-cursing poster. However, this thread has definately brought out the wost in me. However, I will not appologize for offending you, if indeed I have, as some things just need to be said. :verygood:

You couldn't pay me enough to do their job, Police Officers don't make the laws, they just enforce them.


Dave
 
ziggyziggy said:
OK, time for me to put my $0.02 in here.

I live in DC. I have several close friends who are police officers here. Hell, I keep coffee on at my home 24/7, and the cops that work in the hellhole that I call home know that they can knock on my door anytime to get water, coffee, or any other non-alcoholic beverage they need while on duty. Cops in DC are not paid anywhere near enough for putting their lives on the line day-in, day-out.

One friend of mine was on a traffic stop a few years ago, with his partner (now deceased), when some thug walked up behind his partner and shot him in the back of the head. My friend ended up shooting him fifteen times before he went down. Guy was loaded to the gills on PCP.

Another friend of mine was on a traffic stop just over a year ago. Pulled over a 17 year old female for running a stop sign. When he walked up on the car, she was on the phone. He asked her to put the phone down several times. She finally complied, after about the 5th or 6th order, and came up with a 9mm handgun. He leaned back just as she pulled the trigger, and instead of taking a round in the forehead, she "just" blew his hat off and ended up permanently scarring his forehead due to the powder burns, and partially blinding him in one eye. Long story short, she bailed out of the car after a 20 minute car chase, and was arrested. Turns out, she was supposed to have killed a cop as part of a gang initiation. Her trial will be later this year, and suprisingly enough, the liberal scumbags in this city are actually trying her as an adult. Even more amazingly, the officer in this case was returned to full duty, even with partial blindness, and now rides a desk at headquarters. He has been trying furiously to be put back on the street for 6 months now.
I have about a dozen more stories, from close friends of mine who are police here, detailing being shot or shot at on traffic stops. If any of you liberal cock gobblers would like me to detail them, just PM me. After watching all four vids, I believe that the woman was lucky she didn't get bootstomped, as the police would have done to her here, as the police do not have tasers. She resisted arrest, and the use of force here was entirely justified.

To all of the ĂĽber-liberals, and cop haters here, who are talking out of their collective asses: kindly go fill the shoes of one police officers in my city for a year, and then see if you feel the same way. You wang wranglers believe that the criminals of the world are the victims, and the enforcers of the law are the criminals. Without the thin blue line enforcing the laws of this nation, you would be nothing more than the vassal of some regional warlord, ala the middle east, subject to death at their whim.

And finally, to liberals the world over.....

Kindly insert your wangs into a garbage disposal, and turn on the power. Or, if you are female, catch yourself a case of the clap, long term. The though of you bringing your offspring into the world truely frightens me. As the product of whatever welfare state you live in, you believe that you should not be responsible for your actions. Fuck that. If you break the law, and resist arrest, you should have your ass kicked. Perhaps the next time, you would think twice about breaking the law, or assaulting one of the men or women tasked with enforcing those laws.

The ACLU, and other liberal collectives have defanged and declawed the police here in the US to the extent that violence against police officers here is an epidemic. I believe that a return to the days of "beat and release" is in order, despite the hand-wringing and bitching that liberals here would engage in. Perhaps if violators of the law realized that going to jail was the least of their concern, crime, especially violent crime, would begin to go down in big cities again.

Oh yeah, to the ass goblin who believes that tasers should replace firearms, my message by my bomb under your name is all you need to know. :evil:

To the rest of you who have read the posts I have put up here. You know that I am usually a well spoked, non-cursing poster. However, this thread has definately brought out the wost in me. However, I will not appologize for offending you, if indeed I have, as some things just need to be said. :verygood:


Wow, what a post. I congratulate you, sir, on seeing the light. Great post...

Too bad your friend didn't use the proper courtesy, kindness, respectful tone, and communication skills like the people here are suggesting. Maybe that would have solved the problem, and she wouldnt've pulled out her gun?

LOL what a joke. So now we have to be courteous and respectful to as well as acomodate potentialy dangerous criminals who refuse to cooperate with the police? God, I love liberals.
 
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ziggyziggy said:
OK, time for me to put my $0.02 in here.

I live in DC. I have several close friends who are police officers here. Hell, I keep coffee on at my home 24/7, and the cops that work in the hellhole that I call home know that they can knock on my door anytime to get water, coffee, or any other non-alcoholic beverage they need while on duty. Cops in DC are not paid anywhere near enough for putting their lives on the line day-in, day-out.

One friend of mine was on a traffic stop a few years ago, with his partner (now deceased), when some thug walked up behind his partner and shot him in the back of the head. My friend ended up shooting him fifteen times before he went down. Guy was loaded to the gills on PCP.

Another friend of mine was on a traffic stop just over a year ago. Pulled over a 17 year old female for running a stop sign. When he walked up on the car, she was on the phone. He asked her to put the phone down several times. She finally complied, after about the 5th or 6th order, and came up with a 9mm handgun. He leaned back just as she pulled the trigger, and instead of taking a round in the forehead, she "just" blew his hat off and ended up permanently scarring his forehead due to the powder burns, and partially blinding him in one eye. Long story short, she bailed out of the car after a 20 minute car chase, and was arrested. Turns out, she was supposed to have killed a cop as part of a gang initiation. Her trial will be later this year, and suprisingly enough, the liberal scumbags in this city are actually trying her as an adult. Even more amazingly, the officer in this case was returned to full duty, even with partial blindness, and now rides a desk at headquarters. He has been trying furiously to be put back on the street for 6 months now.

I have about a dozen more stories, from close friends of mine who are police here, detailing being shot or shot at on traffic stops. If any of you liberal cock gobblers would like me to detail them, just PM me. After watching all four vids, I believe that the woman was lucky she didn't get bootstomped, as the police would have done to her here, as the police do not have tasers. She resisted arrest, and the use of force here was entirely justified.

To all of the ĂĽber-liberals, and cop haters here, who are talking out of their collective asses: kindly go fill the shoes of one police officers in my city for a year, and then see if you feel the same way. You wang wranglers believe that the criminals of the world are the victims, and the enforcers of the law are the criminals. Without the thin blue line enforcing the laws of this nation, you would be nothing more than the vassal of some regional warlord, ala the middle east, subject to death at their whim.

And finally, to liberals the world over.....

Kindly insert your wangs into a garbage disposal, and turn on the power. Or, if you are female, catch yourself a case of the clap, long term. The though of you bringing your offspring into the world truely frightens me. As the product of whatever welfare state you live in, you believe that you should not be responsible for your actions. Fuck that. If you break the law, and resist arrest, you should have your ass kicked. Perhaps the next time, you would think twice about breaking the law, or assaulting one of the men or women tasked with enforcing those laws.

The ACLU, and other liberal collectives have defanged and declawed the police here in the US to the extent that violence against police officers here is an epidemic. I believe that a return to the days of "beat and release" is in order, despite the hand-wringing and bitching that liberals here would engage in. Perhaps if violators of the law realized that going to jail was the least of their concern, crime, especially violent crime, would begin to go down in big cities again.

Oh yeah, to the ass goblin who believes that tasers should replace firearms, my message by my bomb under your name is all you need to know. :evil:

To the rest of you who have read the posts I have put up here. You know that I am usually a well spoked, non-cursing poster. However, this thread has definately brought out the wost in me. However, I will not appologize for offending you, if indeed I have, as some things just need to be said. :verygood:

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to ziggyziggy again.
 
i would like to see goldenshower's response to zig zigler's post...he tends to disappear
 
true "GET ER DONE"

musclemuscle said:
That, my friend, is one of the reasons that I despise Police Officers. That conflict could have been peacefully resolved simply through a little patience and smooth talking.

Controlling, power hungry, police do what they want and rarely consider how it effects others.
 
HERPECIN said:
Im so glad there are still some intelligent freedom loving people still around

Its frightening how many ignorant hicks out there want the police to have too much power and forget the reason they exist....to protect and serve

They are protecting & serving..........the rest of the law abiding public.
Oh, & one other thing (or two). Being Canadian, I think our criminal element & society is fairly close to Australia's. However, what the learned member from australia may not realize is the way their society views the police compared to the U.S.'s society. Lay the blame where you will, but the truth is the cops are putting their lives on the line every day. Imagine how the cop feels about that. Imagine the stress on his family, knowing he does that.
We all know women can be just as vicious as men, so wouldn't it be prudent to expedite the conclusion of the incident before the dumb bitch gets any more bright fucking idea's.
 
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GoldenDelicious said:
and aristotleBC, i dont like to bitch about america...its just that there are so many thing about america to bitch about!


hardly

You just constantly look for reasons to bitch. you like to do it, willfully do it, do it because its trendy in your part of the world, whatever

You are really becoming absurd. You complain about America chronically on an internet message board, and you don't even live here.

It's far beyond something you just stumble into, you do it willfully, constantly and it's almost embarassing to see your posts because there is something off about someone who complains the way you do


Your idea about letting her finish her phone call just illustrates that you're totally willing to put aside all rationality in order to be a contrarian and whine about the USA

Do you have gyno ?
 
Here comes goldendelicious. Typical PC Weenie, blaming America for his woes, which is all the rage in Europe. You'd think he was French, not British. Friggin Weenie.

 
Why wouldn't he just threaten to shoot. I mean that would work on me. Maybe fire a shot in the air first to let her know he is serious. Not saying he should shoot her but just scare herto think he might.
 
curling said:
Why wouldn't he just threaten to shoot. I mean that would work on me. Maybe fire a shot in the air first to let her know he is serious. Not saying he should shoot her but just scare herto think he might.

This is why they use tazers, so they don't have to use lethal weapons such as guns
 
redguru said:
Here comes goldendelicious. Typical PC Weenie, blaming America for his woes, which is all the rage in Europe. You'd think he was French, not British. Friggin Weenie.

redguru, i dont really see the point in your post, nor do i think it is accurate. you see, i dont have any woes. a bad day for me goes along the lines of one of the girls i see or people im going ot hang out with not calling back quickly enough to get organised for something fun.

my criticism of american policy is not rooted in discontent - its just that i disagree with some of what happens over there.

and by the way, i just thought that id point out that whatever is "all the rage" in europe rather doesnt apply to me, because i am not british, as you assert...im an australian, and greek by descent. try to be a little more accurate, if you want to (try to) make acidic remarks...or youll look like a dickhead. kind of like you do. :)

Gambino said:
i would like to see goldenshower's response to zig zigler's post...he tends to disappear
this is what im talking about, Gambino. remarks like the one above seem to me to be personal, rather than a response to the content of my posts.

so what is your problem, anyway? in the previously mentioned thread about painkilling drugs, you jumped in and spitefully said taht i 'constantly got owned' or something similarly snide, and when it turned out that brotherbill was mucking about and i was correct, you didnt say anything, or offer an apology.

your attitude stinks of a personal problem. say what it is, or keep your snide remarks to yourself.

and if youre dying to see what i have to say to ziggy, then i have good news for you...though i dont think youll be happy to read what i have to say

ziggyziggy said:
OK, time for me to put my $0.02 in here.

I live in DC. I have several close friends who are police officers here. Hell, I keep coffee on at my home 24/7, and the cops that work in the hellhole that I call home know that they can knock on my door anytime to get water, coffee, or any other non-alcoholic beverage they need while on duty. Cops in DC are not paid anywhere near enough for putting their lives on the line day-in, day-out.

One friend of mine was on a traffic stop a few years ago, with his partner (now deceased), when some thug walked up behind his partner and shot him in the back of the head. My friend ended up shooting him fifteen times before he went down. Guy was loaded to the gills on PCP.

Another friend of mine was on a traffic stop just over a year ago. Pulled over a 17 year old female for running a stop sign. When he walked up on the car, she was on the phone. He asked her to put the phone down several times. She finally complied, after about the 5th or 6th order, and came up with a 9mm handgun. He leaned back just as she pulled the trigger, and instead of taking a round in the forehead, she "just" blew his hat off and ended up permanently scarring his forehead due to the powder burns, and partially blinding him in one eye. Long story short, she bailed out of the car after a 20 minute car chase, and was arrested. Turns out, she was supposed to have killed a cop as part of a gang initiation. Her trial will be later this year, and suprisingly enough, the liberal scumbags in this city are actually trying her as an adult. Even more amazingly, the officer in this case was returned to full duty, even with partial blindness, and now rides a desk at headquarters. He has been trying furiously to be put back on the street for 6 months now.

I have about a dozen more stories, from close friends of mine who are police here, detailing being shot or shot at on traffic stops. If any of you liberal cock gobblers would like me to detail them, just PM me. After watching all four vids, I believe that the woman was lucky she didn't get bootstomped, as the police would have done to her here, as the police do not have tasers. She resisted arrest, and the use of force here was entirely justified.

To all of the ĂĽber-liberals, and cop haters here, who are talking out of their collective asses: kindly go fill the shoes of one police officers in my city for a year, and then see if you feel the same way. You wang wranglers believe that the criminals of the world are the victims, and the enforcers of the law are the criminals. Without the thin blue line enforcing the laws of this nation, you would be nothing more than the vassal of some regional warlord, ala the middle east, subject to death at their whim.

And finally, to liberals the world over.....

Kindly insert your wangs into a garbage disposal, and turn on the power. Or, if you are female, catch yourself a case of the clap, long term. The though of you bringing your offspring into the world truely frightens me. As the product of whatever welfare state you live in, you believe that you should not be responsible for your actions. Fuck that. If you break the law, and resist arrest, you should have your ass kicked. Perhaps the next time, you would think twice about breaking the law, or assaulting one of the men or women tasked with enforcing those laws.

The ACLU, and other liberal collectives have defanged and declawed the police here in the US to the extent that violence against police officers here is an epidemic. I believe that a return to the days of "beat and release" is in order, despite the hand-wringing and bitching that liberals here would engage in. Perhaps if violators of the law realized that going to jail was the least of their concern, crime, especially violent crime, would begin to go down in big cities again.

Oh yeah, to the ass goblin who believes that tasers should replace firearms, my message by my bomb under your name is all you need to know.

To the rest of you who have read the posts I have put up here. You know that I am usually a well spoked, non-cursing poster. However, this thread has definately brought out the wost in me. However, I will not appologize for offending you, if indeed I have, as some things just need to be said.
firstly, i agree that the thread has probably brought out the worst in you. your post screams of bias, and also, your abuse was uncalled for.

the essence of your post is the position that people in their respective jobs/professions can justafiably act poorly in any situation, based on previous occasions where something bad, yet highly improbable, had happened - and frankly, thats bullshit. at the end of the day, people have to act REASONABLY. saying that the woman was "lucky not to get bootstomped, as she would have around here" is sickening. at the end of the day, what did this woman do? WHAT DID THIS WOMAN DO, to deserve to be "bootstomped", by the people tasked with protecting her, no less? she was annoying. thats all it was, really. she was a loud, annoying woman with "attitude"...and YOU think that she was lucky to escape "bootstomping" because she had attitude, because SOMEONE ELSE, SOMEPLACE ELSE, at SOME OTHER TIME, had done something extreme...and you want me to take you seriously.

do you see the gap in your logic?

i feel bad for the guy who was shot in the head by the guy on PCP, as i do for the guy who was shot at by that idiot trying to get into a gang, but what the hell are we supposed to do, as a rational, clear thinking society? why not make police officers wear helmets all the time, so as not to be shot, in the back of the head, by PCP using psychos? why not mandate that police officers walk up to cars wearing kevlar and holing a bulletproof riot shield, in the off chance that the person in the car is about to kill them so as to become part of a gang? because its a fucking stupid idea. because the measures you suggest are going to cause more problems than they solve.

and the same thing applies for state sanctioned, or tolerated, police violence. police beating the shit out of people or zapping them for not acting conveniently - it is the wrong thing to do because it will not stop the root cause of the problem, and ultimately, will cause more problems than it solves.

youre worried about mr PCP freaking out and shooting your cop buddies in the head? then adress PCP use and weapon acquisition in society. booting the shit out of mr and mrs speeding ticket isnt going to help stop it, its just going to make mr and mrs speeding ticket hate your fucking guts as a cop, making them pretty bloody unhappy, and letting your society take another step for the worse.

youre worried about little miss wannabe gangbanger shooting you in the face to get into a gang? then adress the poverty and other factors that lead to gang related behaviour. adress weapon acquisition. kicking or zapping the shit out of mr and mrs speeding ticket isnt going to help miss wannabe gangbanger

do you see a pattern in my thinking, perchance? is my line of thought pervading your jaded mindset in regards to appropriate police behaviour?

i didnt say that police shouldnt use violence. i just think that they should use it judiciously. appropriately.

your thinking is idiotic, and will ultimately lead to you (and everyone else in your barbaric, sick society) being treated like mindless, dangerous, guilty-until-proven-innocent animals.

what a horrible way to live. no thanks.
 
musclemuscle said:
The lady was in no way whatsoever endangering anyone or harming a fly...his use of force by far exceeded the use of force continueum scale...the officer was way out of line and the lady should be justly compensated. That cop should be suspended or even fired!

Agreed
 
GoldenDelicious said:
redguru, i dont really see the point in your post, nor do i think it is accurate. you see, i dont have any woes. a bad day for me goes along the lines of one of the girls i see or people im going ot hang out with not calling back quickly enough to get organised for something fun.

my criticism of american policy is not rooted in discontent - its just that i disagree with some of what happens over there.and by the way, i just thought that id point out that whatever is "all the rage" in europe rather doesnt apply to me, because i am not british, as you assert...im an australian, and greek by descent. try to be a little more accurate, if you want to (try to) make acidic remarks...or youll look like a dickhead. kind of like you do. :)

Sorry for thinking you were British, but you sure do talk like a European with an axe to grind. As an Australian, wonder what your response to the Bali bombing was, at the same time you scream about Bush's responses on the world stage.
 
redguru said:
Sorry for thinking you were British, but you sure do talk like a European with an axe to grind. As an Australian, wonder what your response to the Bali bombing was, at the same time you scream about Bush's responses on the world stage.
dont feel sorry about thinking im british. feel sorry about jumping on a foolish bandwagon of abuse, calling me names (not that i give a shit, but still, its irritating in its juvinility) and throwing up that really lame picture in that link.

what do you want my response to the bali bombing to be? a bunch of idiot fanatics blew up a bunch of innocent partygoers, ruining hundreds of lives directly, and thousands indirectly, and for what? what did they prove, exactly? what did they achieve? nothing. what do i think should be done by australians? well, given the indonesian governments lack of regard for australians, i think that aussies should boycott indonesia as a holiday destination.

i dont see how that has anything to do with bush, though. iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and bush invaded. the indonesians had everything to do with the bali bombing, and australia just gave them a billion dollars in tsunami aid.

i really dont see your point.
 
To each their own. The US is definately getting more conservative, and here, police are the second most trusted institution, just after the military. The liberal media, by contrast, ranks near the bottom.

The woman in this case, swung at the officer on the other side of the vehicle. This is a felony. Use of nonlethal force in such a case is justified. I personally don't care if she spat at them. She deserved what she got. I truely believe that people would break the law less, if the threat of an immediate ass whipping was in place, in addition to arrest and prosecution.

I have no sympaty for anyone, regardless of race, color or creed, that assaults, or attempts to assault police officers. The fact that you side with the criminal in this case shows me just how far off their rocker liberal leftisis, socialists, and neo-communists are the world over.

Like I said, fill the shoes of a police officer for a week and see if you feel the same. Even if you did have the ability to, your incessant whining, and lack of analytical ability would prevent it.

Zig
 
AristotleBC said:
Curling when you fire a bullet in the air it comes back down

ok then fire it in the grass. Just the gun shot along would have made her come outside without using the tazor.
 
1) She was a stupid bitch. (ok, who cares)

2) she was driving with a suspended liscence. (for what? we dont know. Could have been serious. Hell, I would have had a gun/taser out as soon as I found out this news)

3) She was repeatedly asked to get out of the car and refused (illegal)

4) she tried to HIT another cop!!!!!! This is most certainly a tazerable offense.



These cops put their lives on the line day in and day out. A mere traffic stop can turn deadly in seconds. How do you know if the man/woman in the car has a gun and will use it? You dont. Ever. Therefore you have to treat every situation as what it could come to. They open the door and try to pull her out and one of them gets shot? That doesnt appeal to me. I would much rather taser her than risk it.


Pull her out of the car??

1 out of every 50 blacks in FL now have HIV. that bitch would have been scratching and bucking, we know that. Why risk a disease by taking the extra chance? Secondly, she probably would have been hurt worse had they tried to physically remove her from the car.


Let her finsh her phone call?? LOL, you have to be kidding me.
 
curling said:
ok then fire it in the grass. Just the gun shot along would have made her come outside without using the tazor.

:rolleyes:

Dude........every officer has to write a written report for firing a weapon and doing something that stupid would get you fired.
 
Deterass said:
:rolleyes:

Dude........every officer has to write a written report for firing a weapon and doing something that stupid would get you fired.



Correct. You just lost your job for such idiocy.
 
Why are people so quick on knowing how a cop should do his/her job?

What other occupations in this country are average joe citizens proudly claiming to be experts at?

Why even have police academy's if obviously everyone in the public knows how a cop should do his/her job. Must be a damn simple job i guess.

Armchair commandos -- it's a national crisis.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
i dont see how that has anything to do with bush, though. iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and bush invaded. the indonesians had everything to do with the bali bombing, and australia just gave them a billion dollars in tsunami aid.

i really dont see your point.

So you think a boycott is an appropriate response to an act of war upon your own citizenry? Afghanistan did attack us, and Saddam would have if he could. Immediately after that Qaddafi went to the negotiating table. Fair warning to the rest, if you wish to play our game, welcome to the pro tour.

Iraq (or better, Saddam's Regime) was the first and hopefully not the last victim of a policy that will help ensure our way of life remains through the 21st Century. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but I'd like you to note, just once, any quote where Bush said it did.

Australia could take Indonesia by forces led by Steve Irwin. But they bring none of that ability to bear in discussion with them. Paper Tiger is what Jakarta thinks of Australia.
 
redguru said:
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but I'd like you to note, just once, any quote where Bush said it did.


While I agreee with your thoughts, this one was a bad idea.
 
The biggest lol of this thread is the fact the goldenshower actually blamed this event on George Bush...fucking twit
 
Guvna said:
While I agreee with your thoughts, this one was a bad idea.


Bush always claimed that Hussein had a relationship with Al-Quaeda, but never said Iraq was responsible for 9/11.
 
curling said:
Why the rolley eyes? Do you think I want to make squat money to do a job that everybody hate you for.


You are just against cops for being against them. You have no real reason for it. It is people like you that propagate their bad name, just for the sake of it.

BTW, "chased" any of them lately?:rolleyes:


Shoot into the ground?? LOL right. But of course, anything the cops do will be wrong. They should try to talk down people that try to assault them. :rolleyes:
 
Guvna said:
You are just against cops for being against them. You have no real reason for it. It is people like you that propagate their bad name, just for the sake of it.

Really what about my wife being wrongfully accused for starting a fire in our house for instance? That is enough to piss anyone off. I mean first we are all freaked out that someone almost killed us and then cops say she did it that is just plain insulting.

BTW, "chased" any of them lately?:rolleyes:

Na not lately.


Shoot into the ground?? LOL right. But of course, anything the cops do will be wrong. They should try to talk down people that try to assault them. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't have thought that was wrong at all. I really don't think it was real wrong to use the tazor other than he should have tried longer to get her out of the car before resorting to actually firing. I mean aren't cops suppose to fire a warning shot in some instances?
 
curling said:
I wouldn't have thought that was wrong at all. I really don't think it was real wrong to use the tazor other than he should have tried longer to get her out of the car before resorting to actually firing. I mean aren't cops suppose to fire a warning shot in some instances?

The Use of Deadly Force only has one use.
 
curling said:
Really what about my wife being wrongfully accused for starting a fire in our house for instance? That is enough to piss anyone off. I mean first we are all freaked out that someone almost killed us and then cops say she did it that is just plain insulting.

Yes it is. I am also sure that would piss me off. But most of the time it IS a family member or someone close. They have to start there and eliminate the statistically higher chances first. That is them doing their job.
 
musclemuscle said:
Ok...so now if we do not obey an "officers" command we get stunned...that is rediculous! This country is becoming more and more like Nazi Germany and less like America.

She was asked so many times by the officers to get out of the car and she refused to do so.
She was pulled over by the officers and been asked to step out but she's still on the cellphone like nobody's business.

What can the officers possibly do to make her step out of the vehicle? She literally didn't care about the situation and she got what she deserved. That's just plain stupidity.
 
Gambino said:
The biggest lol of this thread is the fact the goldenshower actually blamed this event on George Bush...fucking twit
i think you should go back and reread the thread, gambino...though i get the impression that both your reading comprehension and your thinking ability are rather lacking

redguru said:
So you think a boycott is an appropriate response to an act of war upon your own citizenry? Afghanistan did attack us, and Saddam would have if he could. Immediately after that Qaddafi went to the negotiating table. Fair warning to the rest, if you wish to play our game, welcome to the pro tour.
well yes, a boycot from tourists but a helping hand by government (as was done) would be fairly appropriate, and conductinve to change over there.

no 'act of war' was committed. what happened was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. i see that lots of you yanks, freshly brainwashed by bush et al, have trouble separating small groups of citizentry from the remainder of the country.

a boycott by tourists and subsequent economic impact on tourism in indonesia would highlight the value of australian opinion economically to indonesians, whilst directed aid from government would not only show australian goodwill, but constructively change the way things happen over there in regard to australians.

if indonesians do not take australian safety seriously then they lose out competitively to other tourist destinations that can. its kind of obvious

redguru said:
Iraq (or better, Saddam's Regime) was the first and hopefully not the last victim of a policy that will help ensure our way of life remains through the 21st Century. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but I'd like you to note, just once, any quote where Bush said it did.
so then, o great and knowledgable redguru, why are you in iraq, exactly?

redguru said:
Australia could take Indonesia by forces led by Steve Irwin. But they bring none of that ability to bear in discussion with them. Paper Tiger is what Jakarta thinks of Australia.
more like polymer tiger. australian dollars arent printed on paper anymore :)

the great thing about the australian defense force is that it is exactly that: a DEFENCE force. we spent our money focusing on how to keep invaders out of australia. kind of a nice idea isnt it?

its kind of at odds with the american military, which has been a tad invasionary lately :)

high horse. you. off it. cheers.
 
ziggyziggy said:
To each their own. The US is definately getting more conservative, and here, police are the second most trusted institution, just after the military. The liberal media, by contrast, ranks near the bottom.

The woman in this case, swung at the officer on the other side of the vehicle. This is a felony. Use of nonlethal force in such a case is justified. I personally don't care if she spat at them. She deserved what she got. I truely believe that people would break the law less, if the threat of an immediate ass whipping was in place, in addition to arrest and prosecution.

I have no sympaty for anyone, regardless of race, color or creed, that assaults, or attempts to assault police officers. The fact that you side with the criminal in this case shows me just how far off their rocker liberal leftisis, socialists, and neo-communists are the world over.

Like I said, fill the shoes of a police officer for a week and see if you feel the same. Even if you did have the ability to, your incessant whining, and lack of analytical ability would prevent it.

Zig

um, we have no proof that this women did indeed actually swing at the officer. All we have is the officer's word. (which isnt very much to go by if you ask me, since that officer was heavily biased against that woman)
So quit your yapping about the swinging.

Even if she did swing, its not like either of the 2 officers were in danger and had a need to use their taser on her.

Basically what you are trying to say is that "she deserved it" I can think of a whole lot of people who 'deserve' a taser blast as well but I dont think an officer should have a right to blast them, heck a lot of the people in our society who 'deserve' taser blasts havent even broken any laws, they are just dicks.
So your point sucks.

I think thats funny how you try to rip on GoldenDelicious' character while making your point. Real mature buddy.
 
Razorguns said:
Why are people so quick on knowing how a cop should do his/her job?

What other occupations in this country are average joe citizens proudly claiming to be experts at?

Why even have police academy's if obviously everyone in the public knows how a cop should do his/her job. Must be a damn simple job i guess.

Armchair commandos -- it's a national crisis.

This is hardly a question about advanced police techniques and textbook knowledge,
It is much more about the issue of liberty vs. control. (I do believe you can have both of these, to a degree)
This is more of an ethical question than anything else.

What you are saying is similar to saying "we shouldnt talk about whether or not cloning is ethical, because we are not expert scientists"


Another thing to add:
I dont think the police should have used their tazers period. They should have tried to pull her out of the car. Heck there were 2 of them. They could have waited for more cops to show up and then they would have had even more men.

A tazer is a shitty way to do the job. I'd be pissed if someone blasted me with electricity just to have their way with me. A real cop (not a wuss) would get in there and use their muscle to get me out of a car.
 
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GoldenDelicious said:
no 'act of war' was committed. what happened was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. i see that lots of you yanks, freshly brainwashed by bush et al, have trouble separating small groups of citizentry from the remainder of the country.

If a country allows its citizenry to go around committing these acts with a wink and a nod, then the government is complicit in these acts. That Australian girl got a much bigger sentence than the cleric who masterminded the Bali bombing. That says a lot for the courts in Jakarta and the government. No brainwashing about it, you see a scorpion near your camp, you squash it, you don't let it wander about hoping that it won't sting you in your sleep.
 
Golden your response to Ziggy's post was sad...he killed you. Just don't ever comment on this issue again, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. And if you do, you're pretty good at hiding it. You go off on too many tangents with your reasoning, and you don't focus on the issue...I would argue with you but people like you are too ignorant to admit they're wrong.

Whatever...........basically I just wanted to point out that u got pwned
 
SaturatedGoodness said:
Golden your response to Ziggy's post was sad...he killed you. Just don't ever comment on this issue again, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. And if you do, you're pretty good at hiding it. You go off on too many tangents with your reasoning, and you don't focus on the issue...I would argue with you but people like you are too ignorant to admit they're wrong.

Whatever...........basically I just wanted to point out that u got pwned

you are an idiot
 
evansteve said:
you are an idiot

Yeah, alright. You're the moron who would rather have the cops try to drag this fat potentialy dangerous bitch out of a car half the size of her ass rather than subdue her and not put themselves in danger. Whatever...each to his own
 
redguru said:
If a country allows its citizenry to go around committing these acts with a wink and a nod, then the government is complicit in these acts. That Australian girl got a much bigger sentence than the cleric who masterminded the Bali bombing. That says a lot for the courts in Jakarta and the government. No brainwashing about it, you see a scorpion near your camp, you squash it, you don't let it wander about hoping that it won't sting you in your sleep.
who are you to know what the indonesian government is doing? the indonesian government is seperate from their judiciary, just as in any civilized country. the indonesian government has acted appropriately, in my opinion - or do you want me to ignore the fact that there are many bombings throughout indonesia, which it has been actively trying (usuccessfully) to stop, and instead paint the indonesian government as the perpetrator of that crime, even while it tries to find and prosecute them?

is your mind really that small?

you sound like a complete fool lumping the indonesian government, judiciary and citizenry together. how obtuse do you want to be? "you see a scorpion near your camp you squash it"? my God. with people as stupid as yourself, its no wonder you had a ninny lead you into a quagmire halfway across the world.

i am angry at the indonesian judiciary for being so heavy handed towards schapelle corby, and am annoyed that a legal system exists that seems so prone to injustice, but i think the way to fixing the situation is through diplomacy, not antagonising a nieghboring country and trying to pressure them in such a way as to undermine their soverignity, as you seem to be insunuating.

fuck i still cant get over your scorpion comment. unbelievable.

saturatedinstupidness said:
Golden your response to Ziggy's post was sad...he killed you. Just don't ever comment on this issue again, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. And if you do, you're pretty good at hiding it. You go off on too many tangents with your reasoning, and you don't focus on the issue...I would argue with you but people like you are too ignorant to admit they're wrong.

Whatever...........basically I just wanted to point out that u got pwned
well you pointed it out fantastically, in a post fairly sizzling with acid commentary, penetrating insight and a truly outstanding understanding of the issue that has left me staggering in doscombobulation

...or maybe youre just an idiot.

lock in B, eddie
 
GoldenDelicious said:
well you pointed it out fantastically, in a post fairly sizzling with acid commentary, penetrating insight and a truly outstanding understanding of the issue that has left me staggering in doscombobulation

...or maybe youre just an idiot.

lock in B, eddie

Ah yes...when you have nothing to say about the issue, resort to personal attacks and changing the subject. An all-to-common tactic used by blowhards and armchair quarterbacks alike...

have a good evening
 
evansteve said:
We really have no proof that she actually did this. Or Her swing may have been her trying to slap the officer's hands away when he was trying to take her phone.

Not absurd at all to believe every time a cop approaches a vehicle while stading on the side of the road in traffic he is in danger.
She failed to comply with a lawful order when he told her to put down the phone. A little patience, courtesy and respect for the badge on her part would have saved her from being tased.
She was breaking the law by speeding and driving on a suspended license and her behavior when stopped was ridiculous.
If she had hit a person or child while breaking the people defending her actions and attacking the officer would probably be questioning why she wasn't taken off the street sooner.
Police are damned either way. In this case he was in right.
 
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