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ttlpkg....IT depression is real....

I think one of you guys above said this - but the modern tech person will have an understadning of business as well as how to do tech stuff.

The days of being just a tech guy are coming to an end. A corporation will be looking forpeople who ADD value, and a tech guy who understands business (particularly the role of tech in the company's business) is worth something to the company.

A tech guy who does only tech is a necessary evil. There's the difference.

Strongchick, I know dozens of CCIE's. Most of them are OK, a few are exceptional, and a few are shit. It happens. I myself am a CCNP and I have passed teh CCNP written. I also have a contract to write a book on the subject. I know my Cisco shit. And I am thrilled to be out of the field.
 
Drew Carey said:
You guys are making me scared! I just got laid off from my job. I was a manger at a trucking company (a fortune 300 company) for close to 10 years. I have enough money and unemployment checks coming in to support my ass for a year while I go back to the local university. I'm signed up for a bunch Cisco related classes and plan on taking the test next December or so. Now you guys are making me question my decision.

Well, I think if there's any lesson to be learned out of this thread, it's to diversify your skill set so that you can not only do Cisco work, but a variety of other things too.

It's hard to pursue multiple paths at the same time, if it's possible at all. I know the Cisco certs require a lot of time. Hopefully, you can get an entry-level position somewhere after you're done with classes, and work your way up.

Who knows, by next December, the IT environment could (and probably will) be completely different.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I think one of you guys above said this - but the modern tech person will have an understadning of business as well as how to do tech stuff.

The days of being just a tech guy are coming to an end. A corporation will be looking forpeople who ADD value, and a tech guy who understands business (particularly the role of tech in the company's business) is worth something to the company.

A tech guy who does only tech is a necessary evil. There's the difference.

Strongchick, I know dozens of CCIE's. Most of them are OK, a few are exceptional, and a few are shit. It happens. I myself am a CCNP and I have passed teh CCNP written. I also have a contract to write a book on the subject. I know my Cisco shit. And I am thrilled to be out of the field.

And this is why I'm pursuing my MIS degree instead of straight CS. I think there's a lot of value to the business knowledge in the IT world.

Matt, what drove you out of the field?
 
strongchick said:

I'm talking about IT people with intense degrees and Cisco certs -- Cisco certs...that can't get jobs.

With everyone searching jobs right now, people just need to find ways to make themselves more marketable.

If you're talking CCNA for a cisco cert - good luck. They mean as much as McDonald's napkins. High schools offer Cisco Academy now as a course - ending in either a CCNA or CCNP.

Take a look into things like SANS GIAC or the SSCP / CISSP for certifications that matter. If you're a router / switch monkey and out of work - well, get back into either system administration, programing, or database work.

If you know anything about SAP, PeopleSoft, or ERD in general - there are quite a few jobs still hiring.
 
natasan said:


With everyone searching jobs right now, people just need to find ways to make themselves more marketable.

If you're talking CCNA for a cisco cert - good luck. They mean as much as McDonald's napkins. High schools offer Cisco Academy now as a course - ending in either a CCNA or CCNP.

Take a look into things like SANS GIAC or the SSCP / CISSP for certifications that matter. If you're a router / switch monkey and out of work - well, get back into either system administration, programing, or database work.

If you know anything about SAP, PeopleSoft, or ERD in general - there are quite a few jobs still hiring.

I'm talking CCIE
 
TheProject said:


Matt, what drove you out of the field?


1. Kind of bored with NY city (20 years will do it), needed a change of scenery. The best paying tech jobs are in NYC.

2. Kinda bored with tech work in general. Wroiting a tech book is enough tech.

3. Excellent management opportunity at an impressive outsourcing company.

4. Some success with my own businesses.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:



1. Kind of bored with NY city (20 years will do it), needed a change of scenery. The best paying tech jobs are in NYC.

2. Kinda bored with tech work in general. Wroiting a tech book is enough tech.

3. Excellent management opportunity at an impressive outsourcing company.

4. Some success with my own businesses.

what business are you in?
 
Well . . .

I am in the DFW area and will graduate in a week and a half with a CIS degree and the pickings are very slim down here.

I have interviewed for several jobs and got second interviews to two of them----but the one that I was counting on ended with a supposed 'cut back' of desired new-hires.----Texas Utilities Corp.(big energy giant in TX)

Me and a few buddies are going to hit dallas hard this month and January and if nothing comes up ----- I will just take the Java and Dreamweaver classes that I am signed up for and keep working part-time.

I never thought the job market would be like this when I started---but its not a problem. I am confident that I will end up with the right job before long.
 
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