Up 20 lbs......so far.

[ZeroCool]

Shaved Ape....That is a very good post. I believe that you care about others as it show how you explained in your last post. I have been around AS for a long time. I also understand that my case is not that extream as many others feel the same way. But as we all know when it rains it poors. To much was happening at one time so I decided to stay at the gym and lift harder. I was just tired of being skinny. I am going to contiune training hard and thats all I can say for now. I appreciate all the advice you and others have given. It shows that this board rules.

 

[Dr.X]

Zero, I was 142 lbs when I was 20. It is unlikely that your metabolism will not allow you to gain muscle provided you eat enough and train hard enough. Yea it takes forever w/o juice but 7 years later I am 60 lbs heavier. NOW I'm considering anabolics. See the difference?

 

[GaryWary]

I would have to agree with your post. However I am about to turn 23 years old and weighed 15 lbs less then what I am supposed to. I decided to do gear because I was very unhappy with the way I looked. I was falling into depression because of it. I did not ever want to take my shirt off. I was never able to even help myself at times. When your self confidence is low there is not to much you can do about it. Training natural was not the answer. I fully understand that many of you have put your dues in and expect others to do the same. I feel that gear has helped me more then just have some size and muscles. I feel gear has helped me mentally and gear has given me the start I need. I may do another cycle but I know if I do that will be my last. I may not even do another cycle. I do not plan on being a bodybuilder in life. As a matter of fact I may not "make it in this lifestyle" Many of you can offer advice but how many of you were my size. My question to you Dr. X and Shaved Ape is have you ever been 134 lbs at the age of 21? I respect what you both are saying to me. I feel that to give advice at least consider where the other person is coming from before you make you decision. This is not a flame but a question. I have trained since I was in high school. I have been to the Doctor time and time again. At first I thought I had cancer. I was unable to gain weight. I feel like most of you have great knowledge about gear and know your shit. However you will never know where I am coming from. I could not take it anymore. People wanting to criticize me all the time for being skinny. This time I did this for my self. I appreciate you offering the advice. This is not a flame in any way but a mere confession of how I felt. If anything I know now that I have to eat more train harder and be a better person to keep what i have and possible gain weight naturally. This has inspired me to want to train harder and right with a healthy diet and that my friends is what I am going to continue to do. 1 cycle 2 at the max and that is it. I do not depend on gear to get me throught the day. I am not addicted like some of the people I see at the gym who beat their wives. I do not break my wallet to find gear. I did it for my self. I will keep what I have. If I start loosing I will eat better and train twice as hard to put it back on and then some..........

I went from 11 stone (154lbs0 to 13 stone (182lbs) in 2 years training natural.. I drunk 8 pints of milk a day plus ate fregular food.. I wouldn't sleep till I had eaten 4000kcals at least...

I got to 14 stone and 15.5inch arms natural.

You started too early..

A bit of hard work and you could have got naturally what you gained on juice.

Juice is for later. When you have a bit of training knowledge and experience.

 

[floridagrowin]

Was skinny too

Zerocool, when I was 20 years old I weighed about 120lbs. at 5'9". I was always skinny but not weak. I lifted weights through highschool and off and on thereafter. I always had a thin muscular look but I was way under weight. I'm sure like you I tried every weight gainer and bs supplement out there with little effect. But I never quit trying. It wasn't until I was about 32 when I was able to put on some weight and was up to about 140. I put on another 10 lbs over the next year while still being thin with using andro crap and other supps. I was almost 34 when I did my first cycle (dbol only lol). I've done two more real cycles since and am about 180lbs. with low bf. Guess my point is I know where you are coming from about the size issue but you cant let people make you feel weak or infearior. Weakness is in the mind. Getting bigger is not going to change everything for you. Get you mind right along the way. Listen to these guys on this board who have AS exsperience, they are trying to help you. What ever you do be safe and dont let the shit that life has to dump on you make your decisions for you. My 2cents

 

[ZeroCool]

Thanks for the advice guys. However I did what I did and there is not turning back from that. All I have now is to take the advice and help others that were is my situation. I will continually train and eat. A cycle of sauce is not the worst thing I have done in my life. But I do feel that I have learned alot from this experience thanks to you all.

 

[ragin']

that's what i call nice gains, brotherman. keep it up and give us another 6-7 week update.

 

[ZeroCool]

tHNAKS RAGIN...wILL DO.

 

[Tigerparks]

Nice gains ZeroCool. Keep it real.

Is this board the GREATEST or what??

 

[Nathan]

I weighed under 120lbs. when I was 19 I think at 5'11". Let me tell ya, THAT sucks a big hard cock. I worked hard for a few years and gained about 50lbs. naturally. I'm now 2 weeks into my first cycle. I still feel bad like I haven't waited long enough but I had had enough of being unhappy as well so I do hear ya. Anyway, good gains bro and I hope mine keep up so that I end up with gains like that (plus more...hehehe). I think you should have waited a bit longer as well but what's done is done. Just so long as you understand why it is that it is wise to wait I guess. Anyway, good luck!

 

[ZeroCool]

Thanks Nathan.....Good Luck on your cycle. For everybody that replied thanks for the motivation and the learning experience I had.........I hope all your cylces go as good as mine or better..
Later ZeroCool.