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megamania500
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Anyone notice that the fights in UFC are starting to be more of stand-up striking, rather than groundwork? Do you think that's because of the evolution of fighting styles starting to learn more about defending against groundfighters? Or do you think that the Powers-That-Be behind the UFC are pushing for more fighters of the stand-up game to add more excitement to the current fights to pull in interest with this new tv audience?
I'd say the latter. When the UFC started having weight classes and guys were more evenly matched (physically), many people didn't want to watch, including some who had previously been fans; because no one could appreciate the sometimes subtle nature of groundfighting.megamania500 said:
I could get excited watching one fighter try to maintain a guard while his opponent attempted to pass it, but to a lot of people, this would be boring.
A lot of people like watching standup.
I guess they want to attract more fans, but I think they shouldn't bring in guys who do 90% stand-up, like some of the newer fighters. An MMA fighter should be well-rounded, and I'm not seeing a lot of that, lately.
You can stomp or kick a downed opponent in Pride (you're right, not in the UFC). I can't remember the entire rule, but I think the guy has to be laying face up. Pridefc.com has the rules listed, I believe.Snarling Force said:
Good question about the gloves; I've never noticed.
From what I can tell, to be a striker attempting to defend against ground fighters will eventually prove futile.megamania500 said:
If your striking is top-notch, and you have great take down defense, you keep SOME groundfighters at bay while you wear them down with punches, but I think if one guy's ground game matches the level of another guy's standup, the first guy will win.
ass_face
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Snypr said:
I am not sure about this... Think about the current Champs:
Hughes ( Ground Fighter)
Franklin (Striker)
Lidell (Striker)
Orlovsky (Striker)
3 out of four are predominantly strikers... I think a striker, who has great ground defense and enough ju jitsu to survive defensively and occasionally submit a guy, is the superior fighter.
Guys are getting so good at defending the ground game and fights are becoming more stand up... Even the best fighters in Pride are standup guys... Silva, CroCop, Fedor. Not to say a submission expert will have no success, but it seems like the top echelon are strikers with great ground defense.
Djimbe
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TheOak01 said:
They shouldnt give wins for bleeding . I mean , you can CHOKE out , you can get KNOCKED out ... why cant you just Bleed out ? Just because a guy is a Bleeder dosent mean that he cant slap a RNC on a guy before hes out of AB- ! They should at LEAST go to the Scorecards or SOMETHING !
Djimbe
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megamania500 said:
Neither !
It was NEVER all that hard to Defend . Look at Royce/Kimo ! Kimo was a PURE SCRUB back then , but he corner told him to REFUSE tro go down , and he sent Royce to thew Hospital .
Ppl didnt know what they were getting into back then , and the system made a HUGE Impact because ppl were TOTALLY Ignorant of it . Defending against Takedowns and subs isnt as hard as it is to Apply them . Folks used to just never see them coming !
Djimbe
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Yarg! said:
Oh , man ! Have you seen a Pic of me ? THere isnt a KIND of Animal I wont eat ! YOu have to come to Big Wong (yeah , funny name) on Mott Street though - Best Chinese in the CITY ! THe Spicy Shrimp is the JOINT , man ! THeir Congee is to die for , as is their Mei Fun !
Djimbe
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Kane Fan said:
Well , firstly theyre not "Iron" anymore theyre Steel now - turns out the Excess Iron can poison/OD your Bloodstream and make you sick ... There Canvas Bags filled with everything from Rice>MungBeans>Sand>Stones>SteelShot>SteelBallBearings the movement of the material inside the bag makes for absorbing the shock , and the level of the Filler makes for the Conditioning Level . I personally never go past Steel Shot on any Bodypart except my shins and Forearms .
Fully Filled :
http://www.wle.com/products/tigerBags.html
http://www.wle.com//store/ironskills.html
Do-It-Yourself :
http://www.wle.com//products/m0811.html
http://www.wle.com//products/m0813.html
the First you can Tie to a Wooden Dummy to toughen the Impact beyond the level of Wood , the second can be used alone as a Wallbag for striking at different Levels .
I'm not against strikers(I'm one), but I just keep seeing great standup guys neutralized by high-level groud fighters.ass_face said:
Hughes has done it to some skilled boxers.
Franklin, I can't comment on until I've seen more of his fights(I only saw him fight Shamrock).
Liddell's standup was useless against Couture's takedowns in the first fight(Did you see the rematch? I didn't see it)
Arlovski has GREAT hands, but hasn't faced any takedown experts.
Silva definitely proves your point. He's a killer with strikes.(but I don't remember if he's faced any world class ground guys)
CroCop(another of my favorite strikers) eventually got taken down and submitted by Minotauro(world class groundfighter)
Fedor has more than just strikes.
Tito's hands were neutralized by Randy's takedowns.
Overall, I think we agree about great hands plus great takedown defense being a good thing. It's just the mechanics of it that always leaves a standup fighter vulnerable, if the ground guy is good enough.
Djimbe
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Kane Fan said:
Its not really about the SURFACE ....
It toughens the BONES , Ligaments and Tendons moreso than the Skin . the opnly thing that really Toughens the Skin is when you Scrape the bag from side to Side , and get a "Sandpaper" kind of action off of the Canvas . Oh itl happen , especially if you Train when youre Tired , you get Sloppy after a while , but the Skin is of Secondary Concern .
Really , its all about building up Bone and Muscular Density around the Joints and edges of the Bones . Over time they Calcify and thicken , and this makes it POSSIBLE for you to hit HARDER with the same arm without damaging it . At the same time , you develop a better Body Unity and Power .
Djimbe
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Yarg! said:
Id take San Shous Kicking Game over Muay THai's . Watch the San Shou Vs Muay Thai series - it and the Throws are what keeps giving the Chinese the Advantage over the Thais . Most ppl presuime its JUST the Kuaijiao , but the kicks are even MORE Influential in the deciding of the Matches , wespecially from the Taiji , ansd Xingyi practitioners amongst the Chinese .
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Djimbe said:
A good example is Quinto Jackson vs. Murillo Bustamante. Quinton carried him across the ring to bring him down near Team Oyama's corner.
-BRR
Big Rick Rock
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Rashad took it to him! He looked pretty good on his feet, he could have been a little more agressive and followed up on some good shots.
His take down defense looked a little sloppy at times but it worked. The cross face was there all day and instead he opted to reach cross the guy's back instead of ripping his nose off with a forearm.
I did see Rashad get a little stupid and punch Whitehead on the elbows and on top of the head... With tiny 4oz gloves that is a great way to injure your own hand. Specially a guy his size throwing bombs, you can do some serious damage to your own hands by hitting a guy on those body parts.
Pretty good fight though.
-BRR
His take down defense looked a little sloppy at times but it worked. The cross face was there all day and instead he opted to reach cross the guy's back instead of ripping his nose off with a forearm.
I did see Rashad get a little stupid and punch Whitehead on the elbows and on top of the head... With tiny 4oz gloves that is a great way to injure your own hand. Specially a guy his size throwing bombs, you can do some serious damage to your own hands by hitting a guy on those body parts.
Pretty good fight though.
-BRR
Again, they biased the before fight clips to make rashad look like the underdog. EVERY fight so far, the person they hype up loses. They are goinig for the underdog effect. I was watching and as soon as they showed rashad all scared, and Mike being hyped up, I knew that rashad was going to win no question. Watch next week, its flawless.
Anyway, mike just had no game plan. He was scared to mix it up with rashad and I have no idea why he just sat there covering his head. He could have pushed rashad around with about 60lbs extra. I loved seeing matts face all disappointed. I agree that you gotta fuckin go for it man. They are on national TV and fighting like they are in a basement screwing around.
Anyway, mike just had no game plan. He was scared to mix it up with rashad and I have no idea why he just sat there covering his head. He could have pushed rashad around with about 60lbs extra. I loved seeing matts face all disappointed. I agree that you gotta fuckin go for it man. They are on national TV and fighting like they are in a basement screwing around.
Djimbe
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I just watched that mess on Tivo . Mike wasnt weven in the building , what happened to that guy that was standing about yelling about Mental Toughness and Treadmills and stuff ? He didnt even TRY .
Rashad seems to put out just a LITTLE more Evffort than his Opponent , dosent he ? Ill bet that that makes him Pay one day ... but hey , right now hes 9-0 , and thats GOT to be KILLING Hughes ! All his "Soldiers" being beaten by the Slackers , Geeks , and Freaks !
Rashad seems to put out just a LITTLE more Evffort than his Opponent , dosent he ? Ill bet that that makes him Pay one day ... but hey , right now hes 9-0 , and thats GOT to be KILLING Hughes ! All his "Soldiers" being beaten by the Slackers , Geeks , and Freaks !
ass_face
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Djimbe said:
I think Rashad is highly underestimated... his sprawl is excellent and his stand up is very good. The guy never seems to get hit. I thought his stand up was way better tham Mike's. I have no idea what Dana was talking about... Mike's standup sucked. I think Rashad has a style that lends itself to underestimation. He counterpunches, he defends takedowns and works off the opponnents mistakes on offense. He doesn't seem to initiate which may be why people take him lightly.
1392477
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I really hope thay are learning from their mistakes when they are preparing for TUF 3.
For all of the hype about how great Mike was he didn't decide to show up for the fight. I was hoping that the verbal lashing that Matt gave him before round 3 would motivate him but he had already mentally checked out in the first round. He never pushed the action and would just cover up when Rashad would throw some lame punches. It's hard to believe that he trains at the Militech camp - those guys are mostly warriors - I'm sure he is an embarrasment to the school.
I personally would like to see more training footage and less of them sitting around the house.
For all of the hype about how great Mike was he didn't decide to show up for the fight. I was hoping that the verbal lashing that Matt gave him before round 3 would motivate him but he had already mentally checked out in the first round. He never pushed the action and would just cover up when Rashad would throw some lame punches. It's hard to believe that he trains at the Militech camp - those guys are mostly warriors - I'm sure he is an embarrasment to the school.
I personally would like to see more training footage and less of them sitting around the house.
megamania500
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I wanted Rashad to win just to watch Matt Hughes get pissed. Then both Matt and Dana White can't even fucking admit that Rashad was the better fighter. They both talked like Mike "beat himself". Buncha bullshit. Dana White was like, "I was shocked at Mike's gameplan!...I KNOW Mike has better stand-up than Rashad...Mike just choked. He choked!"
And Matt was like, "(Mike) lost the will to fight...just giving up. Not even trying!"
Jeezzuss!
Mike tried to stand up with Rashad. Rashad got the better of him. Mike then tried grappling. He ended up getting pounded worse than when he was standing. The guy basically got an ass-beating.
On standup, Rashads timing was much better; the strikes he initiated would land. But when Mike attempted a punch, Rashad would either create enough distance, or block and counter it. Often, when Mike was about to throw a punch, Rashad would telegraph it and create distance so Mike wouldn't even throw the punch. Mikes corner was telling him to throw punches, but he knew that he would either just hit air, or get countered.
Then when it went to the ground it always ended up with Mike in a position to where he was taking multiple strikes.
but it did look like Rashad hurt his hand during that last flurry. My suspicians were confirmed when during the previews for next week show Rashad with a sling on his arm.
Mike didn't "beat himself" like the show is going to try and make us think. One man was a better fighter than the other, simple as that.
And Matt was like, "(Mike) lost the will to fight...just giving up. Not even trying!"
Jeezzuss!
Mike tried to stand up with Rashad. Rashad got the better of him. Mike then tried grappling. He ended up getting pounded worse than when he was standing. The guy basically got an ass-beating.
On standup, Rashads timing was much better; the strikes he initiated would land. But when Mike attempted a punch, Rashad would either create enough distance, or block and counter it. Often, when Mike was about to throw a punch, Rashad would telegraph it and create distance so Mike wouldn't even throw the punch. Mikes corner was telling him to throw punches, but he knew that he would either just hit air, or get countered.
Then when it went to the ground it always ended up with Mike in a position to where he was taking multiple strikes.
but it did look like Rashad hurt his hand during that last flurry. My suspicians were confirmed when during the previews for next week show Rashad with a sling on his arm.
Mike didn't "beat himself" like the show is going to try and make us think. One man was a better fighter than the other, simple as that.
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megamania500 said:
Like I posted earlier, Rashad got a little stupid and hit Whitehead on the elbows and on top of the head. That is a great way to injure your own hands.
-BRR
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Saw the fight last night. Mike looked like a winded bloated sack of yogurt ass blubbering around the ring. He just kind of stood there I was shocked. My impression of him before the fight was one of a big meat tank that was going to be tough in the ring. Like a big balding bull headed beefstick. How wrong I was. He was a disgrace and just kind of looked like a tired log.
ass_face said:
I agree 100%
I think I brought that up in this thread but it may have been on another forum I mentioned it
especially with reguard to the heavyweights
Matt is training everyone like he is training Joe, well Joe did wrestling I believe in highschool so he's used to a high level of conditioning
everyone else isn't going to be able to do that
Matt just, isn't getting that
no matter how many HeavyWeight Bouts he drops he won't figure it out it seems
First post here coming over from bb.com. Thought I'd make the first in the MMA threads. I actually see some familiar faces....what's up, KaneFan.
Seth wins the Heavyweight by decisions. Joe dominates all the welters. My 2 cents. Rock-n-Roll.
Seth wins the Heavyweight by decisions. Joe dominates all the welters. My 2 cents. Rock-n-Roll.
Your shoes gave it away, lol. I rolled with Tom Murphy today, I'll be rolling with him tomorrow too. He's got great ground skills, besides the 20 lb difference I couldn't get what I wanted. He's in town this weekend, he'll be going back to Vermont and training with David Loiseau afterwards. Rock-n-Roll.Kane Fan said:
MikeMartial
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Caught the re-run last night of Monday's episode.
Y'know, sitting on my couch at home, I get frustrated watching Rashad. He seems to have so much potential, but just doesn't listen to his corner.
I'm not even going to comment on the other guy. I'm surprised Matt didn't beat his ass right then and there.
Y'know, sitting on my couch at home, I get frustrated watching Rashad. He seems to have so much potential, but just doesn't listen to his corner.
I'm not even going to comment on the other guy. I'm surprised Matt didn't beat his ass right then and there.
ass_face
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MikeMartial said:
Rashad reminds me of a Chris Byrd type fighter. He waits for his opponent to be offensive then he counters, negates it and offers his offense. In the first fight, Tom did nothing... which made Rashad (a counter fighter) have little to work with. I think Rashad can rack up a lot of wins like this, but it is not an exciting style to watch.
Djimbe
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well , the guy is at the VERY bottom of a HUGE weight class ... I mean , he HAS to fight like he does or get murdered ... When youre giving up 50 lbs or so to a guy its take what you get , not jump at every percieved Opportunity . You HAVE to wait for the Counters or youll get Raped by anyone with a MILDLY decptive game .
And as smart as his coach is , I dont think he has had to Face such circumstances , so what his Corner sees as an opportunity with a 5 lb weight variant can be a TRAP with a 50 lb one .
And as smart as his coach is , I dont think he has had to Face such circumstances , so what his Corner sees as an opportunity with a 5 lb weight variant can be a TRAP with a 50 lb one .
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Big Rick Rock
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Luke took it... Again!
I see him winning in the finals, KO in the second round.
-BRR
I see him winning in the finals, KO in the second round.
-BRR
MikeMartial
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THAT was a good fight. Evenly matched, and both guys gave it all.
I was impressed with Luke when he took the right hand from Sam; I thought for sure he was done for.
I'll agree with BRR, Luke for the Welterweight win.
I was impressed with Luke when he took the right hand from Sam; I thought for sure he was done for.
I'll agree with BRR, Luke for the Welterweight win.
megamania500
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That was an awsome fight. But I see Joe taking it, although I would like to see Luke win. The reason I think Joe will win is because Sam came close to submitting Luke, and according to the show, Joe is probably the most adept at the ground game. So if sam came as close to submitting Luke as he did, Joe might have the skills to do it successfully. Plus he's seen Luke fight twice now, and Luke has seen Joe fight just once.
Helluva fight, tho. Luke proved that he has dangerous standup, and pretty slippery on the ground.
The whole episode was good, with seeing who was going to be paired with who. I hope the cut doesn't disqualify that other dude from fighting, since he really went for it in his last fight. But I don't see him beating Joe. And since we already seen Joe defeat the alternate they brought in, I'd rather see him fight someone else.
Helluva fight, tho. Luke proved that he has dangerous standup, and pretty slippery on the ground.
The whole episode was good, with seeing who was going to be paired with who. I hope the cut doesn't disqualify that other dude from fighting, since he really went for it in his last fight. But I don't see him beating Joe. And since we already seen Joe defeat the alternate they brought in, I'd rather see him fight someone else.
I have to agree with everything you said, megaman. Like I said before....in light of last night's little brawl, Luke has definitely proven himself among the best there. Though, I would have liked to seen what would have happened if Sammy was allowed to continue the armbar. In Pride FC, if someone has a lock set in when the round expires (such as an armbar, rear-naked, ankle lock, etc.) the fight continues until the other person taps out or gets out of the lock.megamania500 said:
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Snarling Force
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I've too am super impressed with Luke "Uni-brow" Cummo. You certainly cannot judge a book by its cover and he is a perfect example of this. I'm looking forward to the finals and especially Nov 5th when UF2 finale happens with Diaz Vs Sanchez. I think that is going to be a good fight.
MikeMartial
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That should be an excellent match on Nov 5th. I'll take Diego on that one, hands down.
Unfourtunately, I'm doing medical stand-by at a local MMA match that night. I'll have to catch the rerun.
Unfourtunately, I'm doing medical stand-by at a local MMA match that night. I'll have to catch the rerun.
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1392477 said:
I thinks Luke's ground game is pretty decent... After two fights, I haven't really seen either guy put Luke in trouble on the ground... He has gone to the ground both fights and never got submitted or pounded. He did make a mistake and gave up his back on the first fight, his BJJ coaches looked at it closely and are working with him on it...
I still say. Luke to win it in the second round by KO.
-BRR
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Kane Fan said:
I think it looked worse than it really was.
-BRR
megamania500
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They must be planning on having 3 fights on Monday, should be good. But to squeeze 3 fights in an hour, with commercials an all, must mean that they all aren't going to go the whole 3 rounds.
I've been setting the VCR to tape TUF, but I've only had time to watch bits. How did Rashad end up fighting again? I thought once you fought and won, you didn't have to fight again until everyone in your weight has had a fight . Maybe I'm confusing it with Contender.
So if it's not the case, in theory a guy might have to fight over and over because he gets challenged, and another fighter might only have to fight once, late in the show?
So if it's not the case, in theory a guy might have to fight over and over because he gets challenged, and another fighter might only have to fight once, late in the show?
I'm not sure what you're saying.Kane Fan said:
Originally, I was speaking about the one-dimensional approach taken by many of the newer fighters I've seen. If a guy has 8 or 9 fights under his belt and all he does is one thing, that shows a lack of appreciation for the versatility of MMA.
That being said, guys who have been labeled only as strikers tend to throw punches until their opponent is knocked out or down (then GnP'd).
The same fighter eventually faces a former wrestler or practicioner of some other ground-based sport, who is willing to eat a few punches in order to take the guy's legs out.
A strike specialist vs a ground specialist shows exactly that.
But if the striker has good enough takedown defense to stop a veteran wrestler, then he's really not a one-dimensional standup fighter, since takedown defense isn't a part of boxing.
I was not comparing that type of guy.
megamania500
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Every week the two teams have a team challenge, and the team that wins gets to choose who fights who from each team. Yeah, Rashad fought twice so far, and so did Luke.
MikeMartial
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I expected that fight to go a bit differently. Despite what Dana and Matt think, I'm still not impressed with Rashad. He does pull some pretty fast moves at times, but his strategy seems to be to smother his opponents. It seems to work, it's just not very impressive, IMO.
And didn't Jardine say his strength was his ground game? Maybe he left it in his locker.
And didn't Jardine say his strength was his ground game? Maybe he left it in his locker.
Big Rick Rock
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Rashad takes it again...
Not great, but just a step better than the 3 guys he has fought.... Thats all you need in the competition, slow and steady wins the race. He has fought three fights and hasn't taken in any major damage. Does just enough to get a win...
-BRR
Not great, but just a step better than the 3 guys he has fought.... Thats all you need in the competition, slow and steady wins the race. He has fought three fights and hasn't taken in any major damage. Does just enough to get a win...
-BRR
ass_face
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MikeMartial said:
I think that no matter who Rashad fights, this is the way it is going to be. The guy is a good fighter. Anyone who is undefeated in his MMA experience and beats the top two favorites in the show is pretty damn good. I am impressed with his chemeleon qualities.
He seems to assess his opponent, then negate their game and adapts to win. It isn't pretty, but this is a guy that in the boxing world guys avoid like the plague. Fortunately in MMA, you can't duck fighters.
MikeMartial
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Well, I wasn't surprised Joe won, but I wonder why he tried to stand up with him even in the first place? Weird. Fast armbar----I'm alwasy impressed by a submission win.
As much as I like Luke, my money is on Joe to take it.
I have NO idea WTF Seth decided to do.....why on earth was he not listening to Rich?!?!? His damn cauliflower ears must have been swollen shut. Had he stuck to what he did in the first round, I'm sure he would have won. I was actually hoping to see some fast kicks like his first fight.
Kudos to Brad, he gave it all. That guy has heart, no question. I think Rashad will clean him up quickly, though.
As much as I like Luke, my money is on Joe to take it.
I have NO idea WTF Seth decided to do.....why on earth was he not listening to Rich?!?!? His damn cauliflower ears must have been swollen shut. Had he stuck to what he did in the first round, I'm sure he would have won. I was actually hoping to see some fast kicks like his first fight.
Kudos to Brad, he gave it all. That guy has heart, no question. I think Rashad will clean him up quickly, though.
megamania500
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Man, that Jason puffs up fast, one shot to the eye and it was almost swollen shut in about 1/2 second.
I see rashad and joe taking it, too. And joe said that he wasnt going to stand with luke for even a second.
its gonna suck to not have tuf to watch every week. Hopefully there will be more than the 3 fights on saturday; like the coverage with the fighters that didn't make it to the finals that will fight each other.
My cable company DIDN"T even charge me for the last PPV UFC I ordered! HEHE $34.95 back into my pocket. I hope the same for the next ufc
I see rashad and joe taking it, too. And joe said that he wasnt going to stand with luke for even a second.
its gonna suck to not have tuf to watch every week. Hopefully there will be more than the 3 fights on saturday; like the coverage with the fighters that didn't make it to the finals that will fight each other.
My cable company DIDN"T even charge me for the last PPV UFC I ordered! HEHE $34.95 back into my pocket. I hope the same for the next ufc
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Yeah, I'm shocked Seth didn't stick to his standup... he was dominating in that aspect. Rich asked him after one of the rounds why he didn't keep it standing up and the dude just looked at him with a blank stare... and how about his ear after the match? Fucking shit that was nasty.
Snarling Force
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Wow holy shit I didn't realize episode 12 has already aired!??! I accidentally read your guys posts. Whoops! Anyways, here are episodes 10 and 11 to bring you all up to speed. I'm going to have to go and hunt down episode 12 to bring me current before Friday nights final.
Episode 10
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=56a6c1fd-3f51-4fcd-ab53-ee692d364678
Episode 11
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=3cd8cb76-301c-4a44-8ba5-62f84c17eadc
Episode 10
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=56a6c1fd-3f51-4fcd-ab53-ee692d364678
Episode 11
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=3cd8cb76-301c-4a44-8ba5-62f84c17eadc
Snarling Force
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Yep. Just watched Tuesday nights episode which would be episode 12. I'm uploading it now and will post the link shortly.
Snarling Force
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Episode 12 for you bros...
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=76787730-39dc-40a6-8abe-af6d95a08e34
That will bring you up and current in the series in time for Saturday night's finale in Las Vegas.
http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Download.aspx?id=76787730-39dc-40a6-8abe-af6d95a08e34
That will bring you up and current in the series in time for Saturday night's finale in Las Vegas.
MikeMartial
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Awesome, thanks for posting the episodes!!! 
MikeMartial
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ass_face said:
No doubt. Hey, was it me, or did I see two different commercials for the fights on the 19th? I saw one where Hughes fights Parysian, and another where Hughes fights someone else? Did Parysian bail and there's a replacement? Or am I totally on glue?
ass_face
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MikeMartial said:
I think Parisyan dropped out and Riggs is taking his place. Joe is from Phoenix and he is a tough mother fucker. He used to fight at 265 believe it or not... He likess to strike and he is strong. He made a retard mistake against Salaverry and fell right into a triangle choke... prior to that he was mauling Salaverry all over the ring.
MikeMartial
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Damn! I've always been a fan of Parisyan's. I like the fact he was able to bring judo into the MMA arena. Sounds like he torn a muscle, probably a hamstring.
I think I have a clip of Riggs somewhere in this mess of a hard drive; I'll have to dig it up. He does look like a bad ass mofo, going from what I read on ufc.tv.
Well, there's no question about digital cable now. GSP is fighting. I cannot miss my fav welterweight canuck fighting!
I think I have a clip of Riggs somewhere in this mess of a hard drive; I'll have to dig it up. He does look like a bad ass mofo, going from what I read on ufc.tv.
Well, there's no question about digital cable now. GSP is fighting. I cannot miss my fav welterweight canuck fighting!
Djimbe
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IMO Luke got friggin ROBBED . HAVING a position is not the same as DOING SOMETHING with one . Luke was still whuppin his ass from so-called "Inferior" positions the WHOLE fight . Its like the deck is stacked against strikers , because , well , they basically give credit for EVERY attempt at a sub , and every Posure gain , but they dont take them back for escaping the hold , or getting out of the POSITION . This is the only fight of the evening that would DEFINATELY have gone the other way if they would have been fighting till one guy was Unconscious . I think that Lukes BJJ game is VERY Defe nsive , but at the same time it was VERY Deep . Every time Joe went for the Knees he had his foot laced behind the other Ankle for defense ,
IMO that fight just wasn t Finished . Joe took the first , they tied the secnd , and Luke OBVIOUSLY tok the third ...
But if you can move the other guy around you get extra credit appearantly ... even if youre just moving him into new Positions to whup you from .
oh , and while Im talking abut Luke - did anyone see the kids MOM ? How did ANYON E as Ugly as that Cro-Mag looking kid come out of a woman that HAWT ??? TALK about your MILFS !!!
IMO that fight just wasn t Finished . Joe took the first , they tied the secnd , and Luke OBVIOUSLY tok the third ...
But if you can move the other guy around you get extra credit appearantly ... even if youre just moving him into new Positions to whup you from .
oh , and while Im talking abut Luke - did anyone see the kids MOM ? How did ANYON E as Ugly as that Cro-Mag looking kid come out of a woman that HAWT ??? TALK about your MILFS !!!
Snarling Force
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Just got done watching the fights as I'm on the west coast. I was amazed by Luke but when Dana said this was just like Forrest Vs Bonner fight, I expected him to offer Luke a contract as well. I was let down he didn't give one to Luke because he totally deserved it. Rashad deserved to win I thought. Brad looked pretty sloppy out there but he had a lot of heart even after getting knocked down 2 times. And what is with Dana White continuing to refer to Brad as a 7 footer? There is a 5 inch difference between 6'7" and 7' which is considerable IMO. He also gained 10 pounds during the fight. Kind of funny how they like to talk shit up. The Sanchez fight though had me jumping out of my chair I was so happy Diego shut up that big mouth Diaz and taught him a lesson. And what was that comment Diaz said after the fight when he said Diego had some extra help? WTF? Overall a very entertaining 3 hours.
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Djimbe said:
There were two girls in the seats on Luke's side. Which one are you refering to?
-BRR
DieselGunz
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So Rashad and Joe won?
MikeMartial
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Damn I wish I hadn't missed it. I pretty much had figured who'd win, I was really more interested in the Diego/Sanchez fight. Any idea on if a re-run is happening?
Speaking of fights, though....I did ringside medical standby at a local MMA/MT fight last night.
This one fighter came way the hell from Holland, right outa Ramon Dekkers camp. The kid wasn't much to look at, 6'0 and 150 pounds, but GODAMN I have never seen anyone throw knees like this string bean. Jumping knees, flying knees, it was crazy. He hit his opponent so fast and hard with one knee, dropped him to the mat, and the poor bastard had a seizure.
Speaking of fights, though....I did ringside medical standby at a local MMA/MT fight last night.
This one fighter came way the hell from Holland, right outa Ramon Dekkers camp. The kid wasn't much to look at, 6'0 and 150 pounds, but GODAMN I have never seen anyone throw knees like this string bean. Jumping knees, flying knees, it was crazy. He hit his opponent so fast and hard with one knee, dropped him to the mat, and the poor bastard had a seizure.
Djimbe said:
Yeah, she looked hot, but then again we didn't get to see the whole package. And just remember, clothes hide alot, though her face looked nice and her chest was flaring. I wasn't sure if that was his mom or his GF. Are you sure that was his mom? Then again it might've been his GF's mom.
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